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[wizard of Tauranga]

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Tell me why we’re in the doldrums so long?

Bad situation with low wages, rising costs and businesses not making money.

The problem obviously is compliance, regulations and red tape so looking forward to that being sorted out to make us competitive again.

 

[MaybeTop8]

Tell me why we’re in the doldrums so long?

Bad situation with low wages, rising costs and businesses not making money.

The problem obviously is compliance, regulations and red tape so looking forward to that being sorted out to make us competitive again.

Or the fact that National have prolonged this manufactured recession through their mass job cuts and cancelling infrastructure projects with no idea of the outcomes. Well, we know now.

 

[MaybeTop8]

Here's a bit more corruption.

University boss criticised for National Party 'present'

The head of the University of Waikato was intimately involved in National's policies.

www.nzherald.co.nz

 

[Mr. Brownstone]

Or the fact that National have prolonged this manufactured recession through their mass job cuts and cancelling infrastructure projects with no idea of the outcomes. Well, we know now.

So long as it’s unproductive former public servants exiting New Zealand then it’s a great outcome.

 

[Worried2Death]

So long as it’s unproductive former public servants exiting New Zealand then it’s a great outcome.

It's our kids, a whole generation of the best and brightest. As Luke said in the only Star Wars movie I ever saw, there's nothing for me here now in Tatooine.

 

[Mr. Brownstone]

It's our kids, a whole generation of the best and brightest.

Is the trend worse than what it’s been historically in that demographic (I don’t know btw)? Theres plenty of unemployed public servants leaving.

 

[Worried2Death]

Is the trend worse than what it’s been historically in that demographic (I don’t know btw)? Theres plenty of unemployed public servants leaving.

I think so mate, easy to hop the ditch for uni grads and tradies, most of them won't come back.

 

[MaybeTop8]

So long as it’s unproductive former public servants exiting New Zealand then it’s a great outcome.

How are you quantifying unproductive? And why single out public servants?

 

[Mr. Brownstone]

How are you quantifying unproductive? And why single out public servants?

Unproductive are people getting paid for roles that aren’t required, a good example of that in recent years has been the spike in those employed as public servants down in Wellington.

 

[Mr. Brownstone]

I think so mate, easy to hop the ditch for uni grads and tradies, most of them won't come back.

“I think so” doesn’t cut it - I want the evidence!! Look you’re prob right however I think it’s been an issue for decades, I’d be interested in seeing just how it currently stacks up vs previous periods.

 

[MaybeTop8]

Unproductive are people getting paid for roles that aren’t required, a good example of that in recent years has been the spike in those employed as public servants down in Wellington.

Proof thanks

 

[Worried2Death]

“I think so” doesn’t cut it - I want the evidence!! Look you’re prob right however I think it’s been an issue for decades, I’d be interested in seeing just how it currently stacks up vs previous periods.

Yeah just anecdotal really, 2/3 of my daughter's friends from primary schl are in Oz now 20 years later, sample of about 40 kids. She's heading there after graduating midwifery for double the $ and free accomodation, we can't compete. Wouldn't be surprised if that's representative of current trends but I don't know the official data compared to previous decades either. Seems a helluva lot more to me than the traditional OE.

 

[Mr. Brownstone]

Yeah just anecdotal really, 2/3 of my daughter's friends from primary schl are in Oz now 20 years later, sample of about 40 kids. She's heading there after graduating midwifery for double the $ and free accomodation, we can't compete. Wouldn't be surprised if that's representative of current trends but I don't know the official data compared to previous decades either. Seems a helluva lot more to me.

It’s tough having the lucky country as our neighbour.

 

[Worried2Death]

How are you quantifying unproductive? And why single out public servants?

I think he's saying those are the ones who increase the IQ of both countries, so it's no loss.

 

[Mr. Brownstone]

Proof thanks

At a macro level - those employed as public servants compounded at 4.9% p.a. across Labours 2 term period. Interestingly hasn’t fallen under the current government however a lot of restructuring supposedly.

At a micro level - NZ airport regulatory review process by the Commerce Commission is a total shambles. Conclusions delivered 2-3 years too late, thousands of unnecessary pages of analysis littered with mistakes & back peddling that fail to comprehend the key issues within the sector & ultimately make the wrong recommendations to the detriment of our tourism industry.

 

[MaybeTop8]

I think he's saying those are the ones who increase the IQ of both countries, so it's no loss.

Pretty sure I know what he's saying and what bias is behind it...

 

[Worried2Death]

Pretty sure I know what he's saying and what bias is behind it...

His talking points are straight from Atlas HQ, we're onto him. He's David Seymour isn't he, the jig's up Dave.

 

[MaybeTop8]

At a macro level - those employed as public servants compounded at 4.9% p.a. across Labours 2 term period. Interestingly hasn’t fallen under the current government however a lot of restructuring supposedly.

At a micro level - NZ airport regulatory review process by the Commerce Commission is a total shambles. Conclusions delivered 2-3 years too late, thousands of unnecessary pages of analysis littered with mistakes & back peddling that fail to comprehend the key issues within the sector & ultimately make the wrong recommendations to the detriment of our tourism industry.

Generalising hate against an easy target of the right is fairly lame though. Finding root cause of your micro complaint might be a better start. After all, neoliberalism has been in charge for 50 years

 

[Mr. Brownstone]

Generalising hate against an easy target of the right is fairly lame though. Finding root cause of your micro complaint might be a better start. After all, neoliberalism has been in charge for 50 years

Generalising hate? What on earth are you on about?

 

[Mr. Brownstone]

His talking points are straight from Atlas HQ, we're onto him. He's David Seymour isn't he, the jig's up Dave.

That is so fucking insulting!