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You are correct but isn't the debate about anthropogenic versus nature?
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The science is settled.
Beg to differ but science is never settled, in anything.
It's only ever set for the timeframe in which the research is studied and who is studying. There may be a change tomorrow, that's how science evolves.
The IPCC for example has readjusted their position many times, their stance on CH4 as an example.
Sure, well differed, anthropogenic climate change is accelerating and will only get worse Rick.
That is fact. Independent of you and I.
It's inconvenient for one side of politics, and for profits, but it's happening regardless
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More blatant misinformation
New Zealand National Party officially believes in and accepts the scientific consensus that climate change is real, human-induced, and poses significant risks to the country
As a party, they are committed to the 2050 net-zero emissions target and international obligations under the Paris Agreement.
The right generally prefers to adapt and live with changes whereas the left prefer scaremongering, claiming it as their issue only and using punitive measures.
Budget 2024 supports practical climate action | National Party
Responsible and effective climate related initiatives that support New Zealand to reduce emissions, and adapt to the future effects of climate change are a priority, Climate
www.national.org.nz
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You rail against the machine yet follow a site run by the Koch Bros. LMFAO
Know your enemy. How much of CMD donations are secret/anonymous
We all know they are the good type of billionaires.
What's the CMD connection to Koch bros Rick?
Sure, it was a quick google at work, as I've no doubt the site you provided and endorse is pretty shonky Rick.
Can you provide the information you've found where you link to the Koch Bros?
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Under here they list their donation sources:
The link is yourself. You have hundreds of posts here about corruption and shonky deals amongst the rich and famous. CMD is just another group funded by rich listers. Maybe they are rich listers with a cause, maybe not.
Soros and Schwab are among their big donors so I guess they are totally influence free.
This is the right wing version of CMD for balance purposes only
https://www.thecentersquare.com/
As you have described often on here, everybody wants something and one thing is for certain that "Dark Money" sits on both sides of the fence
CMD went after the Koch Bros so I would suggest if you were in their position it would make sense to drop some money and maybe personnel in there for a rainy day. Not all of CMD's donors are published.
And yes, STT has some claims that are beyond the pale but there are also a few good point in there.
I just don't think wind and solar on a grand scale is the answer (ok for a back yard project), they are an environmental blight and they have a short shelf life and require an enormous amount of fossil fuels to build and run. Plus they are not particularly recyclable and cannot operate without serious subsidies
I'm more of a hydro, geothermal (especially hot rock) and nuclear advocate
Plus, No LNG for Taranaki
Yeah they're so committed they're investing a billion in lpg.More blatant misinformation
New Zealand National Party officially believes in and accepts the scientific consensus that climate change is real, human-induced, and poses significant risks to the country
As a party, they are committed to the 2050 net-zero emissions target and international obligations under the Paris Agreement.
The right generally prefers to adapt and live with changes whereas the left prefer scaremongering, claiming it as their issue only and using punitive measures.
Budget 2024 supports practical climate action | National Party
Responsible and effective climate related initiatives that support New Zealand to reduce emissions, and adapt to the future effects of climate change are a priority, Climate
The link is yourself. You have hundreds of posts here about corruption and shonky deals amongst the rich and famous. CMD is just another group funded by rich listers. Maybe they are rich listers with a cause, maybe not.
Soros and Schwab are among their big donors so I guess they are totally influence free.
This is the right wing version of CMD for balance purposes only
https://www.thecentersquare.com/
As you have described often on here, everybody wants something and one thing is for certain that "Dark Money" sits on both sides of the fence
CMD went after the Koch Bros so I would suggest if you were in their position it would make sense to drop some money and maybe personnel in there for a rainy day. Not all of CMD's donors are published.
And yes, STT has some claims that are beyond the pale but there are also a few good point in there.
I just don't think wind and solar on a grand scale is the answer (ok for a back yard project), they are an environmental blight and they have a short shelf life and require an enormous amount of fossil fuels to build and run. Plus they are not particularly recyclable and cannot operate without serious subsidies
I'm more of a hydro, geothermal (especially hot rock) and nuclear advocate
Plus, No LNG for Taranaki
Here's what you replied:
When asked where it said the site above was run by the Koch bros, as you've alleged, you've said the link is myself.
So you can't provide the proof to back up what you've stated as fact.
Then follows.....well, not much, seems more like a rant up until the wind and solar bit.
Anyways, I'll leave it there.
As one who always answers the questions asked of him you are right, lets leave it there
Here's an interesting listen on the Gas/Electricity issues we face. Bernard Hickey talking to an old colleague of mine Larry Blair.
newzealandenergy.substack.com
Live with Bernard Hickey and Larry Blair
A recording from New Zealand Energy and Bernard Hickey's live video
newzealandenergy.substack.com