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Damo said:
Buying a phone or ordering food doesn't mean you forfeit the right to advocate for better labor standards, corporate accountability, or green energy.
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no one but you said anything about forfeiting anything. That’s your argument not mine.
Damo said:
You're demanding that people live like monks in a cave before they're allowed to have an opinion on how society is run.
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I’m not demanding anything. I’m pointing out the stupidity. If you think billionaires are evil, why are you voluntarily giving them money?

Do you need to have an IPhone? Can you get a basic mobile phone?

Do you NEED to order uber eats for the 5th this week?

Do you need to post the 5th selfie to Instagram for the day?

Damo said:
It’s a textbook logical fallacy designed to avoid discussing the actual issue.
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No it’s your strawman which you are using to avoid engaging with the actual substance of my point.
 
Damo said:
Calling professional sports the 'far right' is hilarious if you actually look at how the many sports leagues are run. They use salary caps, equal sharing of broadcast revenues, and draft systems designed to actively prevent the richest teams from destroying the competition. It’s an intensely regulated ecosystem, not an unregulated free market.

As for meritocracy? Sure, performance matters. But wanting a fairer society doesn't mean you think competition shouldn't exist or that talented people shouldn't be rewarded.
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He didn’t call the leagues far right, he called the players that.

You’re really struggling with reading comprehension today.
 
MrFrankWhite said:
no one but you said anything about forfeiting anything. That’s your argument not mine.

I’m not demanding anything. I’m pointing out the stupidity. If you think billionaires are evil, why are you voluntarily giving them money?

Do you need to have an IPhone? Can you get a basic mobile phone?

Do you NEED to order uber eats for the 5th this week?

Do you need to post the 5th selfie to Instagram for the day?

No it’s your strawman which you are using to avoid engaging with the actual substance of my point.
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This logic falls apart the moment you apply it to anything else. If someone complains about high taxes or government waste, should they stop using public roads, hospitals, and parks? If they don't, are they hypocrites? Of course not.

You're trying to frame buying a phone or ordering food as an ideological endorsement of a billionaire. It’s not.
 
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Damo said:
This logic falls apart the moment you apply it to anything else. If someone complains about high taxes or government waste, should they stop using public roads, hospitals, and parks? If they don't, are they hypocrites? Of course not.
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Yet another strawman. Roads, govt and hospitals are necessities not owned by billionaires.
 
MrFrankWhite said:
Yes it is. If it wasn’t, these wouldn’t exist.

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I agree. There are a few individuals that have changed society for the better. They are mostly American and there success is mostly due to individualism and capitalism.

Not just tech but healthcare, space exploration, EV’s, solar panels, etc.

You can’t say we don’t want the successful people (driven by profit) but we want their successful products.

It’s the allocation of investment backing success to drive more success that’s the core reason we have these society changing products and also mega wealth individuals.
 
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