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Wrighty · Sep 17, 2025

@tajhay I will add a minor rule, that as there are 12 rounds, at the conclusion of the final round the game will end and the last round for Hodges ultimatums will be the second to last round, at the end of round 11.
Anyone can let me know if any concerns or questions with that rule. It simplifies the finish line of the game.

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Mr. Brownstone · Sep 17, 2025

wizard of Tauranga said:
Hey, when we look at the Wrighty game hall of fame, just remember my names at the top as the first ever winner

Yes & was it also a team of surnames beginning with W you created one year?

wizard of Tauranga · Sep 17, 2025

Mr. Brownstone said:
Yes & was it also a team of surnames beginning with W you created one year?

Letter J!

Some of us play 4D chess while others play snakes and ladders

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Mr. Brownstone · Sep 17, 2025

wizard of Tauranga said:
Letter J!

Some of us play 4D chess while others play snakes and ladders

The snakes & ladders hasn’t worked out too well for you since your debut season aye…

Wrighty · Sep 17, 2025

Defence · Sep 17, 2025

tajhay said:
I reserve the right to request team name changes as well should you select my players theres a few more id rather not say at this point.

Do you guys get to choose coaches? I have two fine coaches Stephen Kearney and Anthony Seilol available. Any team who takes them can expect favours

Tell me more about this Seilol bloke…

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Defence · Sep 17, 2025

wizard of Tauranga said:
Letter J!

Some of us play 4D chess while others play snakes and ladders

That was wild- biggest plot twist since the usual suspects.

Wrighty · Sep 18, 2025

Are people ok with a minimum bid of $200,000 last year it was only $100,000. But the bidding dynamics were different last year.

Mr. Brownstone · Monday at 6:22 PM

Hey @Wrighty re the rules around picking a couple of letters each round, I’m a bit concerned that we’ll end up with quite inconsistent numbers of trade relevant players. For example surnames beginning with the letter R is in the top tier however there isn’t a single name in the top 50 list that begin with R. Just wondering if there are some solutions to ensuring each of us have a fair crack at good players when we have the extra coin as round master?

I guess extending this a little - are surnames the best option? I always enjoyed a round master coming up with some random criteria where it wasn’t always immediately obvious who qualified. Obviously it’s open bidding this time, however could still be cool if someone presents a trade close to 6pm that others hadn’t thought of, however unlikely that would be.

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wizard of Tauranga · Monday at 8:13 PM

Have we started yet? 25% of my cap on Reece Walsh.

Mr. Brownstone · Monday at 8:19 PM

wizard of Tauranga said:
Have we started yet? 25% of my cap on Reece Walsh.

Ssshhh! A few on here don’t watch games not involving the Warriors, they might not have heard he’s any good

Wrighty · Monday at 8:32 PM

Mr. Brownstone said:
Hey @Wrighty re the rules around picking a couple of letters each round, I’m a bit concerned that we’ll end up with quite inconsistent numbers of trade relevant players. For example surnames beginning with the letter R is in the top tier however there isn’t a single name in the top 50 list that begin with R. Just wondering if there are some solutions to ensuring each of us have a fair crack at good players when we have the extra coin as round master?

I guess extending this a little - are surnames the best option? I always enjoyed a round master coming up with some random criteria where it wasn’t always immediately obvious who qualified. Obviously it’s open bidding this time, however could still be cool if someone presents a trade close to 6pm that others hadn’t thought of, however unlikely that would be.

I hear you - and I pondered the game set up a lot. I felt we need a change from the round master setting the criteria so went with letters this time, If letters are too problematic yes we can change. But want to talk it thoroughly through first

Have you thoroughly absorbed the rules is the first thing I want to check on. There is no X and Z. We are playing with 24 letters and those are excluded. Secondly I asked chat GPT to create a pool A and a Pool B of letters. Pool A is the most common 12 letters for surnames for NRL players in the last 20 years. Not necessarily the top 100 just any NRL player as I figured there would be a correlation between common NRL names and good players with those names. Pool B is the least common 12 letters.
You must pick one letter from Pool A and one from Pool B. The idea is that all the round masters are guaranteed to get one Pool A letter. And there should be some type of pickings there for them to get somebody.
Remember it is not just the top 50 that matter but also drafting people from the 2025 season so even if your Pool A letter has no one in the top 50 there will surely be someone good or handy from the 2025 season.

The round master bonus is 500 000 you can realistically use that to get 2 players at most. So there doesn't need to be a huge ramge of choices for at least the round master to come away with something,

So if you can please come back and respond with the short comings of the pool A and pool B concept that would help commence the conversation,

The other thing I have wondered is whether first names would be better than last names.

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Mr. Brownstone · 2025-10-07T11:32:43+1300

Wrighty said:
I hear you - and I pondered the game set up a lot. I felt we need a change from the round master setting the criteria so went with letters this time, If letters are too problematic yes we can change. But want to talk it thoroughly through first

Have you thoroughly absorbed the rules is the first thing I want to check on. There is no X and Z. We are playing with 24 letters and those are excluded. Secondly I asked chat GPT to create a pool A and a Pool B of letters. Pool A is the most common 12 letters for surnames for NRL players in the last 20 years. Not necessarily the top 100 just any NRL player as I figured there would be a correlation between common NRL names and good players with those names. Pool B is the least common 12 letters.
You must pick one letter from Pool A and one from Pool B. The idea is that all the round masters are guaranteed to get one Pool A letter. And there should be some type of pickings there for them to get somebody.
Remember it is not just the top 50 that matter but also drafting people from the 2025 season so even if your Pool A letter has no one in the top 50 there will surely be someone good or handy from the 2025 season.

The round master bonus is 500 000 you can realistically use that to get 2 players at most. So there doesn't need to be a huge ramge of choices for at least the round master to come away with something,

So if you can please come back and respond with the short comings of the pool A and pool B concept that would help commence the conversation,

The other thing I have wondered is whether first names would be better than last names.

Yeah look it’s nothing to die in a ditch over however when I started to have a think about players I noticed there was a bit grouping in certain letters - I reckon roughly half of the best 100 eligible players are spread across just 4 letters, and I think thats probably too concentrated. Then the 5th most concentrated letter for top names sits outside the top tier. So we could conceivably see the game very advanced after only 4 rounds. I’d rather see it develop more evenly across all the days of the comp, so that it’s just as interesting on day 12 in terms of trade opportunities as it is day 1, or at least not that far off.

I also think ‘names beginning with’ as the criteria is a bit lame. Something like clubs players debuted with or played the most games with would in my opinion be a lot more fun, perhaps with a final round where all remaining teams get lumped in together for a final round trading bonanza. Would add a whole lot of additional strategy around not spending all your coin early.

Wrighty · 2025-10-07T12:31:58+1300

Mr. Brownstone said:
Yeah look it’s nothing to die in a ditch over however when I started to have a think about players I noticed there was a bit grouping in certain letters - I reckon roughly half of the best 100 eligible players are spread across just 4 letters, and I think thats probably too concentrated. Then the 5th most concentrated letter for top names sits outside the top tier. So we could conceivably see the game very advanced after only 4 rounds. I’d rather see it develop more evenly across all the days of the comp, so that it’s just as interesting on day 12 in terms of trade opportunities as it is day 1, or at least not that far off.

I also think ‘names beginning with’ as the criteria is a bit lame. Something like clubs players debuted with or played the most games with would in my opinion be a lot more fun, perhaps with a final round where all remaining teams get lumped in together for a final round trading bonanza. Would add a whole lot of additional strategy around not spending all your coin early.

17 teams you could debut with equals 17 rounds we have 12 players
Tajhay could sponsor the final 5 rounds
But 17 rounds is more than we have ever had before
We could have a bonanza round at the end like you say where we do the last 4 clubs all at once but that favours too much people who saved their money
I am largely on board to changing to “each round master nominates a debut club team” and tajhay does a bonanza round at the end where he perhaps picks two or three teams. For example when it comes to tajhay there will be 5 teams left which is too many so he picks 2 or 3 and we just don’t draft at all from the teams tajhay did not pick, this will leave some good players not taken but we could ask tajhay to pick 2 or 3 strong teams and leave out the ones with the weakest pickings.
Whether it is 2 or 3 he picks we can discuss

That is my return of serve to you as we bounce this around

Mr. Brownstone · 2025-10-07T13:23:15+1300

Wrighty said:
17 teams you could debut with equals 17 rounds we have 12 players
Tajhay could sponsor the final 5 rounds
But 17 rounds is more than we have ever had before
We could have a bonanza round at the end like you say where we do the last 4 clubs all at once but that favours too much people who saved their money
I am largely on board to changing to “each round master nominates a debut club team” and tajhay does a bonanza round at the end where he perhaps picks two or three teams. For example when it comes to tajhay there will be 5 teams left which is too many so he picks 2 or 3 and we just don’t draft at all from the teams tajhay did not pick, this will leave some good players not taken but we could ask tajhay to pick 2 or 3 strong teams and leave out the ones with the weakest pickings.
Whether it is 2 or 3 he picks we can discuss

That is my return of serve to you as we bounce this around

I like the idea of only including a selection of the remaining teams in the final round - no guarantee a player you’ve been holding out for is included, & shouldn’t necessarily be the strongest remaining sides. Whether it would be debut, most games played for, or some other criteria, just something that smoothes out the trades a bit I reckon.

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Warriors55 · 2025-10-07T13:36:15+1300

I can see the merit in changing letters to debuted at club but I actually still prefer letters.

Does it really matter if a lot of names begin with 4 or 5 letters. It just means that on rounds with undesirable letters people will have to bid higher to get the few good options with that letter or even some teams will end up having weaker players because they didn't bid higher for the better players and had to take on a sub par player if it is one of the later rounds and they need to buy more players. Yes the roundmaster will have an advantage in those rounds but that is part of the game and means the roundmaster has to be very tactical with their choice of letters. That creates a different aspect of the game.

But I am happy with whatever is decided on.

Wrighty · 2025-10-07T17:22:19+1300

The advantage of letters is that 100 percent of the players will come up in the 12 rounds

If we kept letters instead of a pool a and a pool b of letters
I could or we could pick 12 pairs of letters strategically placed into pairs
Let’s say there is the big four letters and 5th not too far behind
Those 5 letters could be paired with the 5 worst letters
Therefore the next best 5 letters after the top 5 would be listed with the some other average letters
So as round master you can either pick a pairing if a gun letter paired with a poor letter or you could pick a pair that has two average letters

I am still also wondering if first names works better I will look into that tonight

What do other people think ?
Do they like club debuts or letters

I kind of prefer letters as it simplifies the research time and relies more on the best strategist winning than the best researcher

However other thoughts ??

Wrighty · 2025-10-07T18:40:47+1300

Here is the Hodges top 50 analysed by letter

Counts by last-name initial (A → Z)

Letter	Count
A	0
B	6
C	6
D	1
E	1
F	0
G	3
H	2
I	0
J	2
K	2
L	3
M	6
N	0
O	0
P	3
Q	0
R	0
S	4
T	5
U	0
V	0
W	3
X	0
Y	0
Z	0

Total = 50

Counts by first-name initial (A → Z)

Letter	Count
A	3
B	9
C	5
D	3
E	0
F	0
G	2
H	1
I	0
J	6
K	0
L	1
M	3
N	2
O	0
P	3
Q	0
R	0
S	4
T	5
U	0
V	0
W	3
X	0
Y	0
Z	0

Total = 50

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Mr. Brownstone · 2025-10-07T18:44:27+1300

Wrighty said:
Here is the Hodges top 50 analysed by letter

Counts by last-name initial (A → Z)

Letter Count
A 0
B 6
C 6
D 1
E 1
F 0
G 3
H 2
I 0
J 2
K 2
L 3
M 6
N 0
O 0
P 3
Q 0
R 0
S 4
T 5
U 0
V 0
W 3
X 0
Y 0
Z 0

Total = 50

Counts by first-name initial (A → Z)

Letter Count
A 3
B 9
C 5
D 3
E 0
F 0
G 2
H 1
I 0
J 6
K 0
L 1
M 3
N 2
O 0
P 3
Q 0
R 0
S 4
T 5
U 0
V 0
W 3
X 0
Y 0
Z 0

Total = 50

Think that’s not quite accurate mate, no F for Fittler, not sure if anything else

Wrighty · 2025-10-07T19:18:01+1300

The first table was chat gpt - here is my hand tally

Left hand column first name right hand column last names

First Names		Last Names
A	3	A
B	10	B	7
C	5	C	4
D	3	D
E	E	1
F	F	3
G	2	G	4
H	1	H	4
I	I	1
J	6	J	2
K	K	2
L	1	L	3
M	3	M	5
N	2	N
O	O
P	3	P	3
Q	Q
R	3	R
S	7	S	4
T	2	T	5
U	U
V	V
W	W	3
X	X
Y	Y
Z	Z

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