This is Hipkins’ “I’m sorry for being a man” moment
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How's that? Sounds like he's trying to rebrand as a moderate who won't make the unrealistic election promises of recent Labour and Nats govts.
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Isn’t the solution to be effective and deliver on you promises rather than promise nothing at all?
Perhaps underpromise and over deliver? Or maybe Labour truely doesn’t have a vision for NZ and will just rely on National losing rather than Labour winning.
By default it seems pretty un-aspirational
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I just think he’s weak. He’s had the remit of Crime (went out of control and oversaw Coster), Education (went downhill), Health (ditto), covid vaccines (“front of the queue”). He had the mandate to deliver the long-vaunted tax revolution, but he couldn’t do it
He has a credibility problem. He’s lowering the bar for achievement, but like Winston said, he’s Poo Midas. It’s not the goal, it’s his ability to execute
On top of that, I have no idea what he stands for. His record is one of non-delivery
At least be aspirational, to win over some of the middle votes. That’s something that Cindy was able to do - get some middle and right-leaning voters to believe in a dream.
Thing is you can think all those things about him, yet Luxon isn’t and hasn’t ever been able to capitalise on that with him never swaying from his low preferred pm mantle that’s only ever a smidgen over Hipkins, so we’ve got 2 limp dicks. I would say labour would be fairly buoyant after the last polls to only sit one point behind national and would imagine that it’s in their view to go after the election rather than the seemingly let the government fall over ploy that seemed to be adopted? It was coalition partners that put the current government over line in the latest polls and with such a long time in politics until the election I feel huge amount could play out? Could effect either side too but nothing seems to be detracting from this looking like its shaping up for a close election
That’s a highly optimistic view you’ve put forward there for the left. Our economy has bottomed & is recovering. Labour needed a big lead at this point, which they don’t have.
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I think Hipkins is right in that parties now over promise and under deliver but you still have to have a vision for the country that you can communicate, neither major party has the vision or the visionary leader. If you look at their websites they all have the same kind of grand statements but under that there isnt much that makes sense. Same for most of the minor parties, although Greens and Te Pati māori have more of a plan but most would say it isnt a good one its easier when you are singular focused and everyone knows you are only there to make up the numbers and push through a few policy wins. I like what TOP has becaus they look at the countries strengths tpo determine direction and have a more data driven approach, but they are crap at marketing and communication so probably going nowhere.
A long way to go but I reckon National will get in again just because they are hitting the election at the right time for low interest rates and so we will see some housing price rises plus the impact of farmers having more money from the higher global prices in meat and wool plus the Fonterra dividend. Hopefully they can go it alone but seems unlikely. Their own infighting and internal politics might be the thing that brings them down or a correction in the global economy that hits at the wrong time.
A long way to go but I reckon National will get in again just because they are hitting the election at the right time for low interest rates and so we will see some housing price rises plus the impact of farmers having more money from the higher global prices in meat and wool plus the Fonterra dividend. Hopefully they can go it alone but seems unlikely. Their own infighting and internal politics might be the thing that brings them down or a correction in the global economy that hits at the wrong time.
There’s nothing between the major parties and the minor parties shaping up as the deciding factor if this trend continues. If the economy is any way not firing by then and these green shoots haven’t developed into something by then, I don’t see them staying in power. The blame from labour to Orr back to labour and so on has worn thin to the country and the more they don’t take ownership for some of the state will be to their detriment. All are quick to claim when things are going well but quick to pass on any failures. Wouldn’t be surprised to see something major in the wake of the tragedy in Australia yesterday soon, there seems to be many of these occur once one does
Word of warning.... there's yet another fake email doing the rounds saying it's from the IRD (except they "forgot" the "d" in their email address and instead of saying it's from "irdonline, it says it's from "ironline") claiming that you're about to receive a tax refund. Don't click on the attached PDF on the email as you'll most likely be downloading either a virus or spyware on to your computer.
Unless you feel like clicking on the PDF so you can describe how bad things get for you as an education exercise for the rest of us!!!
You have been warned!!!
Unless you feel like clicking on the PDF so you can describe how bad things get for you as an education exercise for the rest of us!!!
You have been warned!!!
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Thanks Mike. When you say another, what was the other?
I get them quite frequently.... either from the "IRD" or banks which I don't bank with which has seen "suspicious activity" on accounts I don't have.
Also, received emails from "KiwiSaver" providers I've never used providing a "link" for me to review what fund I'm with.
Amazing how, when you put your mouse over top of the link provided, it's never the bank or financial institution but a university in Estonia that comes up. Unless ASB have started a branch there, of course.
Still, am yet to receive any "romance" invites.... unless my wife deletes them before I see them.
And I could have owned a small African country by now from all these African "royals" needing to get their money out of their country.
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Mongrels… You need another device for your romantic invitations
Turks, Chinese or Russians playing tricks on us.
Yeah, sorry yours didn't make it past my email protection software
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Stupid Minions of the Orange One
Might need to change my username to epstein12
ACC sent me a text a fortnight ago saying to contact them urgently which I thought was highly irregular? I called and as always i was talking to somebody overseas and was regarding them saying they had taken my levy out twice by mistake and asking if I wanted it returned? I was pretty conflicted about what to do and said I wanted it returned and was waiting for him to ask for account details, but he gave them to me as he was reading them over a screen. I went with it and finally got a letter the other day confirming a refund to know it was legit, but it’s so hard to know sometimes and I was surprised at the text aspect from acc
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I'm surprised that more banks aren't using a system like ASB's to confirm it's them calling you.
How does theirs work?
