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[Worried2Death]

Less opinion, more news might stop viewers fleeing…. Go woke go broke!

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Consumers have ditched legacy media for Internet and apps, nothing to do with GO WORKE GO BORKE

 

[MaybeTop8]

Less opinion, more news might stop viewers fleeing…. Go woke go broke!

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Geez you really say some idiotic things

Any thoughts on the corruption by big tobacco mentioned earlier?

 

[MaybeTop8]

Geez you really say some idiotic things

Any thoughts on the corruption by big tobacco mentioned earlier?

Speaking of which - the pm's sister in law works for British American Tobacco and a tobacco lobbyist was a guest at the swearing in ceremony for ministers

Stuff

www.stuff.co.nz

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

Consumers have ditched legacy media for Internet and apps, nothing to with GO WOK GO BORKE

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Or maybe in a year when Labours polling halved, the hard left media went down with them… people decided they weren’t going to be sheep anymore

You will note Newstalk ZB has performed strongly with revenue only down by 1% while TVNZ crashes and burns… And that’s because you include digitally streamed in the internet age

However: ‘while ZB thrives, the (hard left) RNZ total audience slide has been notable over the past three years. In 2020, it topped all the commercial stations with 703,000 weekly listeners in 2023 it had 532,400 in 5th place in the market.’ That’s like the Panthers going to wooden spooners over 3 years!

Keep that tinfoil hat over your eyes so you can denying a swing away from the left

 

[Noitall]

Speaking of which - the pm's sister in law works for British American Tobacco and a tobacco lobbyist was a guest at the swearing in ceremony for ministers

Stuff

www.stuff.co.nz

Keeps getting murkier by the day.

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

Keeps getting murkier by the day.

I don’t know why all the fuss. Don’t we want a doctor like Reti in charge of health? A school principle like Tinetti in charge of education? A shoplifter in charge of justice…

You know, real world experience.

People with links to the industry would be much better placed to know it inside and out rather than non smoking do gooders that are talking from ideology without a clue how it all really works and trying to tell people what to do



Incoming

 

[Rick O’Shay]

Gotta 'fess up guys about a possible conflict of interest I have on this thread and therefore can't divulge too much.

I still enjoy the odd fag but have no personal relationship with anyone from BAT nor does my wife's second cousins' son who works in the local dairy (I think, but I will grill him for you guys to ensure balance)

Surprised no one has delved into the Alcohol Lobby yet. Now there's a big fish.

As an aside, a big shout out to posters on the politics thread. You guys keep me entertained for hours and it's my first go to on the forum every day.

It's often like the Marx bros, the 3 stooges and Charlie Chaplain all at the same time.

I'm worried it will slow down once the season starts so please don't forget your avid followers.

 

[Noitall]

I don’t know why all the fuss. Don’t we want a doctor like Reti in charge of health? A school principle like Tinetti in charge of education? A shoplifter in charge of justice…

You know, real world experience.

People with links to the industry would be much better placed to know it inside and out rather than non smoking do gooders that are talking from ideology without a clue how it all really works and trying to tell people what to do



Incoming

If it’s such a nothing to see here situation, what stopped whichever party is driving this to make their intentions clear before the election? National was clear of many of the things they they would repeal when getting into office, but nothing on abolishing the smoke free 2025 proposal or any of the other initiatives dropped?

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

If it’s such a nothing to see here situation, what stopped whichever party is driving this to make their intentions clear before the election? National was clear of many of the things they they would repeal when getting into office, but nothing on abolishing the smoke free 2025 proposal or any of the other initiatives dropped?

Maybe because it’s not there policy but MMP makes you swallow dead rats.

There’s a long standing convention you don’t get into MP’s families. Should we open the floodgates and start on the partners of Labour MP’s?

Pretty low ball smear campaign targeting Luxon for a NZ first policy. You can tell the left are scared of Luxon to attack so hard.

 

[Noitall]

Surprised no one has delved into the Alcohol Lobby yet. Now there's a big fish.

Likely would if alcohol was to be slowly phased out from next year or the alcohol levels decreased as was proposed for cigarettes. That would never happen though with so many politicians likely sucking on wine or craft beer.

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

Likely would if alcohol was to be slowly phased out from next year or the alcohol levels decreased as was proposed for cigarettes. That would never happen though with so many politicians likely sucking on wine or craft beer.

Obesity kills way more than smoking and alcohol combined.

Ronald McDonald is a smart operator. They should investigate Grant Robertson and Gerry Brownlee’s lifetime membership donations. I note Trumps a big user as well.

Devious multinationals.

 

[MaybeTop8]

Or maybe in a year when Labours polling halved, the hard left media went down with them… people decided they weren’t going to be sheep anymore

You will note Newstalk ZB has performed strongly with revenue only down by 1% while TVNZ crashes and burns… And that’s because you include digitally streamed in the internet age

However: ‘while ZB thrives, the (hard left) RNZ total audience slide has been notable over the past three years. In 2020, it topped all the commercial stations with 703,000 weekly listeners in 2023 it had 532,400 in 5th place in the market.’ That’s like the Panthers going to wooden spooners over 3 years!

Keep that tinfoil hat over your eyes so you can denying a swing away from the left

Ah ok. Sheep. Woke. You've gone full conspiracy antivax. Now I see where you're coming from.

 

[defensivebomb]

Speaking of which - the pm's sister in law works for British American Tobacco and a tobacco lobbyist was a guest at the swearing in ceremony for ministers

Stuff

www.stuff.co.nz

and John Tamihere's brother murdered a couple of backpackers

 

[MaybeTop8]

and John Tamihere's brother murdered a couple of backpackers

Hey if you're not interested in corruption of our government by big tobacco that's up to you

 

[Noitall]

Maybe because it’s not there policy but MMP makes you swallow dead rats.

There’s a long standing convention you don’t get into MP’s families. Should we open the floodgates and start on the partners of Labour MP’s?

Pretty low ball smear campaign targeting Luxon for a NZ first policy. You can tell the left are scared of Luxon to attack so hard.

I think the many are concerned about luxon, but more around how he’s going to take this country backwards socially, seymour also. MPs families? Of course they must be transparent, Judith collins wouldn’t have lost her portfolios under a key government otherwise. Luxon finding out first hand what winston brings to the table, chaos for his own advantage. Luxon’s swallowed so many dead rats his arse must be sore from worms, reinstating live export shipments is another shocker.

 

[defensivebomb]

Hey if you're not interested in corruption of our government by big tobacco that's up to you

True. I was being deliberately facetious. As in, you can’t pick your family.

My comment probably doesn't come out well on a typed forum..

 

[MaybeTop8]

True. I was being deliberately facetious. As in, you can’t pick your family.

My comment probably doesn't come out well on a typed forum..

and my post should have quoted my original post from a few pages back which ties much more information together on this whole scandal. Will remember that for context next time.

 

[Noitall]

Obesity kills way more than smoking and alcohol combined.

Ronald McDonald is a smart operator. They should investigate Grant Robertson and Gerry Brownlee’s lifetime membership donations. I note Trumps a big user as well.

Devious multinationals.

Obesity is often because portions aren’t controlled. If food had glue and tar as ingredients, there likely would be no obesity.

 

[miket12]

I think the many are concerned about luxon, but more around how he’s going to take this country backwards socially, seymour also. MPs families? Of course they must be transparent, Judith collins wouldn’t have lost her portfolios under a key government otherwise. Luxon finding out first hand what winston brings to the table, chaos for his own advantage. Luxon’s swallowed so many dead rats his arse must be sore from worms, reinstating live export shipments is another shocker.

Remember all the theories about John Key’s government getting cozy with the CCP because Crusher’s husband is a Chinese Samoan….. and now China is “disappointed” that Collins and Winnie are talking about closer defense ties with Australia. Now, we should be worried because of family links to tobacco companies.

Just shows why I could never enter politics….people would think I was a plant for American Big Business because my wife has worked for the NZ division of a Dallas based fortune 100 company for over 30 years….. even though she‘s been working for them for longer than we’ve been married.

 

[sup42]

Remember all the theories about John Key’s government getting cozy with the CCP because Crusher’s husband is a Chinese Samoan….. and now China is “disappointed” that Collins and Winnie are talking about closer defense ties with Australia. Now, we should be worried because of family links to tobacco companies.

Just shows why I could never enter politics….people would think I was a plant for American Big Business because my wife has worked for the NZ division of a Dallas based fortune 100 company for over 30 years….. even though she‘s been working for them for longer than we’ve been married.

I hope you remind your good lady daily that you gave up the Prime Ministers chair for her Yankee friends eh Mike.

Maybe not. Maybe scrap that idea.

Abort! Abort!