Player Ronald Volkman

[xzei]

That's fantastic from the club. Not sure many other, if any, clubs would do the same in a similar situation

Under the CBA, the previous club of a player can still be deemed responsible for medical costs like surgery and rehabilitation.

That provision is one of many the RLPA secured during protracted negotiations last year to help ensure players like Volkman, still have a layer of protection while uncontracted.

is what is written in the shit rag the courier mail i think you were paying regardless

 

[Inruin]

Under the CBA, the previous club of a player can still be deemed responsible for medical costs like surgery and rehabilitation.

That provision is one of many the RLPA secured during protracted negotiations last year to help ensure players like Volkman, still have a layer of protection while uncontracted.

is what is written in the shit rag the courier mail i think you were paying regardless

Any link to that?

 

[xzei]

Any link to that?

https://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/nrl/nrl-2024-warriors-to-pay-for-ronald-volkmans-surgery-after-dragons-axing/news-story/750bc478233a179c3f1c06609ad5a29d?amp

its a paid site if that dont work this is the only bit with any relevance



feel free to delete if its against your forums rules ect to post images of paid sites/shrug

 

[marv.]

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right move,
i hope it doesn’t reflect badly on the club though. ol flanno waving his dick around and warriors pick up the tab.

pretty weak look if you see it from that angle.



(not saying you should)

 

[Inruin]

https://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/nrl/nrl-2024-warriors-to-pay-for-ronald-volkmans-surgery-after-dragons-axing/news-story/750bc478233a179c3f1c06609ad5a29d?amp

its a paid site if that dont work this is the only bit with any relevance

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feel free to delete if its against your forums rules ect to post images of paid sites/shrug

Interesting wording though. 'Can' still be deemed responsible. Different to 'will be' or 'is'

Seems like there is a bit more for the Dragons to answer for with Flanagan admitting Volkman was training with them.

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

It makes sense. If the injury happened here he will be covered under the clubs insurance (note it will be insurance that pays).

It doesn’t matter when the injury is found it’s when it happened for an insurance claim?

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

Does Nz ACC bear some of the cost?

An article here suggests professional sports teams pay a premium to cover injuries: ‘paying: $6.43 per $100 of liable earnings instead of 14c or 59c per $100.’

Might be for emergency care with planned stuff private? And how do visiting teams who pay no ACC get covered?

Stuff

www.stuff.co.nz

 

[watcher]

As this saga has played out which club would be more attractive as a destination, Warriors treat players as humans, Dragons as commodities.

 

[NZDoug]

Classy move By Wahs.
Can only make them look good.

 

[xzei]

i mean neither club comes out looking good from it imo they were arguing at the start who was responsible for the cost. As per the RLPA agreement the warriors would be the most likely to be responsible as the injury happened in pre season training with them.
id be saying the same thing if my club sent Karl oloapu to the bulldogs broken and he ended up in the same situation as volkman.

 

[watcher]

Volkman's management is the major issue here IMO. The things that broke down should have been jumped on by his management. They only looked at the .money, not the deal.

 

[defensivebomb]

surely Cam George could have said something along the lines of:
"we will take care of Ronald's surgery, and we're not pointing the finger at anyone. Facts are facts. The Dragons came second to last in 2023 and are coached by a dirty drug cheat"

 

[snake77]

Glad that Volkman is being taken care of.

It makes sense for the Warriors to pay for it. The rules posted earlier would work the same way if the player retired. It also makes sense that the clubs statement about it makes them look good. Can understand them putting a statement out that they are doing the right thing instead of. We are paying for it cause we have to.

I will be interested to see how much work Volkman's management does to get him a new contract. Do they come back to him in 6 months to a year and say there isn't much out there as your out of sight out of mind. A lot of players move on to new management. if there was a strong case for the player being justified in moving on. This would be a good example.

 

[Wellington Warrior]

It’s really only fair that we cover the costs of his surgery. The Injury happened under our watch.
But surely the manager needs to be better in this scenario. I’d be finding someone new to rep me going forward!

 

[Tookey 2.0]

I'm stoked were agreeing to do this, imo I don't think we're at fault. All of this could have been avoided if RVs manager and the Dragons did the right thing and follow the correct processes. If that happened RV would still be with us and we'd be forced to pay.

However, those 2 party's shit the bed and we let RV know we're here and happy to cover costs. It shows that we give a shit about player welfare and have done the right thing by 21 year old Ronnie (unless we found out we were liable behind the scenes and decided to cover our arse).

I think some players will take note that the Warriors are a team who actually give a shit....hope it helps us down the track

 

[Wrighty]

I'm stoked were agreeing to do this, imo I don't think we're at fault. All of this could have been avoided if RVs manager and the Dragons did the right thing and follow the correct processes. If that happened RV would still be with us and we'd be forced to pay.

However, those 2 party's shit the bed and we let RV know we're here and happy to cover costs. It shows that we give a shit about player welfare and have done the right thing by 21 year old Ronnie (unless we found out we were liable behind the scenes and decided to cover our arse).

I think some players will take note that the Warriors are a team who actually give a shit....hope it helps us down the track

Plus if reports are true that we got a transfer fee from the Sharks for AFB then we had a bit of discretionary budget for an expense such as this. Good timing for Ronald if that is true.

 

[Ozwarrior]

NRL 2024: Warriors to house Ronald Volkman, pay for surgery after Dragons axing | Daily Telegraph​

New Zealand Warriors CEO Cameron George has welcomed any further probing into the Ronald Volkman contract saga after the club agreed to pay for the youngster’s surgery.
Volkman will travel to New Zealand in the coming days where he will undergo surgery on the shoulder injury which scuttled his one-year deal with St George Illawarra in 2024.

George told this masthead that covering the costs of his treatment and rehabilitation was the ‘right thing to do.’

“I’m not here looking at the circumstances, the NRL, the RLPA are looking at that. Our front door is open for them to come and ask us questions at any time,” George said.

“But when I spoke to Andrew Webster and Andrew McFadden the other day, we all genuinely believed that Ronnie is part of our club.

“It broke my heart seeing (how it unfolded). So I spoke to our doctor and Webby and we agreed it’s the right thing to do.”

Volkman will stay in New Zealand after the surgery to recover and begin his rehabilitation, which the Warriors will also provide.

“This is someone’s son, he was part of our club. So we have offered the opportunity for him to come back and have the operation here, which we’ll cover,” George said.

“We just believe it’s the right thing to do. That’s our club, that’s what we do.

“We’ll move him into the club house for a few weeks, get him through it and back on his feet.

“We feel sorry for the unfortunate circumstance he’s in.”

Volkman was left in limbo, and without a club for 2024, when the Dragons walked away from the deal after it was discovered he required season ending shoulder surgery.

The Warriors granted Volkman a from the final two years of his deal on December 24 to link up with the Dragons.

“There was never a problem with him at the club, he was terrific. We just had too many halves at the moment and he got an opportunity to go elsewhere.” George said.

The Dragons announced the signing before the deal had been registered with the NRL.

Without a registered deal, Volkman was exposed to the risk of injury at training without the adequate health insurance protections.

When Volkman arrived in Wollongong, a medical revealed he had a shoulder injury that would sideline him long term.

It’s believed the Dragons received a medical report from the Warriors this month that said Volkman had sustained a contact injury in the middle of December.

Scans then ordered by the Dragons showed screws placed during the previous operation had been displaced.

Last week, Dragons coach Shane Flanagan conceded Volkman should have never trained until the results of their own full medical report had been received.

“We did the right thing, we got all the scans and found out he needs to have surgery. He injured himself at the Warriors,” Flanagan said.

“In all my time I’ve never had a player fail a medical.

“... The light training he did that exposed his injury should have been done behind closed doors.”

Under the CBA, the previous club of a player can still be deemed responsible for medical costs like surgery and rehabilitation.

That provision is one of many the RLPA secured during protracted negotiations last year to help ensure players like Volkman, still have a layer of protection while uncontracted.

Despite the issue of Volkman’s surgery being resolved, the RLPA is likely to pursue further recourse with regards to the matter.

 

[kos]

Gee thats old school nz attitude fixing and helping Mr Volkman
I really like the fact that George Robinson Webster enorsed this and made it happen.
Its a really human thing to do / big tick from me.

 

[kos]

Gee thats old school nz attitude fixing and helping Mr Volkman
I really like the fact that George Robinson Webster enorsed this and made it happen.
Its a really human thing to do / big tick from me.

endorsed

 

[shuffle]

As this saga has played out which club would be more attractive as a destination, Warriors treat players as humans, Dragons as commodities.

Well said!!!