Current Affairs What was Elon doing?

What was Elon trying to do?

  • Fascist salute

    Votes: 14 63.6%
  • Showing love to the crowd

    Votes: 6 27.3%
  • Something else - explain

    Votes: 2 9.1%

  • Total voters
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Im not defending it, theres nothing to defend. I was merely explaining what it was.

And we get it, you hate western culture and values.
You don't understand at all, Western culture and values are my culture and values. I criticize the bullshit that Western culture perpetuates as part of Anglo Saxon Exceptionlism.
As such I am a voice which from my pov sees the matrix for what it is.
 

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This one is for all you people who think Maori and Indigenous Australians get special treatment.

Lets apply your own societal values and laws to a non racially identified citizen of NZ or Australia.

Lets say a white farmer in Canterbury had his farm taken unfairly by the Govt and his descendants wish to apply to the laws of the land for redress.

Lets just say that under our current laws, White people who have their homes taken by the Govt tomorrow get compensation, and no one bats an eyelid.

Ergo, get rid of this treaty, fine, and pay the bill for stealing millions of acres off New Zealand citizens you define as Maori special treatment cases. Lets just give those Maori the same laws of the land that you are protected by, get rid of the treaty fine, pay the Maori who had land stolen the fair market rate as if they were whites farming in Canterbury when the land was stolen protected by the same White laws.

No stomach for that? Yeah well that is why my family are fighting the Dept of Conservation for lands that are ours which they decided to turn into a Doc reserve without any permission from the land owner. Why am I not protected by White laws to stop this land theft? Apparently our situation is not meant to happen in the present day. We gave Doc Cuvier Island, gave it to them, as part of a treaty settlement, in other words the crown recognized they stole the Island, and they turned it into a reserve (how would you like your assets seized and turned into a reserve) So we agreed to let the White man keep it. in the two thousands, and yet we are fighting the same people for lands they took in my life time near Waihi.

I am sick to death of reading about special treatment for maori in this forum, hell we ain't even protected by white law for our own assets.

Special treatment? stick your treaty and your special treatment up ya arse and give us the same normal treatment under White laws which prevent White people having their assets stolen. Treat us like whites please.
 
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You don't understand at all, Western culture and values are my culture and values. I criticize the bullshit that Western culture perpetuates as part of Anglo Saxon Exceptionlism.
As such I am a voice which from my pov sees the matrix for what it is.
No you dont, you apply judgement from your well fed comfort, onto the historical past.

To think in 100AD, Romans were the bad guys, is just laughable.
 

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No you dont, you apply judgement from your well fed comfort, onto the historical past.

To think in 100AD, Romans were the bad guys, is just laughable.
Are you fighting to keep hold of your assets as I type?

You know nothing.

You think the treaty negotiations are a hand out, among those legal cases are Govt attempts to re classify land today to steal it from private owners.
 
This one is for all you people who think Maori and Indigenous Australians get special treatment.

Lets apply your own societal values and laws to a non racially identified citizen of NZ or Australia.

Lets say a white farmer in Canterbury had his farm taken unfairly by the Govt and his descendants wish to apply to the laws of the land for redress.

Lets just say that under our current laws, White people who have their homes taken by the Govt tomorrow get compensation, and no one bats an eyelid.

Ergo, get rid of this treaty, fine, and pay the bill for stealing millions of acres off New Zealand citizens you define as Maori special treatment cases. Lets just give those Maori the same laws of the land that you are protected by, get rid of the treaty fine, pay the Maori who had land stolen the fair market rate as if they were whites farming in Canterbury when the land was stolen protected by the same White laws.

No stomach for that? Yeah well that is why my family are fighting the Dept of Conservation for lands that are ours which they decided to turn into a Doc reserve without any permission from the land owner. Why am I not protected by White laws to stop this land theft? Apparently our situation is not meant to happen in the present day. We gave Doc Cuvier Island, gave it to them, as part of a treaty settlement, in other words the crown recognized they stole the Island, and they turned it into a reserve (how would you like your assets seized and turned into a reserve) So we agreed to let the White man keep it. in the two thousands, and yet we are fighting the same people for lands they took in my life time near Waihi.

I am sick to death of reading about special treatment for maori in this forum, hell we ain't even protected by white law for our own assets.

Special treatment? stick your treaty and your special treatment up ya arse and give us the same normal treatment under White laws which prevent White people having their assets stolen. Treat us like whites please.

While I have sympathy of you situation if you are a victim of govt over reach, this doesn't make sense as a reader. I cant understand the story sorry.
 

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Are you fighting to keep hold of your assets as I type?

You know nothing.

You think the treaty negotiations are a hand out, among those legal cases are Govt attempts to re classify land today to steal it from private owners.
lol thats the worst intereptation of my position I've ever seen. I guess you have to take that position to justify yours.
 
This one is for all you people who think Maori and Indigenous Australians get special treatment.

Lets apply your own societal values and laws to a non racially identified citizen of NZ or Australia.

Lets say a white farmer in Canterbury had his farm taken unfairly by the Govt and his descendants wish to apply to the laws of the land for redress.

Lets just say that under our current laws, White people who have their homes taken by the Govt tomorrow get compensation, and no one bats an eyelid.

Ergo, get rid of this treaty, fine, and pay the bill for stealing millions of acres off New Zealand citizens you define as Maori special treatment cases. Lets just give those Maori the same laws of the land that you are protected by, get rid of the treaty fine, pay the Maori who had land stolen the fair market rate as if they were whites farming in Canterbury when the land was stolen protected by the same White laws.

No stomach for that? Yeah well that is why my family are fighting the Dept of Conservation for lands that are ours which they decided to turn into a Doc reserve without any permission from the land owner. Why am I not protected by White laws to stop this land theft? Apparently our situation is not meant to happen in the present day. We gave Doc Cuvier Island, gave it to them, as part of a treaty settlement, in other words the crown recognized they stole the Island, and they turned it into a reserve (how would you like your assets seized and turned into a reserve) So we agreed to let the White man keep it. in the two thousands, and yet we are fighting the same people for lands they took in my life time near Waihi.

I am sick to death of reading about special treatment for maori in this forum, hell we ain't even protected by white law for our own assets.

Special treatment? stick your treaty and your special treatment up ya arse and give us the same normal treatment under White laws which prevent White people having their assets stolen. Treat us like whites please.
Bro wtf does any of this have to do with Elon musk?

Or rik mayall?
 

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That's stupid too. You blokes need to stop throwing around 'lefties', I'm not a lefty. I see things I like from both sides. And things I dislike from both sides.
But Mongrel Mobs seig heil is irrelevant to this discussion.
I come from a town with a heavy mongrel mob presence. I used to play league with a lot of them.

Around town I never heard seig heil it was more seig hell. I can't recall seeing any salutes it was more hang loose signals. I have probably seen more salutes from news clips in recent years. So the likely do salute.

I had a class mate in high school turn around in school and give a sieg hell with a hang loose gesture. The teacher than gave us a explain the history of it even though it didn't match what he said.

I have always wondered when it is reported about the mob that it might be misheard.
 
To me it is best/safer to stay away from any gestures that could be taken another way.

As seen in this discussion the salute has a history prior to the Nazis. So does the swastika. Do a quick Google search of it and you see links to India and there used to be rounded versions. Still you don't see that symbol anymore.
 

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Bro wtf does any of this have to do with Elon musk?

Or rik mayall?
Nothing. In future I will ignore derailment to local race relations. But all right wing surges by White supremacists have relevance to local society since Maori rights are under attack right now thanks to the right wing swing globally.

Quite honestly Elon is a nobody to me, I have zero interest in the guy after looking into his background, he is not even very intelligent outside of his ability to spin, make lots of money, Elon the person is a bit dim witted, and he is a creepy narcissist. Take away the financial empire and he's a bit of an idiot.
 
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