Social Wrighty's Player Agent Rules Baselined

Could forfeited players perhaps go into a final round that everyone other than the person who forfeited get to bid on if they choose to? That would potentially be a good enough disadvantage?
This gives me the heebie jeebies. My young 11 year old step brother always landed on free parking and would win $2000 and win the game. What I am saying in Wrighty language is that at the end of the game probable only 5-6 contestants will have cash left and can get elite player X worth $2.7M for $1M and win the game. It is not fair on the other players who did nothing wrong. But we can talk more about other options tomorrow it is getting close to Defence posting the Good night kiwi jpeg again here in Upper Hutt.
 

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What about if u refuse Hodges requests that player can ask to be traded and then the other contestants all get the chance to nominate a player to trade.
The contestant then has to pick one of those trades or forfeit that player and half their salary?
Does that make sense?
Hmmm....breaks Wrighty's keep it simple rule. But admire the creativity. There might be something there if we rejig your idea somewhat. Let's kick this around tomorrow. Time for Good night Kiwi theme song.
 
Hmmm....breaks Wrighty's keep it simple rule. But admire the creativity. There might be something there if we rejig your idea somewhat. Let's kick this around tomorrow. Time for Good night Kiwi theme song.
Hodges could make his request and the contestant has until the end of that days voting to comply or put his player into that nights draft.
A player swap would need to be confirmed before the next round starts or that player is released and paid out x percentage of his salary.
Just another way to keep the game ticking over at night after the days play.
Just spitballing- all good if that’s getting a bit too complicated.
 
Hodges could make his request and the contestant has until the end of that days voting to comply or put his player into that nights draft.
A player swap would need to be confirmed before the next round starts or that player is released and paid out x percentage of his salary.
Just another way to keep the game ticking over at night after the days play.
Just spitballing- all good if that’s getting a bit too complicated.
Kia ora Defence

I don't support player swaps or trades as being a part of this game. They tend to benefit the two parties involved but the other contestants get left behind somewhat. For trades to be a part of the game there would need to be ubiquitous trading where everyone is doing it so everyone gets to benefit from trading - rather than there only be two or three trades all game long.

Your other idea about the player forfeited being put into the next day's draft interests me. That could be an extra penalty in a way. Not only do you forfeit the player but player X goes into the next days draft so your competitor gets to have him and not you personally, since you forfeited him, you are not allowed to bid on him. I think that adds a bit more of a penalty than only forfeiting the player, is FOMO the right term the youngsters say these days?

Regarding Wizards idea of a handling fee I don't favour this unless it is really low like $50,000 otherwise you are impacting the fines tajhay would charge. Tajhay would know you either pay his fee or play a handling fee of $200,000 so he is going to make all his fees over $200,000 which is starting to get prescriptive and takes away from tajhay's degrees of freedom to use a mathematics term.

Regarding tajhay's ideas
If I read correctly that they not be allowed to purchase another Hodges player if they forfeit one. What do other people think of this? My knee jerk reaction is that it is a bit stiff of a penalty however from the Hodges agency perspective this is what would happen in real life if you didn't cooperate with them. What are people's thoughts on this? Or alternatively Tajhay mentioned being stricter on you in the future on any other players you acquire maybe that is a better compromise although less consistent and transparent in its application.

My Recommendations
You can say no to a Hodges Agency ultimatum with the following consequences
1) You Forfeit the player
2) You get all your money back
3) There is no transaction or handling fee
4) The player goes into the draft the next day regardless of what letters are up for grabs. You may not bid on him or acquire him.
5) You are still allowed to acquire future Hodges players but Chris Hodges has a memory and may be stiffer on you in the future.
6) If condition 4 happens the new owner MUST accept the penalty with no opt out. Potential bidders should mentally prepare for the penalty and be willing to accept it. If the penalty was heavily customised to the previous owner then Chris Hodges will re-customise a similar penalty for the new owner and the new bidders will have an idea of the type of penalty to expect.

The penalties are threefold
You forfeit the player, someone else gets player X instead of you the next day, and Chris Hodges is cross with you.
 
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Kia ora Defence

I don't support player swaps or trades as being a part of this game. They tend to benefit the two parties involved but the other contestants get left behind somewhat. For trades to be a part of the game there would need to be ubiquitous trading where everyone is doing it so everyone gets to benefit from trading - rather than there only be two or three trades all game long.

Your other idea about the player forfeited being put into the next day's draft interests me. That could be an extra penalty in a way. Not only do you forfeit the player but player X goes into the next days draft so your competitor gets to have him and not you personally, since you forfeited him, you are not allowed to bid on him. I think that adds a bit more of a penalty than only forfeiting the player, is FOMO the right term the youngsters say these days?

Regarding Wizards idea of a handling fee I don't favour this unless it is really low like $50,000 otherwise you are impacting the fines tajhay would charge. Tajhay would know you either pay his fee or play a handling fee of $200,000 so he is going to make all his fees over $200,000 which is starting to get prescriptive and takes away from tajhay's degrees of freedom to use a mathematics term.

Regarding tajhay's ideas
If I read correctly that they not be allowed to purchase another Hodges player if they forfeit one. What do other people think of this? My knee jerk reaction is that it is a bit stiff of a penalty however from the Hodges agency perspective this is what would happen in real life if you didn't cooperate with them. What are people's thoughts on this? Or alternatively Tajhay mentioned being stricter on you in the future on any other players you acquire maybe that is a better compromise although less consistent and transparent in its application.

My Recommendations
You can say no to a Hodges Agency ultimatum with the following consequences
1) You Forfeit the player
2) You get all your money back
3) There is no transaction or handling fee
4) The player goes into the draft the next day regardless of what letters are up for grabs. You may not bid on him or acquire him.
5) You are still allowed to acquire future Hodges players but Chris Hodges has a memory and may be stiffer on you in the future.

The penalties are threefold
You forfeit the player, someone else gets player X instead of you the next day, and Chris Hodges is cross with you.
Perfect solution
 
You can say no to a Hodges Agency ultimatum with the following consequences
1) You Forfeit the player
2) You get all your money back
3) There is no transaction or handling fee
4) The player goes into the draft the next day regardless of what letters are up for grabs. You may not bid on him or acquire him.
5) You are still allowed to acquire future Hodges players but Chris Hodges has a memory and may be stiffer on you in the future.

The penalties are threefold
You forfeit the player, someone else gets player X instead of you the next day, and Chris Hodges is cross with you.
If 4 takes place, does the purchasing player inherit the Hodges ultimatum conditions that triggered the forfeit?
 
If 4 takes place, does the purchasing player inherit the Hodges conditions that triggered the transfer?
Let's say yes - they need to mentally accept they will get that penalty before they place a bid on Player X.

The other alternatives are too messy. e.g Chris Hodges imposes a new penalty and that also gets declined and Player X gets bounced two days in a row.

I will adjust my post above.
 
6) If condition 4 happens the new owner MUST accept the penalty with no opt out. Potential bidders should mentally prepare for the penalty and be willing to accept it. If the penalty was heavily customised to the previous owner then Chris Hodges will re-customise a new penalty for the new owner and the new bidders will have an idea of the type of penalty to expect.
 
6) If condition 4 happens the new owner MUST accept the penalty with no opt out. Potential bidders should mentally prepare for the penalty and be willing to accept it. If the penalty was heavily customised to the previous owner then Chris Hodges will re-customise a new penalty for the new owner and the new bidders will have an idea of the type of penalty to expect.
I’m already starting to not like this Hodges guy

I’m looking forward to a great and productive relationship with that great guy Hodges.
 
6) If condition 4 happens the new owner MUST accept the penalty with no opt out. Potential bidders should mentally prepare for the penalty and be willing to accept it. If the penalty was heavily customised to the previous owner then Chris Hodges will re-customise a new penalty for the new owner and the new bidders will have an idea of the type of penalty to expect.
Im not sure of the word penalty here. If say team A bids on player x, and refuses to pay 'penalty' by making him captain due to xyz. He then goes to draft, player x may now be teammates with a close friend, or his former club captain so his "penalty' will be diff, and could infact be positive...

Consider them all as customised
 
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Im not sure of the word penalty here. If say team A bids on player x, and refuses to pay 'penalty' by making him captain due to xyz. He then goes to draft, player x may now be teammates with a close friend, or his former club captain so his "penalty' will be diff, and could infact be positive...

Consider them all as customised
I want to avoid two declines in a row and ensure the new bidders the next day are mentally prepared to accept your customised offer be it a penalty or a benevolent gift. So in these cases of a recycled player X being put on the market again the next day could you make an intention of making the intervention somewhat similar, if possible, to the first intervention, and if that isn't possible then making the net impact of it similar if that makes sense? I am only expecting 1 or 2 of these cases to come up in the game so these cases would be exceptions. I am basically agreeing with you and happy with what you are saying and I suspect we are in agreement based on what you have written but if this works for you would you be able to thumbs up? By creating some predictability for the re-draft it means everyone who bids knows what they are committing to and won't back out.
 
Question should I mandate a rule you need a goal kicker? or let the voters take that into account in the voting?
 
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