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MrFrankWhite said:
But I stand by my comment! If you can’t tell the study of bugs apart from philosophy, you’re lost!
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This is apart of ai’s brief meaning and origin around sympathy


  • Transition to English:
    The word entered English in the late 16th and early 17th centuries via Latin.

  • Modern Usage:
    Today, while still related to sharing feelings, sympathy is often contrasted with empathy. Sympathy is generally understood as feeling compassion or sorrow for someone's misfortune, but not necessarily experiencing their emotions as one's own
 
juju said:
That's not the full quote though & that's literally is a selective snippet & meme, so you're not providing the context at all.
The full quote is an anti democrat spiel that veers into anti science and anti vaccination.

Empathy is not a new age term or invention and he has the definition incorrect.
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Yes that's fair. I probably should have posted the entire transcript rather than what I did, but this also does prove the point I was making.

He was referring to the use of the word empathy in a new age political term context.

Interesting though that people who never heard of him before, making a judgement of who he was on a snippet taken out of context of something he said and then continue on doing so.
 
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MrFrankWhite said:
Without getting in the gender bs, could a man empathise with a woman giving birth?
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Yes to an extent. Once I was constipated and when i finally shit it was hard and large and it hurt like fuck. I imagine that pushing out a child hurts like that but x100 for longer and I can emphasize.
The elasticity of my butt didn't seem impacted so I can't emphasize with that part or of the pain of being a mother for the rest of your life when you have a different bond with a child borne of carrying them.
Actually I correct myself after writing all that - No.
 
Tragic said:
Yes to an extent.
The elasticity of my butt didn't seem impacted so
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Tragic said:
Yes to an extent. Once I was constipated and when i finally shit it was hard and large and it hurt like fuck. I imagine that pushing out a child hurts like that but x100 for longer and I can emphasize.
The elasticity of my butt didn't seem impacted so I can't emphasize with that part or of the pain of being a mother for the rest of your life when you have a different bond with a child borne of carrying them.
Actually I correct myself after writing all that - No.
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😂.
Constipation aye??????? 🤔

Tell @Worrisome to go easy on you next time 😉
 
wizard of Tauranga said:
This guy was a great proponent of freedom of speech and I respect that.

But with freedoms of expression comes responsibility and sometimes consequences. This guy embarrassed people and humiliated them as part of his social media platform. Used his superior intellect and years of practice to intellectually ‘shoot people down’ and posted it for views. Not a deliberate attempt to embarrass people but definitely a by product when debating ‘intelligent’ college student where their public defeat was a byproduct.

I can see how it could easily have been one of those humiliated individuals… in a perfect world, everyone moves on, but there are human emotions and feelings…

But what I struggle with, is freedom of speech is acceptable but can’t extend it to physical violence. However when there’s a power or intellectual imbalance then it’s not a fair argument is it? Mental harm can be worse than physical harm (not shooting someone obviously!) How do we allow freedom of speech vs emotional harm?

I think the rise in people taking issues into their own hands through violence, Wellington protests, Tom Phillips, sovereign citizens, voting for Trump, shooting at Trump, etc is the power imbalance and inability of everyday people to have a fair influence over their own lives. The power imbalance and smart people creating a system that traps people.

Just my random thoughts for the day.
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What is emotional harm?

If we ever get to the point where a defendant in court can legitimately use the "That redneck hillbilly HURT MY MANA so I stabbed him!" argument and have it used as defence against being found guilty, rather than a mitigating circumstance at sentencing (even then, it's an unprovable argument, it's basically "take my word for it, he hurt my soul and I DESERVED REVENGE!"), we're significantly even more screwed than we are now.

Freedom of speech wins over emotional harm. Even with the power (is it okay to justify smacking your boss because A You disagree with him and B He's got more power than you?) or intellect (The old "kill the intellectuals" attitude of people like the Khmer Rouge comes to mind, there) imbalance, you can't let the few nutbags who take excessive personal offence to someone they agree with on political or social issues ruin that.

But there is always a way of refuting someone's arguments respectfully and thoughtfully rather than outright telling them they're walking, talking brain donors and if they went to Australia from New Zealand, the average IQs of both countries would go up. I fear we're losing that, bit by bit.

Over the last few years I keep hearing National and Labour - and this probably the same in Australia with their major politcal parties - being compared as different cheeks on the same ass. So only the minor parties offer real substantial difference but, of course, they're not likely to ever get to deliver on those differences that might seriously change things quickly. Is that a good or bad thing, given the disruption that would cause? And the killer, we might like the theory of that serious, quick change but would we like the practice. Like climate change, we want other people to change their jobs/habits because it's good for the environment (shut down the mining in Westport/Greymouth). But we don't want do that ourselves (not get the latest, greatest Samsung or protest planned obsolescence, which uses in part the stuff the mining Westport/Greymouth digs up).
 
Tragic said:
Yes to an extent. Once I was constipated and when i finally shit it was hard and large and it hurt like fuck. I imagine that pushing out a child hurts like that but x100 for longer and I can emphasize.
The elasticity of my butt didn't seem impacted so I can't emphasize with that part or of the pain of being a mother for the rest of your life when you have a different bond with a child borne of carrying them.
Actually I correct myself after writing all that - No.
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Metamucil, it'll change your life mate. Or better yet, Caruso's Poo Well, you'll shit like Caruso.
 
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