Of the rich, by the rich, for the rich
- by that I mean the privileged get name suppression a lot easier
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- by that I mean the privileged get name suppression a lot easier
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But you aren't for them either when you think of the things you're against with certain policies and the unintended consequences they bring on those who can't afford a house.
Not letting landlords claim interest on their mortgages is an expense that landlords then pass on their tenants... added rent equals less deposit for a house. And landlords without mortgages see that those with them have increased their rent so they take the opportunity to raise theirs also.
A CGT will reduce KiwiSaver accounts by 20-40% if in a growth fund because, at the moment, the capital gains on shares aren't taxed.... less money in KiwiSaver means a longer time saving the deposit for a house.
And heaven forbid, they're a nurse on $85,000 and you want to take away their small tax cut because a billionaire received the same $20 PW tax cut too.... the left commentators always ignore that!!!
See, that's the problem when ideology against certain members in society because they have more than someone else starts to get in the way of reality.... you may think that it's by the rich for the rich.... but it still has downstream consequences on those who "aren't the rich".... like those ideas you like/don't like mean people are even less likely to be able to afford a home.
And the right aren't any better.... they look the small number ripping off the welfare system and think all beneficiaries are..... just in the same way the left ignore the impact on the middle classes not having a tax cut would have because they don't think the ultra rich deserve it.
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Some on the left simply have no idea that you can't use the same tax cut money, if the government didn't give it, more than once. Actually, at just under $3 billion cost of tax cuts this year, it won't go very far through that list.
Think of just wanting a completly free public health system. Norway does that.... at the cost of $8,693 USD per person each year to have a completely free public healthcare system. By comparison, we spend $6,061 USD per person each year for our health system. That's a difference per person of $2,632 USD or $4,515 NZD each year. That works out at a cost of $24.1 billion each year based on a population of 5,340,000 NZer's. Or eight times the amount of the tax cuts.
Nor does the government (left or right) set power prices.... or dictate to overseas buyers of our food what prices they should pay. Oh, and the housing affordability index is apparently the lowest it's been since Helen Clark was in power.
But, misinformation like what you posted leads to a lot of likes I'm guessing.
The big surprise was the dovish outlook, more cuts to come & to a level that economists weren’t expecting.
Quite surprised when I read that.... we were considering extending the term on the mortgage out to 12 months but still might stick to 6 months when it's due for renewal in October if they're looking at more than one more interest drop.
I was expecting the RB would have been too spooked with Trump's tariffs, domestic inflation and the job numbers to do more than one drop.
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I work 7 days, 80 hours per week. The hard working, this is who we are.
Anyone that works like I do can have and deserved the good times
Hey so where you thinking for a holiday Wiz? Also which do you value more - the lower cost of debt to buy more investment properties or the higher capital gain (tax free no less) on your ever increasing property portfolio? Good times for those that own houses aye!!
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Thinking Thailand in November, but nothing confirmed!
I’m thankful for everything the hard working gets. My next project is doubling the size of my tourist business again next year with a new cafe and 800m indoor attraction. Lower interest helps make it all viable and I have been waiting 3 years for the right economic environment.
Capital gains are welcome but irrelevant. I dont sell so never have to pay it anyway.
The last 5 years have been terrible for house owners so about time things got better.
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To be honest I still think housing only has a moderate inflation outlook from here. OCR at around a 2.5% level (if it gets there) won’t stay for long.
Haven’t been to Thailand in years, last visit was Railay Beach which was pretty stunning but not a lot to do there other than drink.
Where's that again ??.
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I’ve only been to Bangkok years ago but keen to explore down Phuket area.
I really want to travel further afield but need to squeeze it in with minimal time away from work. Much further away and the travel hammers you for an extra day each side.
Just got back from a cruise with unlimited drinks package so have decided to stop drinking for a month
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I’m sure that will age well - I got back from Magic round stating I would abstain from alcohol for at least a month… didn’t make it past day 4I’ve only been to Bangkok years ago but keen to explore down Phuket area.
I really want to travel further afield but need to squeeze it in with minimal time away from work. Much further away and the travel hammers you for an extra day each side.
Just got back from a cruise with unlimited drinks package so have decided to stop drinking for a month
I work 7 days, 80 hours per week. The hard working, this is who we are.
Anyone that works like I do can have and deserved the good times
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Upon National entering Government, Simeon Brown was first appointed local government minister. Brown, when asked about the cost for households, did not strictly claim Local Water Done well would produce cheaper bills.
But pointing to the Three Waters set up cost and the funding for councils the Labour Government had planned, Brown said it “will be cheaper for ratepayers, because we won't be spending a billion dollars — like the last government did — with nothing to show for it”.
Local Water Done Well plans produced by councils show far show average annual water bills in Christchurch are expected to increase by $900 over the coming ten years, in Hamilton by $1700, in Dunedin by $1200, and in Selwyn by $1800.
Directly comparable average household price estimates were not available with Labour’s reforms, which forecast average household costs 30 years out instead of 10.
The Labour reforms would have created 10 public water entities, instead of the more than 40 that look to be emerging from the Local Water Done Well process.
Both reform policies sought to achieve cost efficiencies through creating water entities of scale, and the Department of Internal Affairs has written letters to six councils that have decided not to join regional groupings urging them to reconsider.
Watts on Wednesday said he was unsure whether more councils had been similarly contacted. Nor would he comment on the number of water entities to emerge, before the September 3 deadline.
“We just have to wait and see ... but I am expecting that there will be less water entities in the current number of councils that there are.”
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Gosh Mike. Heaven forbid we actually try and have an economy that runs on more than increasing house prices and bringing in low wage imported labour.
Deflection.... again, why do you like policies which will have the effect of reducing the chance people can enter the housing market?
Since Three Waters was based on the Scottish Water system, if it was so good, how many other countries have adopted it? The answer.... none!!! Although Malawi considered it and decided against it. Why? Because Scottish Water didn't lead to lower water bills but did lead to lower water quality. Three Waters.... by the gullible.... for the gullible.The Post
Upon National entering Government, Simeon Brown was first appointed local government minister. Brown, when asked about the cost for households, did not strictly claim Local Water Done well would produce cheaper bills.
But pointing to the Three Waters set up cost and the funding for councils the Labour Government had planned, Brown said it “will be cheaper for ratepayers, because we won't be spending a billion dollars — like the last government did — with nothing to show for it”.
Local Water Done Well plans produced by councils show far show average annual water bills in Christchurch are expected to increase by $900 over the coming ten years, in Hamilton by $1700, in Dunedin by $1200, and in Selwyn by $1800.
Directly comparable average household price estimates were not available with Labour’s reforms, which forecast average household costs 30 years out instead of 10.
The Labour reforms would have created 10 public water entities, instead of the more than 40 that look to be emerging from the Local Water Done Well process.
“I can categorically say that the councils, as a result of our reforms, will be financially sustainable,” Local Government Minister Simon Watts says. (file photo)BRUCE MACKAY / The Post
Both reform policies sought to achieve cost efficiencies through creating water entities of scale, and the Department of Internal Affairs has written letters to six councils that have decided not to join regional groupings urging them to reconsider.
Watts on Wednesday said he was unsure whether more councils had been similarly contacted. Nor would he comment on the number of water entities to emerge, before the September 3 deadline.
“We just have to wait and see ... but I am expecting that there will be less water entities in the current number of councils that there are.”
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Still looking like a fuck up here in Tauranga though
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Why? Do we not have enough water? Is it to expensive? Is it not clean?
My tap water seems ok
