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But how does a future peace deal look if Humas is a terrorist group, still has power in Palestine and still wants to destroy Isreal?

All good brokering a peace deal but what’s the long term look like?
You could virtually say the same about Israel. For now it's a ceasefire, at least until the IDF break that once again..
As for the future of Palestine, according to Trump it will be casinos and resorts. I believe there is a lot to play out yet, most concerning is Netanyahu's court case on corruption charges..
 

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Still waiting to hear from those on here who believed that Trump was the champion of "freedom of speech" and would "drain the swamp", "smashing the deep state"

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Does feee speech allow you to smash statues of famous people you don’t like? Graffiti political slogans onto buildings? Burn political texts? Spout hate speech? Free speech has boundaries…

Why is it free speech to burn a flag, which I imagine is highly offensive to most American people?

I hate Trump but to give him his dues he’s consistently patriotic about making America great again (love the flag and country) and this is what he campaigned on pre being elected.

For all he does wrong, he has a clear pro America ideology that the American voters have embraced.
 
Does feee speech allow you to smash statues of famous people you don’t like? Graffiti political slogans onto buildings? Burn political texts? Spout hate speech? Free speech has boundaries…

Why is it free speech to burn a flag, which I imagine is highly offensive to most American people?

I hate Trump but to give him his dues he’s consistently patriotic about making America great again (love the flag and country) and this is what he campaigned on pre being elected.

For all he does wrong, he has a clear pro America ideology that the American voters have embraced.
Oh so now free speech has boundaries? When the ideology you are so immersed in is called into question? Where has your outrage been when human rights are being trampled, when open misogyny, racism, hatred and bigotry are being spewed uncontrollably online and in person by those supposedly championing free rights?

Not only do you make shit up, you're an utter hypocrite.

i'll ask again. What are you defending? It seems you truly are as far right as you pretend to skirt around.
 
Oh so now free speech has boundaries? When the ideology you are so immersed in is called into question? Where has your outrage been when human rights are being trampled, when open misogyny, racism, hatred and bigotry are being spewed uncontrollably online and in person by those supposedly championing free rights?

Not only do you make shit up, you're an utter hypocrite.

i'll ask again. What are you defending? It seems you truly are as far right as you pretend to skirt around.
Huh? Free speech has always had responsibilities. It’s you that doesn’t think so, agreeing to anarchy and burning flags.

I’ve never defended Trump but I defend democracy and this is clearly aligned with the patriotic America that Americans voted for.

You’re sounding very anti-democracy just because you don’t like Trump. I don’t either but I think without getting blinded by emotion 🤷‍♂️
 
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Huh? Free speech has always had responsibilities.

What are you defending? Hate, violence and burning flags? I’ve never defended Trump but I defend democracy and this is clearly aligned with the patriotic America that Americans voted for.

You’re sounding very anti-democracy and blinded just because you don’t like Trump. I don’t either by I think without getting emotional 🤷‍♂️
The world is descending into fascism in front of you. Western democracy is being destroyed in front of you.

I feel a strong moral obligation to speak up against these forces. I know what's right and what's wrong, not what's right and what's left.

I also know you well enough. I will never forget you trying to frame the Christchurch shooter as somehow coming from the left for example.

Scoring points in some rugby league forum regardless of how much rubbish you have to make up seems more important to you. And yes I am emotional, so what. If you can't make a stand on what's happening right now, and also happening in our country too, when the fuck can or will you?

Recognising the same forces behind neoliberalism and far right politics that created these conditions are the same forces behind the growing fascism and purporting they're the saviours would be a good start. Speaking out about it, regardless of political persuasion is an even better start.
 
The world is descending into fascism in front of you. Western democracy is being destroyed in front of you.

I feel a strong moral obligation to speak up against these forces. I know what's right and what's wrong, not what's right and what's left.

I also know you well enough. I will never forget you trying to frame the Christchurch shooter as somehow coming from the left for example.

Scoring points in some rugby league forum regardless of how much rubbish you have to make up seems more important to you. And yes I am emotional, so what. If you can't make a stand on what's happening right now, and also happening in our country too, when the fuck can or will you?

Recognising the same forces behind neoliberalism and far right politics that created these conditions are the same forces behind the growing fascism and purporting they're the saviours would be a good start. Speaking out about it, regardless of political persuasion is an even better start.
I agree the US is stuffed. But not every thing Trump does is evil. Burning flags is a legitimate part of core MAGA ideology that voters embraced 🤷‍♂️

And again you’re blinded. The Christchurch shooter had a smorgasbords of ideology including far right and far left eco warriors views. But people that are blinded will only see accusations he was far left. You problem 🤷‍♂️

Ps… it’s not good to post emotionally all the time. It’s bad for your health mate. Lighten up and enjoy the debate. Trump will be gone one day and life will go on…
 
I agree the US is stuffed. But not every thing Trump does is evil. Burning flags is a legitimate part of core MAGA ideology that voters embraced 🤷‍♂️

And again you’re blinded. The Christchurch shooter had a smorgasbords of ideology including far right and far left eco warriors views. But people that are blinded will only see accusations he was far left. You problem 🤷‍♂️

Ps… it’s not good to post emotionally all the time. It’s bad for your health mate. Lighten up and enjoy the debate. Trump will be gone one day and life will go on…
The shooter was and is far right. Cut the bullshit
 
The shooter was and is far right. Cut the bullshit
Literally a White Supremacist who read and wrote his own version of Anders Breivik manifesto on race.

Wizards is a troll which is why I have him blocked.

I wasted hours trying to have logical discussion with him around Covid, when in reality there is no discussion - just agenda.

He spent two years asking exactly the same questions despite being provided with answers, which of course is down to his not reading your replies, what he does is skim the material and find ways to twist it.

He thinks it is clever to be obtuse, deliberately ignorant, he thinks being the contrarian makes him unique and special - a free thinker.

That would be tolerable were it not patently clear that his replies are so inconsistent that he doesn't actually believe half of what he posts, he just does it to get a rise out of people.

I won't speak to him because it is a complete waste of time, you can provide scientific evidence, or undeniable fact, and he enjoys ignoring that (even though he knows it is true) for the sake of indulging himself.

Like I say, he doesn't actually believe his own shit.

Tarrant is case and point. He fucken knows Tarrant is not a Left wing figure (eco Warrior views, who gives a shit, that's like saying Hitler was pro Jewish because he was protecting their bloodlines by separating them out from being diluted by German inter marriage).
 
Literally a White Supremacist who read and wrote his own version of Anders Breivik manifesto on race.

Wizards is a troll which is why I have him blocked.

I wasted hours trying to have logical discussion with him around Covid, when in reality there is no discussion - just agenda.

He spent two years asking exactly the same questions despite being provided with answers, which of course is down to his not reading your replies, what he does is skim the material and find ways to twist it.

He thinks it is clever to be obtuse, deliberately ignorant, he thinks being the contrarian makes him unique and special - a free thinker.

That would be tolerable were it not patently clear that his replies are so inconsistent that he doesn't actually believe half of what he posts, he just does it to get a rise out of people.

I won't speak to him because it is a complete waste of time, you can provide scientific evidence, or undeniable fact, and he enjoys ignoring that (even though he knows it is true) for the sake of indulging himself.

Like I say, he doesn't actually believe his own shit.

Tarrant is case in point. He fucken knows Tarrant is not a Left wing figure (eco Warrior views, who gives a shit, that's like saying Hitler was pro Jewish because he was protecting their bloodlines by separating them out from being diluted by German inter marriage).
Poor old Sup, not reading my posts and proving my point:
The Christchurch shooter had a smorgasbords of ideology including far right and far left eco warriors views. But people that are blinded will only see accusations he was far left.
🤷‍♂️
 
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