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Eliesa Katoa
🇳🇿 🇹🇴
Second Row, Active Debut: 2020-03-14
- Age
193 Ht
110 Wt
241
Eliesa Katoa
🇳🇿 🇹🇴
Second Row, Active Debut: 2020-03-14
- Age
193 Ht
110 Wt

Player Eliesa Katoa

Full Name
Eliesa Katoa
Date of Birth
Jan 3, 2000
Birth Location
Hihifo, Niuatoputapu, Tonga
Nationality
  1. 🇳🇿 New Zealand
  2. 🇹🇴 Tonga
Height (cm)
193 cm
Weight (kg)
110 kg
Position/s
  1. Second Row
Warrior #
241
NRL Debut Date
Mar 14, 2020
NRL Debut Details
2020, Round 1, New Zealand Warriors vs Newcastle Knights
Warriors Debut Date
Mar 14, 2020
Warriors Debut Details
2020, Round 1, Newcastle Knights
Warriors Years Active
  1. 2020
  2. 2021
  3. 2022
College/s
Tamaki College
Signed To
Melbourne Storm
Current Club
Melbourne Storm
Status
Active
Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eliesa_Katoa
Rugby League Project
https://www.rugbyleagueproject.org/players/eliesa-katoa/summary.html
Overview Gallery Player Statistics Discussion
MaybeTop8 said:
I did mention reckless. The leap off the ground, the turning, the shoulder. But yeah, hiding to nothing on this one.
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What would make it even more unique would be Hopoate to pick up a suspension. Probably reckless, but unfortunate too and it’s the staff that are guilty of letting him play. Hopoate had a poor game and I would imagine he was feeling pretty rubbish about what occurred
 
Noitall said:
What would make it even more unique would be Hopoate to pick up a suspension. Probably reckless, but unfortunate too and it’s the staff that are guilty of letting him play. Hopoate had a poor game and I would imagine he was feeling pretty rubbish about what occurred
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Yeah mate. You would think it would be in the forefront of his mind especially after he copped the other whacks
 
Noitall said:
www.foxsports.com.au

Tonga missed damning Katoa warm-up footage as ‘angry’ Kiwis legend calls for ‘heads to roll’

Tonga missed damning Katoa warm-up footage as ‘angry’ Kiwis legend calls for ‘heads to roll’
www.foxsports.com.au www.foxsports.com.au

SJ pretty candid in this and sees it that heads should roll. Apparently Tongan staff are running with they didn’t see the warm up knock, but he has staff with him when he’s down on the ground? I agree with him that there’s going to be fallout over this
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If it wasn't played up on the big screen at the game then it's fair to say it wasn't seen. The problem though is in that tiny 1 second clip of him prone on the ground it was enough to show a definite serious knock. That he needed clearance to play means that when the second head knock happened it was absurd he was allowed to get back on the field again.
 
The NRL don’t give a shit about player safety and nor do the coaches.

Kikau is another classic example where it looked like he cracked an eye socket at the start of the game and miraculously came back on with one big shiner 15mins later. He was bloody lucky he never got a second knock during the game.
 
jonesy101 said:
If it wasn't played up on the big screen at the game then it's fair to say it wasn't seen. The problem though is in that tiny 1 second clip of him prone on the ground it was enough to show a definite serious knock. That he needed clearance to play means that when the second head knock happened it was absurd he was allowed to get back on the field again.
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People like SJ and those on the sidelines probably feel a bit conflicted that they didn’t take the footage or point out to the Tongan staff of what had occurred now if they didn’t see it and that’s why he was cleared to play? Can only take a positive that someone hasn’t lost their lives, but their career could very much be a factor and his length of time out? This is where nrl are intertwined because storm pays his salary and was he upgraded or in line to be? Because he’s been the form second row for a couple of years running now. Lots of possibilities if how there could be fallout and between who? First and foremost I’m sure is getting Katoa sound and stable though but then it likely turns to a blame game
 
Noitall said:
People like SJ and those on the sidelines probably feel a bit conflicted that they didn’t take the footage or point out to the Tongan staff of what had occurred now if they didn’t see it and that’s why he was cleared to play? Can only take a positive that someone hasn’t lost their lives, but their career could very much be a factor and his length of time out? This is where nrl are intertwined because storm pays his salary and was he upgraded or in line to be? Because he’s been the form second row for a couple of years running now. Lots of possibilities if how there could be fallout and between who? First and foremost I’m sure is getting Katoa sound and stable though but then it likely turns to a blame game
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I don’t buy Tongas stance that they didn’t see it/weren’t aware of it- there’s clearly a trainer right there in the footage. It stinks of staff covering their arses when they clearly messed up badly
 
if Tonga (and the Kiwis) are broke, do they have the medical staff and same level of experts behind the scenes like NRL teams do?

Do the countries (seperate to the players) get financed by the NRL to fun a professional tournament?
 
wizard of Tauranga said:
if Tonga (and the Kiwis) are broke, do they have the medical staff and same level of experts behind the scenes like NRL teams do?

Do the countries (seperate to the players) get financed by the NRL to fun a professional tournament?
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Good question. With the Pacific Championship being an NRL sanctioned event they would surely get the properly trained medical staff.
 
The Tongan team can't even get their stories straight.

Stuff

www.stuff.co.nz www.stuff.co.nz

Tonga officials say they would have prevented Eli Katoa from playing in Sunday’s Pacific Championships match against New Zealand had they seen the damning TV footage of him being floored in a heavy collision during the warm-up.

TV commentators immediately questioned whether Katoa would be fit to play against the Kiwis, and viewers were shown replays of the sickening impact early in the game. However, the first time the Tongans were made aware of the vision was after full-time.

Then it says this which completely contradicts that they were only aware of it until after full-time....

Two Tongan medical staff assessed Katoa after the collision in the warm-up, while also considering feedback from team-mates and Katoa himself. Katoa was not given a head impact assessment.

Heads need to roll for this shit.
 
I saw it on TV before the game even started. Tonga turned a blind eye IMO. This is a terrible look for the game, whoever is involved needs to be made accountable.

I think the NRL needs to assess HIA protocols. It's too hard to trigger the 18th man, it shouldn't be a punishment to have a guy ruled out via an HIA. Just encourages teams to keep guys on the park.

I hope Katoa makes and full and quick recovery.
 
Christchurch_Warrior said:
The Tongan team can't even get their stories straight.

Stuff

www.stuff.co.nz www.stuff.co.nz

Tonga officials say they would have prevented Eli Katoa from playing in Sunday’s Pacific Championships match against New Zealand had they seen the damning TV footage of him being floored in a heavy collision during the warm-up.

TV commentators immediately questioned whether Katoa would be fit to play against the Kiwis, and viewers were shown replays of the sickening impact early in the game. However, the first time the Tongans were made aware of the vision was after full-time.

Then it says this which completely contradicts that they were only aware of it until after full-time....

Two Tongan medical staff assessed Katoa after the collision in the warm-up, while also considering feedback from team-mates and Katoa himself. Katoa was not given a head impact assessment.

Heads need to roll for this shit.
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I think it is possible they didn't see the flush impact at the time, but the footage shows for 1 second they were there when he was on the ground and looked groggy as. To not be given the head impact assessment is unbelievable.
 
Slightly controversial opinion here, but Katoa is partly responsible here

If you take a heavy hit to the head and don't tell someone you feel out of sorts, it makes the medical and coaching staff's jobs harder to do

Players are good about speaking up when they tweak their hammies. They also have a responsibility to ensure staff know what's going on upstairs

Obviously the medical and training staff have the main responsibility, and collectively here they've looked the other way - probably because he's one of Tonga's best players. But players too have an obligation here, especially when it isn't physically obvious
 
defensivebomb said:
Slightly controversial opinion here, but Katoa is partly responsible here

If you take a heavy hit to the head and don't tell someone you feel out of sorts, it makes the medical and coaching staff's jobs harder to do

Players are good about speaking up when they tweak their hammies. They also have a responsibility to ensure staff know what's going on upstairs

Obviously the medical and training staff have the main responsibility, and collectively here they've looked the other way - probably because he's one of Tonga's best players. But players too have an obligation here, especially when it isn't physically obvious
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I agree that Katoa shouldn't just say 'im 100% coach put me in' but literally everyone who saw that incident before that game winced and thought he wouldn't have been playing.

Tonga has changed their story about what happened several times, to me that indicates they know they've fucked up. Duty of care has someone in that Tongan team stepping up and saying no way, you're not playing, which sounds like it never happened
 
defensivebomb said:
Slightly controversial opinion here, but Katoa is partly responsible here

If you take a heavy hit to the head and don't tell someone you feel out of sorts, it makes the medical and coaching staff's jobs harder to do

Players are good about speaking up when they tweak their hammies. They also have a responsibility to ensure staff know what's going on upstairs

Obviously the medical and training staff have the main responsibility, and collectively here they've looked the other way - probably because he's one of Tonga's best players. But players too have an obligation here, especially when it isn't physically obvious
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No way this is on Eli. The medical staff let him down here.
 
defensivebomb said:
Slightly controversial opinion here, but Katoa is partly responsible here

If you take a heavy hit to the head and don't tell someone you feel out of sorts, it makes the medical and coaching staff's jobs harder to do

Players are good about speaking up when they tweak their hammies. They also have a responsibility to ensure staff know what's going on upstairs

Obviously the medical and training staff have the main responsibility, and collectively here they've looked the other way - probably because he's one of Tonga's best players. But players too have an obligation here, especially when it isn't physically obvious
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The systems are in place to protect the player and the limited the liability of the organisation long term.
Players need to be protected from themselves.

The trainer was literally right there during the warm up - he didnt need Katoa to tell him what was going on upstairs, he was KO'd.
 
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