Politics πŸ€‘ Donald Trump

I think we need to look at ICE from a forensic legal and law enforcement, human rights perspective. Trying to abstract it into political buzz words like communist and fascist is not helpful. The good thing is there are people who will dig for the truth in the US as shown by My Lai seymour Hersch is still active. It will come out, just a matter of when
I get what you're saying & that will be the quickest way to deal with the situation - but the deeper issue is the conduct is linked by a regime that are showing all the hallmarks of a fascist regime. The current government have a very one-sided and hypocritical perspective of human rights & inability to confront truth.
 

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I get what you're saying & that will be the quickest way to deal with the situation - but the deeper issue is the conduct is linked by a regime that are showing all the hallmarks of a fascist regime. The current government have a very one-sided and hypocritical perspective of human rights & inability to confront truth.

WHat will happen (hopefully) is that someone in the know makes the decision to follow the constitution, not the Whitehouse. I am hopefuk, they are a very patriotic people.
 

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WHat will happen (hopefully) is that someone in the know makes the decision to follow the constitution, not the Whitehouse. I am hopefuk, they are a very patriotic people.
That requires two out of these to align as a minimum: Democrats (if they are standing up there's no cut through, which is possible given the strangulation the billionaires backing Trump have over the media there), honest Republicans willing to stand up (not visible, do they exist?) and the American people.

If the Americans can break through this I truly hope the constitution, if it ends up in a more democratic form is enshrined and independent of abuse.
 

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Going to be interesting if they manage to rid themselves of immigrants, who’s going to fill the void? Machines? They won’t be cheap and probably out of reach for the average person
 

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I get what you're saying & that will be the quickest way to deal with the situation - but the deeper issue is the conduct is linked by a regime that are showing all the hallmarks of a fascist regime. The current government have a very one-sided and hypocritical perspective of human rights & inability to confront truth.

Yes.

Reducing it to legal arguments and removing the politic completely ignores the driving force behind it all.

And this can clearly be seen by the Federal Govt officials being replaced by the regime specifically to remove constitutional frame works and to ignore the laws of the land.

Ergo....and this point really is the shit kicker, Trumps Govt places political animals from his far right circle in charge of the F.B.I. the military etc and therefore we see that this idea of appealing to the constitution and operational laws is completely irrelevant....and this is the proof: Citizens murdered = F.B.I. response is totally polluted, corrupted, unethical and driven by Political controls instituted by key Trump appointments.

It is the whole dam system.
 
Yes.

Reducing it to legal arguments and removing the politic completely ignores the driving force behind it all.

And this can clearly be seen by the Federal Govt officials being replaced by the regime specifically to remove constitutional frame works and to ignore the laws of the land.

Ergo....and this point really is the shit kicker, Trumps Govt places political animals from his far right circle in charge of the F.B.I. the military etc and therefore we see that this idea of appealing to the constitution and operational laws is completely irrelevant....and this is the proof: Citizens murdered = F.B.I. response is totally polluted, corrupted, unethical and driven by Political controls instituted by key Trump appointments.

It is the whole dam system.
IT REALLY, REALLY, REALLY, REALLY, REALLY IS THE RIGHT.
 

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What’s the latest angle? They’re doing immigrants a favour because they’re slaves?
He’s saying the same argument about unaffordability was used against stopping slavery. We stopped slavery and everyone moved on.

NZ tried to stop immigration during covid and we suffered huge labour shortages, massive price increases and in the end the govt opened the flood gates again.

To ween off immigration needs to be a long slow planned process.
 
He’s saying the same argument about unaffordability was used against stopping slavery. We stopped slavery and everyone moved on.

NZ tried to stop immigration during covid and we suffered huge labour shortages, massive price increases and in the end the govt opened the flood gates again.

To ween off immigration needs to be a long slow planned process.
But this is the conundrum in a nutshell, who’s going to do those jobs for the low wages? It’s no different over here in low paid jobs historically that we’ve brought people in to fill the roles when they can’t be filled for the low wages. It’s like American manufacturing too, all well and good to say bring the jobs back to America, but who’s going to do them when the product is manufactured overseas at a pittance. In a world where money comes out the winner every time, it’s not realistic without wage growth and more money to attract those that aren’t interested. There’s also the conundrum of machine type workers as they’re produced and that could have a bearing on immigration for work purposes too? Immigration also needs to be bringing in the correct people for the roles of for work purposes and after the Christchurch earthquakes, Irish builders were brought in working to a poor spec and a lot of the boom of work in Christchurch right now is remedial work performed by them
 
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