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yeah he was talkative and a bit fried.
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I don't think the jury were to blame, I think Polkinghorne just had his legal team plant enough seeds of doubt with the case.
It was more a case of noting being able to find him guilty beyond reasonable doubt.
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The Crown were weak.
The rope for instance. I was not aware that Gravity and rope was brand dependent. The Crown prosecutor should have shut that down for the ridiculous argument that it was.
As if the brand or type of rope is going to have any bearing on the effects of gravity and the human body.
Also the Jury only need ask themselves. Why does a Doctor, or anyone for that matter make an attempt at a concealed web search for the effects of strangulation. There is no explaining away that search by him.
The police investigation was weak. They should have swabbed the knots of the rope for her dna, the absence of it, and likely finding of his dna on the knots would be crucial.
If the victims neck was not broken by the hanging, then why were there no signs of clawing at the rope as happens during airway obstruction.
Lastly the bruising from hanging vs strangulation is quite different and distinctive, it really feels as though the forensic case was seriously let down somewhere in the chain. Either in the gathering of evidence or the presenting of it in court, somewhere the Crown was weak (that rope argument was telling in terms of how weak the prosecutor was).
The rope for instance. I was not aware that Gravity and rope was brand dependent. The Crown prosecutor should have shut that down for the ridiculous argument that it was.
As if the brand or type of rope is going to have any bearing on the effects of gravity and the human body.
Also the Jury only need ask themselves. Why does a Doctor, or anyone for that matter make an attempt at a concealed web search for the effects of strangulation. There is no explaining away that search by him.
The police investigation was weak. They should have swabbed the knots of the rope for her dna, the absence of it, and likely finding of his dna on the knots would be crucial.
If the victims neck was not broken by the hanging, then why were there no signs of clawing at the rope as happens during airway obstruction.
Lastly the bruising from hanging vs strangulation is quite different and distinctive, it really feels as though the forensic case was seriously let down somewhere in the chain. Either in the gathering of evidence or the presenting of it in court, somewhere the Crown was weak (that rope argument was telling in terms of how weak the prosecutor was).
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I think they are proposing that she sat in a chair at the bottom of the balustrades with the rope being long enough for the person to reach the ground. His belt pattern matched the marks around her neck, so I presume they’re saying the belt was attached to the rope? That’s what I got from it and thought it an odd way of going about it. Another factor was the knot not sliding down the balustrades with the weight of the person hanging, so presume they’re saying she’s leaned in way in the chair to cut off air? Also even if that was to happen with him saying he was in the house, surely you’d hear the person choking?
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That's right, they had to concoct a bizarre new way to commit suicide to make his crime look like suicide.
Unfortunately people get distracted by salacious titillations like orgies and sex workers - even this show spent too much air time on the third party mistress.
Had the program makers merely mentioned her, and showed the facts of the wife's death - it could all have been made very clear in one episode.
The google search told all. He did it.
Been following this story with interest for a while now. Be interesting what the coroner decides...
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I found the podcast quite sad. I feel this case is definitely going to be a national enduring mystery for years.Been following this story with interest for a while now. Be interesting what the coroner decides...
'We helped them': New twist in Beckenridge disappearance case
The coroner is to hear from a new witness about missing pair Mike and John Beckenridge.
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She should have been in a forensic hospital for assessment.Stuff
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Must have been some real screws loose to stab your child. Makes you wonder if she was given some retribution in prison
She would have been isolated for a week minimum while the staff get a handle on the picture. She would also be monitored continuously when brought over to the main side (general population in lay terms).
Normally someone like her in the NZ system gets sent to Forensics by a judge for an initial two week period, then the Shrinks submit a report to the court - the judge makes a determination about the best place for them until they are scheduled or declared fit for trial.
The statement about found unresponsive is typically non committal, they use that phrase for Suicide also, it is a generic press statement.
Lots of pointers in this case to something being wayy off, but I don't want to speculate because it is distressing enough as it is.
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