NRL Concussion/CTE

tyrael

tyrael

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Former Kiwis league player is NZ's first case of national rep with CTE

Calls for action as the silent killer haunts New Zealand's sporting community.
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Probably not someone I know since it's too early but also with Finucane retiring and we know about Egan's issues it's definitely should be talked about more.

I like the 11 day stand down period for those minor ones but what's happening with players who are actually knocked out. I find there are players that come back way too early and we'll soon see those players from the 80/90s ("hard men") who voice their personal experiences.
 
I just read there is research into heavy consumption of alcohol and CTE with sport playing alcoholics being over represented in the stats.

Traditionally many sports had a culture of heavy drinking. How much has been drunk after head knocks or with concussion and how much is this a factor in the CTE of past players coming out now?
 
MrFrankWhite said:
There really is no future of the game TBH. Both NRL / NFL will get sued out of existence at some point. 50 years maybe? I don't know, but at some point the music will stop and the party will be over.
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Interesting thought. I have considered the same. However that also depends on the political and social direction of the world fifty years from now.

People will adapt. If they have to ban contact sports, people will become passionate about the alternatives like say touch footy.

One day we will look back on the contact football and say how dumb was that?

Well we probably won't but our Grandchildren might.
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In a Far right political climate Business's like football organizations are likely to be prioritized over players lawsuits so.....at the core of this prediction the question over whether the world will be progressive in it's protection of the worker fifty years from now.
 
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Contact sports will need to become eventised like boxing, pretty bad for you getting punched in the head, but they don’t have a televised fight every Saturday for 9 straight months.

Union might be even worse than NRL for playing year round and heavy training when you don’t have a game, it’s so collision heavy at the moment, it’s easier to train a block of muscle and heavy bones to catch and pass than it is to get a smaller skillful player to take all that contact
 
On the Levels Podcast they talk about Cleary's HIA from the weekend.

They then discuss how the process works. It's interesting to hear about the baselines and the tests. Also a funny story of one player years ago being gassed and looking like they were concussed off so got taken off for an HIA category 1 and missed the following week.


View: https://youtu.be/i0n6qh3TcE0?t=2881
 
Christchurch_Warrior said:
1100 Rugby and Rugby League players in a concussion lawsuit in England.

Stuff

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Thanks, the smart mouth guard concept is compelling. Took a look thanks to this post.

The potential is there for these devices to force the Rugby sports to completely change the rules of the sport, 'potential' meaning at some future point when there is longitudinal data - ergo after years of data collection and long term studies of athletes brain health, a device like this could make a case that Rugby codes are just too dangerous in the current format period.

What I am alluding to is what I will call the 'lots of little hits' phenomena from the thousands of tackle impacts etc in a standard Rugby life time.

Like all new tech there will need to be an understanding that you shouldn't be over reliant on it.

For example, this thing measures movement and acceleration. A knee to the head of a stationary player therefore is one example of a head injury outside the parameters oft he device.



View: https://youtu.be/wvAwsxxtIk8?si=3ZqyWWgn0EkQXtw9
 
sup42 said:
Thanks, the smart mouth guard concept is compelling. Took a look thanks to this post.

The potential is there for these devices to force the Rugby sports to completely change the rules of the sport, 'potential' meaning at some future point when there is longitudinal data - ergo after years of data collection and long term studies of athletes brain health, a device like this could make a case that Rugby codes are just too dangerous in the current format period.

What I am alluding to is what I will call the 'lots of little hits' phenomena from the thousands of tackle impacts etc in a standard Rugby life time.

Like all new tech there will need to be an understanding that you shouldn't be over reliant on it.

For example, this thing measures movement and acceleration. A knee to the head of a stationary player therefore is one example of a head injury outside the parameters oft he device.



View: https://youtu.be/wvAwsxxtIk8?si=3ZqyWWgn0EkQXtw9
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I agree, technology is all well and good but has to be correctly analysed. As an example the bunker was brought in to correct on field decisions. A total diisaster in my view. Both codes need to be more proactive,they did it with shoulder charges,
 
MrFrankWhite said:
I made the comment a while back that the sport probably has a finite lifespan
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Good chance it gets litigated out of existence eventually because no league has the financial resources for these lawsuits and the precedents they'll set. The end is nigh by the look of that English case.
What do you think about NFL, do you see it going the same way in the states?
 
Worried2Death said:
Good chance it gets litigated out of existence eventually because no league has the financial resources for these lawsuits and the precedents they'll set. The end is nigh by the look of that English case.
What do you think about NFL, do you see it going the same way in the states?
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NFL has 32 Billionaire owners with an army of the best lawyers at their disposal, they'll outlast us.
 
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