Social πŸŽ A Weighty Issue

It’s easy to get into generalisations about the western diet, just as it is with asian ones. Obesity is a major phenomenon in the western world, but if you go back a few decades, I don’t think it existed as an issue. But then it started to appear and in the last 10/20/30 years, exploded. What happened? MacDonald’s and all the others happened. There’s been a massive proliferation of fast food outlets. In the supermarkets, ready meals happened, "just microwave and enjoy". Canola happened. Our bodies have real problems with it, but never mind about that, because vast quantities are used in food production. It belongs in the bin, imo.

My parents were born in 1909 and 1913. No fast food then, main meals always cooked. As often as possible everyone was served up garden grown veggies.

There's an autobiography, 'The last fighting tommy', by the man who was the very last surviving British soldier of WWI. His folk had a sizeable garden, and apart from red meat, more or less everything they ate came from that garden. He lived to the grand age of 111.

For me - that’s the way to go. Somehow or other, we have to get back to that simplistic, slower paced way of life.

When I talk about the Western diet I am specifically referring to big food practices which the American food industry took from the playbook of Big tobacco and the Chemical industrial giants like Dupont which basically say's intentionally kill people if there is profit in it then lie about it.

I am not a conspiracy theorist, what I am talking about is the use of sugar and other additives like known carcinogens to addict people to toxic substances that kill you.

The worst thing about big food is that they drive the leading cause of mortality in the world, and the U.S. politic is in on it.

Whereas when the Surgeon general turned on Big Tobacco and issued health warnings, we have known dangerous foods with labels on promoting them as health foods....and the worst of it is that they target children the hardest.

Europeans as we all know in regions like the Mediterranean are some of the longest lived people and in good health in the world.

The thing about the good old days and eating your own veges is that you had to go out and dig, and garden for hours in the day which in of itself is arguably even better for you than the food you harvest.

Just on Mediterranean food, even though we have known that Extra Virgin olive oil is good for you for a long time, in recent times it has become even more apparent that it could be the best food there is if you are going to change one thing in your diet (it is the one expensive food I buy and do not skip).

I try to have two tablespoons of EVOO daily (on my bread in a the form of a Salsa made with super hot chilies for their metabolic boosting properties layered over Greek Yogurt....yes another Mediterranean super food and another probiotic Fermented food).

People in my grandparents time still had a lot of heart disease issues because of the lack of knowledge around saturated fats from the traditional meat and three veg diets (not demonizing any of those foods, rather we all know it is about how you cook it and how often you eat it).
 
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Cripes! Sorry to hear that, mate. From what you’re saying, it was your eating etc habits *before* you went carnivore that led to the BP issues? Did I read that right?

Nah all good mate

Carnivore was great for a year. Not sure why it went to custard after. I got complacent. Thought I was superman and got humbled. Binge eating on junk started happening more times than it should have. Got on the booze too. Then not long after started getting chest tightness. Couldn’t run more than 10mins on the threadmill without feeling my chest was going to explode. Regular dizzy spells. I bought a BP monitor. Best thing I did. Noticed my BP would spike to 140/120 regularly. Cardiologist didn’t hesitate to get me on the pills and the rest is history….

All I need to sort out now is my uric acid (gout) and Creatine (kidney) levels and I might live to 100!πŸ’― πŸ˜‚
 
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Nah all good mate

Carnivore was great for a year. Not sure why it went to custard after. I got complacent. Thought I was superman and got humbled. Binge eating on junk started happening more times than it should have. Got on the booze too. Then not long after started getting chest tightness. Couldn’t run more than 10mins on the threadmill without feeling my chest was going to explode. Regular dizzy spells. I bought a BP monitor. Best thing I did. Noticed my BP would spike to 140/120 regularly. Cardiologist didn’t hesitate to get me on the pills and the rest is history….

All I need to sort out now is my uric acid (gout) and Creatine (kidney) levels and I might live to 100!πŸ’― πŸ˜‚
Had similar probs mate.Doc put me on gout tablets .One every day & I can eat anything now.
Mussels prawns etc. not a twinge.Apparently it builds up a residual barrier .Never had a problem since
 
Yes it is more complex than eat less move more. But calories in calories out is what is. No matter what any low carb or fasting zealot says those are just tools to get you in a calorie deficient. They have not discovered some new secret.

Calories in and calories out are dependent variables. If you exercise more for example you will need more fuel which increases the calories in part of the equation. Hence you need to balance it out on the calories out side again this can mean more exercise, more non exercise related activity.

Calories out also takes into account you basal metabolic rate (BMR), non exercise activity, thermic effect of food (TEF). You can also increase you protein or fibre intake to help adjust the calories out portion.

Should you starve yourself no. You shouldn't go on an extreme caloric restriction. I had a flatmate who went to either Jenny Craig or Weight Watchers from memory they were just concentrating on the calories not the other side of the equation.

Also people confuse counting calories and being in a calorie deficit they are not the same.

It is not surprising your nutritionist has you eating more and not feeling full. If you change the type of foods and the density of the calories within the foods you will be able to change the amount of food you can eat. If I listed the food I was eating in a day to lose weight it would shock most people.
Sorry bro for forgetting I quoted this excellent post and answered another.

You are talking about the fundamental laws of physics as they pertain to thermodynamics hey, and It is funny when people think you can alter the mechanisms of the universe with a smoothie.

I would love to see that shocking daily meal schedule you eat (you show me yours I'll show you mine jks).
 
Sorry bro for forgetting I quoted this excellent post and answered another.

You are talking about the fundamental laws of physics as they pertain to thermodynamics hey, and It is funny when people think you can alter the mechanisms of the universe with a smoothie.

I would love to see that shocking daily meal schedule you eat (you show me yours I'll show you mine jks).
I read this while I was eating Burger King. :LOL:

Been working off-site and needed something. Often do without lunch.

My diet hasn't been as disciplined as in the past. Trying to balance a young family with limited time. I'm lucky as I've managed to get to the point I don't get full anymore. Often, just stop eating, even breakfast, which is often light, I just stop.

My weight is still under control. Summer is usually good for me as I skip dinner with the family to get on the bike for an hour or two. A pain when it is daylight savings and the NRL starts as I have to choose to go for a ride or watch the games. If I watch the games, try not to stay up too late so I can move my ride to the morning.
 
All I need to sort out now is my uric acid (gout) and Creatine (kidney) levels and I might live to 100!πŸ’― πŸ˜‚
I had to get drug tested last year for access to a client site.

The guy asked about supplements. I thought about how you see athletes blame their supplements for being tainted. No, he was referring to creatine.

My creatine levels were through the roof.

Shows you only need the minimum 5g a day and not the traditional loading period. I add creatine to a protein shake in the morning, otherwise I'm likely to forget. Any supplements I want to take before working out I often forget.
 
Yeah, creatine supplements makes your creatinine on blood tests look out of the park - I didn't realise this a couple of years ago until the doctor gave me a call and I realised taking creatine a few days a week at that time would make that result look worrying. Re-tested after a week or so off it and everything was back to normal.

Overdue for my yearly blood tests so might hold off till next week to make sure the supplement-induced creatinine is flushed out!
 

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