- Thread starter
- #17,981
Me and top8 like idiotically arm wrestling each other, all in good funAnd the Oscar goes to......

I actually admire his dedication to his cause!
Follow along with the video below to see how to install our site as a web app on your home screen.
Note: This feature may not be available in some browsers.
Me and top8 like idiotically arm wrestling each other, all in good funAnd the Oscar goes to......
Top8 seems to have reduced his volume of output in the last day or so, my guess is he’s starting to waiver in his views. Thanks to your efforts Wiz I think he’s coming round to the reality that centre-right is indeed right.Me and top8 like idiotically arm wrestling each other, all in good fun
I actually admire his dedication to his cause!
Probably.Top8 seems to have reduced his volume of output in the last day or so, my guess is he’s starting to waiver in his views. Thanks to your efforts Wiz I think he’s coming round to the reality that centre-right is indeed right.
As I’ve said before, say what you like about Luxon (and I’ve said plenty), however the man has good timing. Only thing that stands in the way of another centre right term is Winnie doing a Winnie.Probably.
Crimes, inflation, health, education all 100% better under a centre right govt. Interest rates are returning to normal, more money in everyone’s pockets and seem to be climbing out of the recession Labour left us with.
I’m feeling pretty positive about the economy and country next year… and wow, it’s (election year). 3 more years!
Nah....btw no one here is centre right in the most common posters I respond to although if I was to walk that back a little bit I'd probably say Mike was. You're all right or hard right. You just don't think you are, or if you do you won't come out so to speak.Top8 seems to have reduced his volume of output in the last day or so, my guess is he’s starting to waiver in his views. Thanks to your efforts Wiz I think he’s coming round to the reality that centre-right is indeed right.
Yeah that makes sense, us & the majority of New Zealanders are hard right whereas you, Chloe , Doyle etc represent the middle ground…Nah....btw no one here is centre right in the most common posters I respond to although if I was to walk that back a little bit I'd probably say Mike was. You're all right or hard right. You just don't think you are, or if you do you won't come out so to speak.
You guys do you as you do. One day you'll understand, or not.
View attachment 13772
Bluesky
bsky.app
A male version of Chloe. Great at talking. Very confident. Beliefs based. Not across factsJust plain envy and jealous.
Remarkable isn't it how often the mob, and in this case an actual mob stirred up by Frank at one point, are in the wrong.Yeah that makes sense, us & the majority of New Zealanders are hard right whereas you, Chloe , Doyle etc represent the middle ground…
Well no, the ‘wisdom of crowd’ for sourcing answers is generally accepted to be more accurate than individual beliefs.Remarkable isn't it how often the mob, and in this case an actual mob stirred up by Frank at one point, are in the wrong.
What’s remarkable is that you could be so arrogant as to believe that the political views of the majority of people in a country such as New Zealand represent an extreme-right ideology simply because they don’t align with your own.Remarkable isn't it how often the mob, and in this case an actual mob stirred up by Frank at one point, are in the wrong.
As opposed to being arrogant enough to believe that you are representative of the political views of the majority of New Zealanders, simply because......well, simply because.What’s remarkable is that you could be so arrogant as to believe that the political views of the majority of people in a country such as New Zealand represent an extreme-right ideology simply because they don’t align with your own.
I'm not really liking our choices for next year.... the centre-right propped up by these guysProbably.
Crimes, inflation, health, education all 100% better under a centre right govt. Interest rates are returning to normal, more money in everyone’s pockets and seem to be climbing out of the recession Labour left us with.
I’m feeling pretty positive about the economy and country next year… and wow, that’s election year. 3 more years!
Te Pati māori also post a lot of disinformation at times as wellI'm not really liking our choices for next year.... the centre-right propped up by these guys
![]()
ACT leader blames identity politics, previous government for setting NZ 'against each other'
But supporters are calling on their party to stick to its values as it takes stock.www.rnz.co.nz
Or the centre-left propped up by these guys (I've included the whole article only because it's behind the Herald's paywall)
Te Pāti Māori fails again to file financial documents on time despite police warning
Te Pāti Māori has again failed to file its audited financial statements on time, despite being formally warned by police last year.
It’s also yet to provide the Electoral Commission with an audit report for last year’s financial statement.
Labour has also missed a deadline. It provided the commission with its financial statements on time, but without an audit report. The commission says it is satisfied with the reasons the opposition party has provided for the delay.
According to the Electoral Commission, registered political parties must file financial statements each year. These lay out the parties’ income, expenses and surplus or deficit as well as a variety of other details about their financial performance.
The deadline for filing these documents varies between different parties, but for many – including National, Act, Labour and Te Pāti Māori - the Electoral Commission required the statements by June 30, 2025.
The commission’s website currently shows most parties met the deadline, but Te Pāti Māori’s documents are labelled “not yet received”.
Kristina Temel, the Electoral Commission’s manager for legal, regulation and policy, told the Herald it was following up with Te Pāti Māori about its compliance.
“Te Pāti Māori has not yet filed financial statements or an audit report but has told the Commission they are being prepared and will be filed soon,” said Temel.
“They have also informed us that the outstanding audit report for last year’s financial statements will be filed at the same time.”
The Electoral Commission last year referred Te Pāti Māori to the police after it failed to file its previous annual financial statements. The document was eventually received, but was missing information, including the audit report.
Police in December formally warned the party, though the financial statements still do not have an audit report attached.
Te Pāti Māori was approached for comment, but did not respond. Its political leaders, Rawiri Waititi and Debbie Ngarewa-Packer have previously refused to comment on what they have referred to as a party issue.
The commission’s website shows Labour filed its statements by June 30, but an audit report had not been received. It is also following up with Labour.
“Labour has not filed an audit report for its financial statements,” said Temel.
“The party contacted us before 30 June to advise that its audit report is taking longer than expected and at this stage we are satisfied with the reasons they and their auditor have given.”
Leader Chris Hipkins on Tuesday referred the matter to the party.
Rob Salmond, Labour’s general secretary told the Herald: “Labour is continuing to work with our audit partners as we transition to a new set of accounting practices.
“We are in the late stages of this process,” he said.
Temel said the commission can refer matters to the police if compliance “is not reached”.
No decisions had been made about any referrals “at this point”.
“Under section 210J of the Electoral Act, it is an offence for a party secretary to file a financial statement late or fail to file a financial statement without reasonable excuse.”
![]()
Te Pāti Māori fails again to file financial documents on time
The Electoral Commission says no decisions about referrals to police have been made.www.nzherald.co.nz
Then I'm wondering what's worse.... ACT wanting an unelected group to go through all the Parliamentary Acts to see if they complies with their regulation reduction bill or the māori Party wanting to have an unelected person making sure all Acts comply with their version of the Treaty of Waitangi.
Either seems an attack on democracy as far as I'm concerned.
TOPP or Brand Winnie looking more appealing everyday!!!!
Nope, never said. However I’m reasonably happy with the performance of our democratically elected coalition government (that I also had a hand in voting in) so doesn’t that place me somewhere on the political spectrum within the range that is representative of our majority as at the last election - noting that current polling would still comfortably have that coalition in power?As opposed to being arrogant enough to believe that you are representative of the political views of the majority of New Zealanders, simply because......well, simply because.
I'm merely pointing out fact, nothing to do with any alignment of my views.
It's about integrity and protection of our country, our community.
![]()
Anne Salmond: Freedom, for whom?
In the third-part of a series of columns on the Regulatory Standards Bill, Dame Anne Salmond argues most NZers would tell its proponents to 'get lost', and urges National to act.newsroom.co.nz
@Mr. Brownstone @defensivebomb @wizard of TaurangaThe far right in New Zealand are exceptionally dangerous. The economic far right are here to extract wealth, sell off our assets and lock us out of our own country.
ALL of us should be fighting this.
Superb journalism.
Seymour's ministry for regulation is underpinned by Bryce Wilkinson, unelected, from the far right New Zealand Initiative. Who are affilliated of Atlas.
The Post
www.thepost.co.nz
Attacks on you??@Mr. Brownstone @defensivebomb @wizard of Tauranga
Given the high prevalence of attacks on, well, me, instead of addressing the points of concern, how about some thoughts on this very clear linking to far right economic thinktanks and the ACT party, and the regulatory standards bill?
How do you morally feel about New Zealand being sold off?
And wiz? You accuse me of disinformation all the time, including privatisation. Guess what? They're privatising New Zealand's health system as we speak. It's fact. It's been fact for the entire history of neoliberalism in this country.
Only interested in genuine thoughts on the facts of the article which are very clearly laid out.