And we tell that woke government to fuck off if they to ban them. Ok whatever brother. Old franky boys right though, apparently this does refer to far right
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They appropriated the old Roman gesture for "ok whatever". Anyway mate, my heart goes out to you, ok whatever.And we tell that woke government to fuck off if they to ban them. Ok whatever brother. Old franky boys right though, apparently this does refer to far right
A great listen
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Voice of the Sea Ice: Changing times
If sea ice has entered a new regime, what does that mean for Antarctica, and for us?
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So funny, socialist radio promotes the socialist lie of man made climate change.A great listen
Voice of the Sea Ice: Changing times
If sea ice has entered a new regime, what does that mean for Antarctica, and for us?
"Scientist say" that after looking at data for 47 years the ice extent on a planet 3.8 billion years old is the worst it has ever been.
Let's put that in terms that are easier to understand. If the planet had been around for one day (24h) then these "scientists" are making claims based on data collected during the last 1/1000th of a second.
But actually we have sat data for the last 60 years, I wonder where the other 13 years went? Don't tell me... the dust bin of ignored data that doesn't fit the narrative.
But won't somebody think of the Penguins.
Ha! They must be so relived to be able to find another cute victim after the polar bear BS blew up in their faces.
Blah blah disinformation rabbithole conspiracy theory blah blah.
You have convinced me that 47 years is exactly the right time period.
I compliment you on the sound scientific reasoning in your response.
Cleverly laying out the facts to support your argument and then drawing your conclusions.
Thats it, I am on board the climate band wagon….Not
Ha! I crack me up.
Let me propose another possibility that is supported by facts.
47 Years ago was the end of the great global cooling scare, remember Time magazine in 1972 “the coming ice age”.
If you choose your data set carefully, 47 years ago in this case, it makes the trend all downhill.
Sadly this sort of data manipulation, cherry picking as it is sometimes called, is now rife in the scientific community. Rutherford called it stamp collecting.
The scientific method has morphed into a process where data is selected to support the desired outcome.
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blah blah don't believe in science blah blah disinformation blah blah conspiracy theories blah blahYou have convinced me that 47 years is exactly the right time period.
I compliment you on the sound scientific reasoning in your response.
Cleverly laying out the facts to support your argument and then drawing your conclusions.
Thats it, I am on board the climate band wagon….Not
Ha! I crack me up.
Let me propose another possibility that is supported by facts.
47 Years ago was the end of the great global cooling scare, remember Time magazine in 1972 “the coming ice age”.
If you choose your data set carefully, 47 years ago in this case, it makes the trend all downhill.
Sadly this sort of data manipulation, cherry picking as it is sometimes called, is now rife in the scientific community. Rutherford called it stamp collecting.
The scientific method has morphed into a process where data is selected to support the desired outcome.
I am reminded of Max Planck and his statement "science advances one funeral at a time”. Sadly things have only deteriorated over the last 75 years, science now regresses one torch and pitchfork wielding mob at a time.
"Oooh Max" -Agent 99
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Goebbels’ propaganda making manual: “Accuse your enemies in what you are guilty of”.
Except for countries like NZ, EV's aren't the answer to climate change.
Electric vehicle (EV) adoption globally is likely doing more harm than good when it comes to CO2 emissions, according to a study by researchers from the University of Auckland and Xiamen University in China.
The study, using data from 26 countries over 15 years, found higher EV uptake was linked to increased global emissions.
Despite the narrative often proclaimed from a moral mound by proponents and proprietors, EVs have never been the answer to our climate change crisis.
Now it’s proven their belief to be bogus, with the study showing EV drivers may indirectly be contributing to higher emissions than drivers of modern petrol or diesel vehicles.
This is also before other factors are included such as the increased energy needed during the EV manufacturing process, largely due to battery production.
“Electric vehicles are often seen as a silver bullet for climate change, but our results show that’s not the case if the electricity powering them isn’t clean,” Auckland University Associate Professor Stephen Poletti said.
As many readers will know, the truth is in most countries EVs are powered by electricity generated from burning fossil fuels like coal or oil.
And with an increased EV uptake in recent years, electricity consumption from these sources has risen.
The study also suggested that only when the global share of renewable electricity generation reaches 48% will EVs help reduce emissions. Currently that generation sits at 30%.
So, a wee ways to go yet.
New Zealand, however, is well-placed and has more than 80% of this electricity coming from renewable sources.
Through some good planning and frankly geographical luck, we can be one of a handful of countries to reap the benefits of EVs.
There is of course a caveat to this, our renewable energy is only as good as its reliability. And this winter, once again, we are going to test that reliability.
Genesis Energy has already said it is adding more coal to its stockpile and may start up a third gas-fired Rankine unit at its Huntly Power Station.
The company said it anticipates 630 kilotonnes (kt) of coal being sent down to the Waikato town between now and September 2025, in addition to the current stockpile of 515kt.
That’s a lot more coal set to be burned behind the famous Deka sign.
Power prices, meanwhile, have been steadily rising this year in response to dry conditions and lower levels in the key hydro lakes.
The big four electricity generators – Meridian, Genesis, Mercury and Contact – are now considering market options to improve national security of supply.
We will continue to use more and more electricity - economic growth increases emissions.
Let’s put to bed the idea that EVs were the panacea and decarbonise through green technology innovation.
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New Zealand is well-placed despite an inconvenient truth for those on the moral EV mound – Editorial
An inconvenient truth was published this week.Electric vehicle (EV) adoption globally is likely doing more harm than good when it comes to CO2 emissions, according to a study by researchers from the University of Auckland and Xiamen University in China.
The study, using data from 26 countries over 15 years, found higher EV uptake was linked to increased global emissions.
Despite the narrative often proclaimed from a moral mound by proponents and proprietors, EVs have never been the answer to our climate change crisis.
Now it’s proven their belief to be bogus, with the study showing EV drivers may indirectly be contributing to higher emissions than drivers of modern petrol or diesel vehicles.
This is also before other factors are included such as the increased energy needed during the EV manufacturing process, largely due to battery production.
“Electric vehicles are often seen as a silver bullet for climate change, but our results show that’s not the case if the electricity powering them isn’t clean,” Auckland University Associate Professor Stephen Poletti said.
As many readers will know, the truth is in most countries EVs are powered by electricity generated from burning fossil fuels like coal or oil.
And with an increased EV uptake in recent years, electricity consumption from these sources has risen.
The study also suggested that only when the global share of renewable electricity generation reaches 48% will EVs help reduce emissions. Currently that generation sits at 30%.
So, a wee ways to go yet.
New Zealand, however, is well-placed and has more than 80% of this electricity coming from renewable sources.
Through some good planning and frankly geographical luck, we can be one of a handful of countries to reap the benefits of EVs.
There is of course a caveat to this, our renewable energy is only as good as its reliability. And this winter, once again, we are going to test that reliability.
Genesis Energy has already said it is adding more coal to its stockpile and may start up a third gas-fired Rankine unit at its Huntly Power Station.
The company said it anticipates 630 kilotonnes (kt) of coal being sent down to the Waikato town between now and September 2025, in addition to the current stockpile of 515kt.
That’s a lot more coal set to be burned behind the famous Deka sign.
Power prices, meanwhile, have been steadily rising this year in response to dry conditions and lower levels in the key hydro lakes.
The big four electricity generators – Meridian, Genesis, Mercury and Contact – are now considering market options to improve national security of supply.
We will continue to use more and more electricity - economic growth increases emissions.
Let’s put to bed the idea that EVs were the panacea and decarbonise through green technology innovation.
Editorial: An inconvenient truth for those on the moral EV mound
OPINION: We can be one of a handful of countries to reap the benefits of EVs.
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