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[Noitall]

I don’t believe God would be an egomaniac in requiring such belief

He or she’s cruel with what happens in the world if they’re legit.

 

[miket12]

I find it grotesque that churches expect tithing, your time should be the most valuable you can give them with only a limited supply.

The thing is churches SHOULDN‘T expect their congregations to give 10% of the income (what a tithe is)….. tithing is only mentioned four times in the New Testament and NONE of those are an instruction or command for Christians. The insructions for Christians is to giving willing and as they can afford too. Church leaders who demand their congregations pay more than they can afford are totally off the mark!!!!

Where tithing does occur is in the Old Testament as an instruction to the Jews. Tithing was used to support one of the 12 Tribes where all the priests came from, to provide money for running the temple and synagogues and was used as their form of social welfare.

 

[Inruin]

Is it time to move these posts to a religious discussion thread?

Way to derail a thread

 

[Noitall]

The thing is churches SHOULDN‘T expect their congregations to give 10% of the income (what a tithe is)….. tithing is only mentioned four times in the New Testament and NONE of those are an instruction or command for Christians. The insructions for Christians is to giving willing and as they can afford too. Church leaders who demand their congregations pay more than they can afford are totally off the mark!!!!

Where tithing does occur is in the Old Testament as an instruction to the Jews. Tithing was used to support one of the 12 Tribes where all the priests came from, to provide money for running the temple and synagogues and was used as their form of social welfare.

Such as most things it’s been abused though. And being a charitable organisation doesn’t sit right with me for the ones mentioned that demand a percentage. I’ve been fascinated in my time in various pacific islands over the years and the pedestal that the church is put on but I respect it as it’s their choice. The explanation you provided around the form of social welfare you mentioned perhaps still exists but has been abused and on such a scale by some that they should be contributing to society in a financial form. When you consider that ambulance and the like are charitable organisations, these would be great areas where some funding could be committed?

 

[Noitall]

Is it time to move these posts to a religious discussion thread?

Way to derail a thread

Don’t be like that, I’d love to hear about the special chap in your life.

 

[Inruin]

Don’t be like that, I’d love to hear about the special chap in your life.

How very inclusive and nonjudgmental of you. I expected nothing less.

 

[Noitall]

How very inclusive and nonjudgmental of you. I expected nothing less.

Thought just in case Chris luxon reads. Go the Warriors

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

Don’t be like that, I’d love to hear about the special chap in your life.

That’s sexist… your claiming God is a he!

Get with the times

 

[Noitall]

That’s sexist… your claiming God is a he!

Get with the times

Put them behind the wheel and we’ll find out.
What’s that, sexism or stereotyping?

 

[Worried2Death]

Put them behind the wheel and we’ll find out.
What’s that, sexism or stereotyping?

I'm starting to see why a lot of us are divorced

 

[Worried2Death]

That was a question by me. Is it a prerequisite? Or is living a good life consistent with there being one what is required. If you are a good man you make it in. If not...

The theory isn't about whether you believe or not. Obviously if you do and live a life consistent with that then you don't need it. The theory was for a rational man considering what the potential outcomes could be.

I thought he's arguing for striving to actually believe in god rather than just obeying Christian rules and doctrines, a spiritual leap of faith rather than a bet at the TAB.
Is it a prerequisite? "I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me" (John 14:6). Sounds pretty exclusive.

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

I'm starting to see why a lot of us are divorced

It’s about picking the right woman (or man in this day and age)

She’s got to know from the start she’s an inferior driver, belongs in the kitchen, does all the housework and childcare and know she is always going to be second in the relationship behind the Warriors.

Get it sorted from the start and you’ve got a keeper!

 

[Noitall]

It’s about picking the right woman (or man in this day and age)

She’s got to know from the start she’s an inferior driver, belongs in the kitchen, does all the housework and childcare and know she is always going to be second in the relationship behind the Warriors.

Get it sorted from the start and you’ve got a keeper!

Is this your mrs? And has she got a sister?

 

[Worried2Death]

Is this your mrs? And has she got a sister?

It's new zealand, her sister's probably your cousin

 

[Inruin]

I thought he's arguing for striving to actually believe in god rather than just obeying Christian rules and doctrines, a spiritual leap of faith rather than a bet at the TAB.
Is it a prerequisite? "I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me" (John 14:6). Sounds pretty exclusive.

Not how I read it but understand what you are saying. The theory does appear to be more like an insurance policy, rather than a bet, with very little downside if there isn't a god, heaven, hell versus the risk/rewards if there are.

Anything with conditions of entry are exclusive aren't they?

 

[Noitall]

It's new zealand, her sister's probably your cousin

That’s an idea for another thread, forum lineage. Then we can have forum bank numbers

 

[Worried2Death]

Not how I read it but understand what you are saying. The theory does appear to be more like an insurance policy, rather than a bet, with very little downside if there isn't a god, heaven, hell versus the risk/rewards if there are.

Anything with conditions of entry are exclusive aren't they?

Yep pretty much, what about you, do you see a creator or intelligent designer of the universe?

 

[Evil_Mush]

Currently single for nearly two years, never married, but did have a delightful evening with a lovely French Canadian single mum the other evening, so will see what happens there

#oohlala

 

[Noitall]

What about you inruin, how long you been married?

 

[Worried2Death]

Currently single for nearly two years, never married, but did have a delightful evening with a lovely French Canadian single mum the other evening, so will see what happens there

#oohlala

Sounds like one of those nights there's definitely a god, goodluck bro