Politics 🗳️ NZ Politics

[MaybeTop8]

Returns for nz? You might want to ask Taranaki about that.
Regardless, the consent being requested that I mentioned isn't tiddlywinks & is worth billions apparently. Very little of which will see the light of day for the average kiwi...except perhaps sinkholes like in Waihi, pea? (,Perhaps?)
Their big sell is they'll hardly be seen, not much impact on the whenua te mea te mea. But the guts of it is they will dig in
underground from miles away
and mine many hectares
underground. Out of site, out of
mind...
I'll try to find the link and post it.

Nz will get fuck all except for environmental destruction, and a few will get exceedingly rich

 

[John Nick]

Nz will get fuck all except for environmental destruction, and a few will get exceedingly rich

And always overseas companies

 

[MaybeTop8]

Speaks for itself. From Bernard Hickey's roundup

The National-ACT-NZ First Coalition Government won last year’s election with a pledge to ‘get things done’ and ‘get New Zealand back on track,’ while also reducing inflation in living costs. But the exact opposite has happened because it:

• abrupt cancelled and suspended billions worth of transport and school building projects;
• urgently repealed water industry and RMA reforms without replacements;
• loudly-proclaimed it would slash Government spending and public service jobs to pay for income tax reductions, mostly for rental property investors; and,
• cut funding for councils and increased Government fees and charges, actually pushing up domestic services inflation and keeping mortgage rates high until well into 2025. (See details, charts etc below the paywall fold)

For example, just this morning:

• it emerged house-building and infrastructure industry leaders begged Infrastructure, Housing and RMA Reform Minister Chris Bishop last month for project-pipeline certainty and warned of a 2009/10-style exodus of skilled staff overseas because of the abrupt funding and reform freezes; (See full letter below the paywall fold)
• doctors are warning parts of the health system, including cancer services in the middle of the North Island and radiology services, are near collapse because of intensifying funding restrictions after decades of sinking-lid policies on real per-capita public health funding;
• it emerged the 51%-state-owned Air New Zealand, which the Government has pushed for more dividends and allowed to operate a domestic monopoly in the regions, has quietly doubled its fees for overweight and oversized baggage domestically and hiked domestic baggage fees around 30% in recent days; and,
• despite warnings of a looming shortage of almost 1,000 doctors, National is being blocked from building a new medical school by its coalition partner ACT.

 

[Noitall]

Speaks for itself. From Bernard Hickey's roundup

The National-ACT-NZ First Coalition Government won last year’s election with a pledge to ‘get things done’ and ‘get New Zealand back on track,’ while also reducing inflation in living costs. But the exact opposite has happened because it:

• abrupt cancelled and suspended billions worth of transport and school building projects;
• urgently repealed water industry and RMA reforms without replacements;
• loudly-proclaimed it would slash Government spending and public service jobs to pay for income tax reductions, mostly for rental property investors; and,
• cut funding for councils and increased Government fees and charges, actually pushing up domestic services inflation and keeping mortgage rates high until well into 2025. (See details, charts etc below the paywall fold)

For example, just this morning:

• it emerged house-building and infrastructure industry leaders begged Infrastructure, Housing and RMA Reform Minister Chris Bishop last month for project-pipeline certainty and warned of a 2009/10-style exodus of skilled staff overseas because of the abrupt funding and reform freezes; (See full letter below the paywall fold)
• doctors are warning parts of the health system, including cancer services in the middle of the North Island and radiology services, are near collapse because of intensifying funding restrictions after decades of sinking-lid policies on real per-capita public health funding;
• it emerged the 51%-state-owned Air New Zealand, which the Government has pushed for more dividends and allowed to operate a domestic monopoly in the regions, has quietly doubled its fees for overweight and oversized baggage domestically and hiked domestic baggage fees around 30% in recent days; and,
• despite warnings of a looming shortage of almost 1,000 doctors, National is being blocked from building a new medical school by its coalition partner ACT.

Sounding a bit like some of the cancer treatments they promised in the election aren’t going to be delivered either

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

Speaks for itself. From Bernard Hickey's roundup

The National-ACT-NZ First Coalition Government won last year’s election with a pledge to ‘get things done’ and ‘get New Zealand back on track,’ while also reducing inflation in living costs. But the exact opposite has happened because it:

• abrupt cancelled and suspended billions worth of transport and school building projects;
• urgently repealed water industry and RMA reforms without replacements;
• loudly-proclaimed it would slash Government spending and public service jobs to pay for income tax reductions, mostly for rental property investors; and,
• cut funding for councils and increased Government fees and charges, actually pushing up domestic services inflation and keeping mortgage rates high until well into 2025. (See details, charts etc below the paywall fold)

For example, just this morning:

• it emerged house-building and infrastructure industry leaders begged Infrastructure, Housing and RMA Reform Minister Chris Bishop last month for project-pipeline certainty and warned of a 2009/10-style exodus of skilled staff overseas because of the abrupt funding and reform freezes; (See full letter below the paywall fold)
• doctors are warning parts of the health system, including cancer services in the middle of the North Island and radiology services, are near collapse because of intensifying funding restrictions after decades of sinking-lid policies on real per-capita public health funding;
• it emerged the 51%-state-owned Air New Zealand, which the Government has pushed for more dividends and allowed to operate a domestic monopoly in the regions, has quietly doubled its fees for overweight and oversized baggage domestically and hiked domestic baggage fees around 30% in recent days; and,
• despite warnings of a looming shortage of almost 1,000 doctors, National is being blocked from building a new medical school by its coalition partner ACT.

Wait until the budget and we will see what the govt actually plans.

We could make a list of what they have done as well. They have been very busy in just 6 months and haven’t had their own budget yet.

 

[MaybeTop8]

Wait until the budget and we will see what the govt actually plans.

We could make a list of what they have done as well. They have been very busy in just 6 months and haven’t had their own budget yet.

Very busy making plans to sell off the country and rolling us back to the 1950s.

And yes they have had their own budget - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_... generated NZ$7.5 billion,Fund (NZ$2 billion).

And it's been 7 months.

 

[Noitall]

Luxon says planned Budget Day strike 'illegal', suggests 'that's what we have weekends for'

Find out where protests are taking place.

www.newshub.co.nz

Waving a red rag at a bull here

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

Very busy making plans to sell off the country and rolling us back to the 1950s.

What have they sold off?

And by 1950’s do you mean we manufacture everything in Nz, trade tariffs, heavy unions, etc? I don’t see that happening from National but whatever…

And that budget was a ‘mini’. The real one with tax cuts, setting out department budgets and budgeting election pledges is coming!

And 7 months is insignificant for sorting out the country. Come back to me 6 months before the election and we will be able to seriously evaluate it.

 

[marv.]

Come back to me 6 months before the election and we will be able to seriously evaluate it.

i think that’s probably pretty fair.

is there any metric where the country is in worse shape right now than when this government took office?
ones that aren’t a result of a longer term than that slide?

genuine question, not being a dick.

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

i think that’s probably pretty fair.

is there any metric where the country is in worse shape right now than when this government took office?
ones that aren’t a result of a longer term than that slide?

genuine question, not being a dick.

Genuine answer. We’re still in the post covid whirlwind affecting the economy, inflation, crime, etc partly beyond Labour and Nationals control.

Policies take years to have an effect. Labour was handed a covid lemon; it’s been passed on to National at our worst time and even if National does nothing it will be smoother by next election no matter. All part of a cycle.

But policies do take effect over the long term. We saw Labours NZ despite the big picture global effects and we will see by the next election Nationals NZ and their vision.

 

[MaybeTop8]

i think that’s probably pretty fair.

is there any metric where the country is in worse shape right now than when this government took office?
ones that aren’t a result of a longer term than that slide?

genuine question, not being a dick.

Destructive cuts to vital services to finance a tax cut we can't afford and don't need for the rich.

 

[marv.]

Destructive cuts to vital services to finance a tax cut we can't afford and don't need for the rich.

as i said though, right now what metrics are worse?

and again, genuine question.
i’ve been pretty wrapped up with two fairly significant surgeries over the last seven weeks, so sure to have missed something.

 

[marv.]

Genuine answer. We’re still in the post covid whirlwind affecting the economy, inflation, crime, etc partly beyond Labour and Nationals control.

Policies take years to have an effect. Labour was handed a covid lemon; it’s been passed on to National at our worst time and even if National does nothing it will be smoother by next election no matter. All part of a cycle.

But policies do take effect over the long term. We saw Labours NZ despite the big picture global effects and we will see by the next election Nationals NZ and their vision.

agreed!

 

[Sledge]

Very busy making plans to sell off the country and rolling us back to the 1950s.

And yes they have had their own budget - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_New_Zealand_mini-budget#:~:text=The 2023 New Zealand mini-budget generated NZ$7.5 billion,Fund (NZ$2 billion).

And it's been 7 months.

Come on mate, they could burn NZ down and do a better job than Labour did over the last 3 years.

 

[Noitall]

Come on mate, they could burn NZ down and do a better job than Labour did over the last 3 years.

Fuck you have to be low to target the areas this government is and break the promises they are at present. The books were open for them to set out what they could do to set the policy to appeal to voters and experts said right from the get go that the numbers didn’t stack up. That was disputed by the government, though almost conceding by the election that they were bullshitting by their failure to provide answers. Right from their early days in office they’ve set out and done unpopular things like the whole smoking debacle, but to go out and scrap first home buyers grants and not fulfil election promises to cancer patients is low even by a politicians standards. As a taxpayer, these are the areas I’d be most happy to see my money spent

 

[Rizzah]

Stuff

www.newshub.co.nz

$500,000 for a three person review into KO. All on Bill English's terms. All arranged via a text message. Nothing to see here.

 

[dean]

Stuff

www.newshub.co.nz

$500,000 for a three person review into KO. All on Bill English's terms. All arranged via a text message. Nothing to see here.

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It's not the first time Bishop has been tx ting inappropriately.

 

[miket12]

It's not the first time Bishop has been tx ting inappropriately.

Is Bishop now grooming English?

 

[Rizzah]

Why do these clowns not follow proper procedure? It completely undermines everything they do, they may as well throw the KO review out. Bill English laughs all the way to the bank.

 

[miket12]

Why do these clowns not follow proper procedure? It completely undermines everything they do, they may as well throw the KO review out. Bill English laughs all the way to the bank.

IMO, this report had the same credibility as Cullen's Working Tax Group and Parker's review into the assets of NZ's richest people.... the findings and recommendations were decided before the first meetings took place. All they were looking for was the "evidence and data" to back up their positions.