Politics 🤡 Donald Trump

[Noitall]

Trump’s claim that tariffs will bring manufacturing jobs back to America is nonsense. Relocating manufacturing for people like Apple or Toyota isn’t an overnight thing, it takes massive commitment and time. Why do that when you’d bank on the ignorant bastard either being gone in 4 years time or better still having far less power after next years mid term elections. If you are making clothes in Vietnam or Bangladesh, do you think you’d find enough Americans working on extremely low wages to churn out quality items? No chance

Added to this is Trump’s record of flip flopping on policy by the day and the idea he’s using tariffs not for economic reasons but to gain control over countries who are desperate (see his cack handed attempts to broker a ‘peace deal’ in Ukraine whilst trying to get his grubby mitts into mining rights.)

All this will change when enough Americans wake up to the reality of inflation or that the things they bought previously are no longer available. All for what? So a life long bully can play his games on a bigger stage than before is why.

One last thing. Applying tariffs to African countries who have f**k all and where previous American administrations had brought in policies to help the poor bastards out of poverty through manufacturing clothing is vindictiveness that is off the scale.

The politicians who are supporting Trump and metaphorically sucking him off should be run out of town as well.

One last, last thing. The reason why American car sales are low isn’t because of the tariffs he claims, it’s because design, build quality and reliability is light years behind Japanese, Korean and European cars.

Stuff

www.stuff.co.nz

Yanks rushing in to buy big ticket items before his tariffs kick in

 

[Hardyman's Yugo]

Stuff

www.stuff.co.nz

Yanks rushing in to buy big ticket items before his tariffs kick in

I’m not an economist but I wonder if that in itself will cause inflation, big short term demand

 

[BabylonPink]

Trump’s claim that tariffs will bring manufacturing jobs back to America is nonsense. Relocating manufacturing for people like Apple or Toyota isn’t an overnight thing, it takes massive commitment and time. Why do that when you’d bank on the ignorant bastard either being gone in 4 years time or better still having far less power after next years mid term elections. If you are making clothes in Vietnam or Bangladesh, do you think you’d find enough Americans working on extremely low wages to churn out quality items? No chance

Added to this is Trump’s record of flip flopping on policy by the day and the idea he’s using tariffs not for economic reasons but to gain control over countries who are desperate (see his cack handed attempts to broker a ‘peace deal’ in Ukraine whilst trying to get his grubby mitts into mining rights.)

All this will change when enough Americans wake up to the reality of inflation or that the things they bought previously are no longer available. All for what? So a life long bully can play his games on a bigger stage than before is why.

One last thing. Applying tariffs to African countries who have f**k all and where previous American administrations had brought in policies to help the poor bastards out of poverty through manufacturing clothing is vindictiveness that is off the scale.

The politicians who are supporting Trump and metaphorically sucking him off should be run out of town as well.

One last, last thing. The reason why American car sales are low isn’t because of the tariffs he claims, it’s because design, build quality and reliability is light years behind Japanese, Korean and European cars.

I sort of like the idea of countries or companies or whatever not being able to like go to Bangladesh and pay someone fuckall to make clothes that are then sold at enormous markups to us. But I guess a universal wage is just ridiculous in a world with too many people?

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

I sort of like the idea of countries or companies or whatever not being able to like go to Bangladesh and pay someone fuckall to make clothes that are then sold at enormous markups to us. But I guess a universal wage is just ridiculous in a world with too many people?

The reality is these countries will still make the items, they will be light years cheaper than American manufacturing and the American public will just pay more for the same imported things.

The only things this will help are marginal things America can make within 30% of Asian manufacturers. For most low cost items, American manufacturing would be 100% the cost.

Things will still need to be bought, American won’t be able to produce them competitively and Americans will have to pay more. No losers except the US consumer.

 

[BabylonPink]

The reality is these countries will still make the items, they will be light years cheaper than American manufacturing and the American public will just pay more for the same imported things.

The only things this will help are marginal things America can make within 30% of Asian manufacturers. For most low cost items, American manufacturing would be 100% the cost.

Things will still need to be bought, American won’t be able to produce them competitively and Americans will have to pay more. No losers except the US consumer.

Is it essentially a dare I say it " tax " on the American consumer? Like a GST?

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

Is it essentially a dare I say it " tax " on the American consumer? Like a GST?

Yes.

A GST only on imports to promote US.

What hasn’t been discussed is what happens to the HUGE govt tax bonanza!

 

[BabylonPink]

Yes.

A GST only on imports to promote US.

What hasn’t been discussed is what happens to the HUGE govt tax bonanza!

Sounds pretty socialist tax. Tariff sounds hard-core and masculine.
I guess he won't be redistributing said wealth to the average Joe but aye?

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

Sounds pretty socialist tax. Tariff sounds hard-core and masculine.
I guess he won't be redistributing said wealth to the average Joe but aye?

Imagine if Trump used the massive tax raised to pay for a public health system.

Wow!

Just thinking about it, this could be playing a trump (pun intended) card. Free healthcare that the other countries paid for (trump marketing thinking), just like Mexico paying for the wall.

Would cement him as a legendary president with a huge legacy, potentially give the people a massive life changing benefit (that the don’t realise how it’s funded and seemingly free) and confound and confuse the democrat haters. Boss play!

Such a smart move… no way he would ever think of it unfortunately. But that would be how he becomes one of the most famous presidents ever!

 

[Hardyman's Yugo]

Imagine if Trump used the massive tax raised to pay for a public health system.

Wow!

Just thinking about it, this could be playing a trump (pun intended) card. Free healthcare that the other countries paid for (trump marketing thinking), just like Mexico paying for the wall.

Would cement him as a legendary president with a huge legacy, potentially give the people a massive life changing benefit (that the don’t realise how it’s funded and seemingly free) and confound and confuse the democrat haters. Boss play!

Such a smart move… no way he would ever think of it unfortunately. But that would be how he becomes one of the most famous presidents ever!

Tax cuts for the mega rich is what he is after. He doesn’t give a monkeys about ordinary people

 

[MrFrankWhite]

Trump’s claim that tariffs will bring manufacturing jobs back to America is nonsense. Relocating manufacturing for people like Apple or Toyota isn’t an overnight thing, it takes massive commitment and time. Why do that when you’d bank on the ignorant bastard either being gone in 4 years time or better still having far less power after next years mid term elections. If you are making clothes in Vietnam or Bangladesh, do you think you’d find enough Americans working on extremely low wages to churn out quality items? No chance

Added to this is Trump’s record of flip flopping on policy by the day and the idea he’s using tariffs not for economic reasons but to gain control over countries who are desperate (see his cack handed attempts to broker a ‘peace deal’ in Ukraine whilst trying to get his grubby mitts into mining rights.)

All this will change when enough Americans wake up to the reality of inflation or that the things they bought previously are no longer available. All for what? So a life long bully can play his games on a bigger stage than before is why.

One last thing. Applying tariffs to African countries who have f**k all and where previous American administrations had brought in policies to help the poor bastards out of poverty through manufacturing clothing is vindictiveness that is off the scale.

The politicians who are supporting Trump and metaphorically sucking him off should be run out of town as well.

One last, last thing. The reason why American car sales are low isn’t because of the tariffs he claims, it’s because design, build quality and reliability is light years behind Japanese, Korean and European cars.

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I’m not an economist but I wonder if that in itself will cause inflation, big short term demand