Absolutely Wild. Claiming African Americans deserve less compensation because they had lower cognitive scores to start with, and tabling evidence to substantiate it.
They did drop this, but because of backlash, not due to errors of law or science .
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They did drop this, but because of backlash, not due to errors of law or science .
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Shane Christie, ex Highlander, Crusader, Tasman Mako & Māori All Black has reportedly taken his own life 
In recent times he's gone down the sovereign citizen rabbit hole but was a strong advocate for CTE research and support for retired players after his former team mate, Billy Guyton, took his life too in 2023
In recent times he's gone down the sovereign citizen rabbit hole but was a strong advocate for CTE research and support for retired players after his former team mate, Billy Guyton, took his life too in 2023
Or those sports exist but no player takes the field - even at schoolboy/girl level - until they sign a super-duper-tight legal waiver "I, as well as anyone in my immediate or extended family, will not initiate or be party to any legal action against this sport/sporting organisation for any permanent physical, emotional, mental or intellectual disability I suffer from playing this game within the rules that the ruling body of this sporting organisation put in place at any point in my career. Where permanent physical, emotional, mental or intellectual disability is found to exist due to any actions not within the existing rules of this sport as defined by the ruling body of this sporting organisation at any point in time during my careeer taken by me or any team-mate or opponent, the sporting organisation will not be legally liable."
And who's gonna sign that?
Or, who's gonna sign it but not read it? And then be very sad at some point in the future.
Mind you, to be frank, if you're playing sport professionally, you're not ever going to be invited to join Mensa...
In other words, there's no Cure For Every Cancer sitting on the interchange for the Wests Tigers wishing Jerome would break a leg so he could get some bloody game time!
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The Elephant | 'We need to stop hitting kids in the head': The call to ban youth contact sport
A growing international movement is calling for New Zealand to ban children under 14 from playing contact sports, amid mounting evidence of long-term brain damage.
What do you think about having a 5 person bench that can be used as you like as long as there are only 8 interchanges used like currently? HIA is a free change.
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I like this. Why not an unlimited number on the bench but only 8 interchanges. You could in theory have the whole NSW team waiting and if a player goes down you get a specialist in that position replacing them.
Takes injury out as a significant effect on the result and allows more tactical substitutions… very NFL feel.
Actually, use of the bench isn’t Websters strong point…
Making the low legs tackle relevant again. For me it is preventing the offload in both codes causibg a big part of this issue. On field refereeing has to reward a 1-1 low tackle and to stop 3rd man tackles. If you tackle high to stop offloads with 3 tacklers it does heighten the risk of head contact. There have always been concussions, I had a few. We are talking contact sports. However, rugby of whatever code has to vet away from the combat sport mentality primarily driven by media.
Egans has been knocked out a few times going lower and catching a hip.
We can try to limit it, but heads copping it is inevitable in a full contact sport.
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Egans problem was technique but this year injuries were limited as he was getting into a better/safer position. Hopefully this was because coaching staff assistance .
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I was replying in the Katoa thread but this is a bit more relevant here.
CTE would have been discovered about 20 years ago. I'll use that as a marker as I remember Chris Nowinski the retired pro wrestler who after retiring from a severe concussion starting researching head knocks and was part of the group that discovered it.
He asked Chris Benoit's father if he could study his sons brain after that tragedy. It help give him some explanation. That was in 2007. He was talking about it prior to that but besides a few incidents with ex NFL players doing crazy things, it wasn't reported on like it is now.
It's been known about for a long time. We have seen some great advancements in technology over the last 20 years. In terms of Health, it would be good to see cures for diseases that don't bankrupt you if you aren't wealthy.
Diagnosing CTE before death would be a great breakthrough. That would likely lead to forced retirement and likely a medical retirement payout, probably also lawsuits.
Unless they can discover it and reverse it. Early retirement to hold off more damage would be the likely path.
One thing I have seen that I don't agree with. There was a lawsuit with a retired rugby player, and his lawyer used "suspected CTE" as a defence. Court is supposed to be things you can prove or provide evidence for. If someone gets off on that defence, and they find out post-death he didn't have it. Where does that lead the victims?
Remember, you don't automatically get investigated for CTE when you die. The discoveries they have found have been people's brains that have been donated for the research or volunteered prior to them passig.
CTE would have been discovered about 20 years ago. I'll use that as a marker as I remember Chris Nowinski the retired pro wrestler who after retiring from a severe concussion starting researching head knocks and was part of the group that discovered it.
He asked Chris Benoit's father if he could study his sons brain after that tragedy. It help give him some explanation. That was in 2007. He was talking about it prior to that but besides a few incidents with ex NFL players doing crazy things, it wasn't reported on like it is now.
It's been known about for a long time. We have seen some great advancements in technology over the last 20 years. In terms of Health, it would be good to see cures for diseases that don't bankrupt you if you aren't wealthy.
Diagnosing CTE before death would be a great breakthrough. That would likely lead to forced retirement and likely a medical retirement payout, probably also lawsuits.
Unless they can discover it and reverse it. Early retirement to hold off more damage would be the likely path.
One thing I have seen that I don't agree with. There was a lawsuit with a retired rugby player, and his lawyer used "suspected CTE" as a defence. Court is supposed to be things you can prove or provide evidence for. If someone gets off on that defence, and they find out post-death he didn't have it. Where does that lead the victims?
Remember, you don't automatically get investigated for CTE when you die. The discoveries they have found have been people's brains that have been donated for the research or volunteered prior to them passig.
I was watching the Dallas Cowboys show on Netflix recently. That is set in the 90s. They were talking about standing down for concussions, feeling symptoms then.
If you looking at union and league in the 90s and 2000's we still had people shaking things off and getting back up and playing on.
We have come a long way but it does show how far behind we were.
If you looking at union and league in the 90s and 2000's we still had people shaking things off and getting back up and playing on.
We have come a long way but it does show how far behind we were.
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We had never heard or seen anything like this back in my playing days and yes all you smartarses I know I am old.
We didn't have concussion in my day....at least not that I can remember.....We had never heard or seen anything like this back in my playing days and yes all you smartarses I know I am old.
To be fair I'm now old. You're older.We had never heard or seen anything like this back in my playing days and yes all you smartarses I know I am old.
The thing with the NFL and concussions in the 90s. Even back then, NRL sides were occasionally going over there for research. Some training techniques would have been brought back, equipment brought following etc.
How much was looked at medically?
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And AFL -some of those head knocks hitting the ground are shocking.
They have a crew of CTE guys suicides mental illness.