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    giffy said:
    I’d rather Webster not become the next Geoff Toovey. I believe these matters are better addressed in private between club and NRL (which they are). It’s a far more professional way to behave while traditional and social media will always provide criticism for a howler anyway.

    The only group missing out are the fans who feel like they are without retribution, which I concede..

    Food for thought: Looking back a few years, at the time I found the following incident hilarious and satisfying, now I find it closer to cringeworthy: https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/leagu...-whistle-warriors-boss-wants-rowdy-home-crowd
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    I would bet money that the club is already doing that. The issue with doing it behind closed doors is that the NRL doesn't need to do shit. I am not worried about dud calls as all clubs get those or even conscious or unconscious bias . My post is about where illegal shit happens to our players. That needs to be aired publicly as the NRL may actually do something if we are loud about how our players are not protected. All the HIA protocols that the NRL brought in would not have been about player safety. It would have been about protecting the NRL legally. If you are publicly airing that the NRL is not protecting your players they will listen.

    What we saw was a fucken lunatic breaking his own jaw so he could put a late hit on TMM. If he had been penalised or better yet sent off in the game you can be guaranteed that the coaches will make sure that players don't do that. Now if it is 10 minutes to got and the score is level it is a free for all on our players. But hey lets take it behind closed door because that will work like never. Fuck me the club has got to get tougher. We keep the NRL going over COVID but the NRL will not even protect our players.
     
    I need to vent. Andrew Webster needs to grow a pair of balls and stop with the shit about not seeing a high and late tackle. I know he wants to build a culture where the players do not blame the refs for the results. I get that but where a player is hit late and high where one of the players broke their jaw due to the force of the hit he needs to stand up and say enough. If nothing is said nothing is done. We will just see the same shit where our players get targeted because the NRL will not protect our players.
    Political pricks like Annesley will never do the right thing. He will just mouth what the NRL wants to hear. Andrew needs to stand up and get a reputation for protecting his players. Doesn't matter if we win by 20 or lose by 60 if illegal shit happens to our players and the refs do nothing he needs make them know it is not OK. He doesn't need to have a fit like Ricky but he needs to make the NRL uncomfortable.
     
    Inruin said:
    I get that they ruled it wasn't high contact despite clearly there being head on head connection. I can kind of buy that. What I cant get is that it is quite clearly late. Surely they have a check where they are ruling out things as they go. Is it high? Is it late? are the two very obvious rulings that need to be made in this case. The fact he is admitting they didn't pay due regard to one of these is astounding given the time that the bunker had to review all of this with play stopped for a long period of time.

    checklist:

    was it late - yes
    was it high - with available footage we can't determine that (despite clear evidence of head contact)

    from there they determine the consequence for the player involved.
    penalty, on report, sinbin, send off
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    His explanation was the biggest whitewash I have ever heard

    To say that he was charged not because it was a head clash but because it was late is laughable

    Show me any other tackle in the NRL where a player has been charged with a Grade 2 DANGEROUS CONTACT where it was only a late collision!!!

    Also there was a Tackle in the Roosters game where the player was tipped up so that his head was bent under him as he was rolled feet over head (far worse than RTS's charge) but no charge was laid

    The NRL is as corrupt as fuck!!
     
    KiwiinJapan said:
    Yes, every sport does. However, it is the same old thing week in and week out. Biased calls, Annesley blabbering on trying to justify it or apologize and then anticipation for the next game only to have a repeat of the cycle. The Warriors do not stand a chance in the Australian comp.. If it was fair or decisions were close calls, then I accept that, but there were at least three infringements in that play and the ref and bunker turned a blind eye to it. I t will continue to happen and I can`t watch that.
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    I’ve felt this view for a while now - even when we were winning and getting some favourable calls in favour instead of against.

    But that only solidified my theory about game management even more. some of you may call it incompetence from officials nothing more. But how is it incompetence when it becomes predictable?

    You watch enough (I use to watch every game) you can start seeing the patterns and exactly what’s at play.

    1. Entertainment is first. The nrl want competitive and close games so the product is marketable in a heavily competitive environment. Abdo and vlandys clearly care more about the business than they do about the sport.

    2. Fixtures - they need to set games up that they they are heavily invested in. Grudge matches, finals replays etc etc a lot of officiating is swayed by this.

    3. There’s way more but I can’t be fucked 😂😂 I need to do some work
     
    BUNKER HOWLER ROBS WARRIORS

    That said, it was embarrassing that the Bunker totally ignored Jaeman Salmon’s late shot on Te Maire Martin that should have secured the Warriors’ the win in regulation time.


    How does the Bunker miss that?

    Answer: they didn’t miss it, they chose to ignore it.

    And there is a huge difference.

    Yet you can only put it down to the fact the under fire officials didn’t want to make the big call to decide the match.

    How else can you explain what happened after both players stayed down and Salmon had to leave the field with a suspected broken jaw.

    Yet Bunker sensationally decided not to award a penalty that would have gifted the Warriors a 14-12 lead heading into the final minutes.

    The Warriors ended up going down 13-12 in extra time.

    It’s embarrassing.

    What made it worse was that Salmon was subsequently hit with a grade two dangerous contact charge which carries a two-game ban with the early guilty plea.

    This is exactly the type of howler Wayne Bennett was blowing up about in his recent interview with foxsports.com.au, when the super coach was calling for every high tackle that is not clearly accidental to be penalised.

    You wonder why so many coaches, players and fans are so frustrated.

    In the context of the Warriors’ season that one decision could be the difference between playing finals footy this year and missing the top eight.


    A Monday apology doesn’t cut it
     
    It’s been a very even season and we’ve had some awful luck. If Xavier Coates doesn’t do us in the storm game and we had justice in the dogs game, we’d be pushing for top 4. We’ve also had games like the manly draw where their tries were from kicks and against run of play and ours were breaking the line. We’ve been the better side in losing games quite often this season. Sometimes you flip a coin 10 times and its tails every time.
    So I really think despite our position we can still fight for finals
     
    hornbybrown said:
    How does a medical retirement work?

    Does it mean the player gets their contract paid out but it doesn’t count against the cap?
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    Yeah I'm pretty sure that's the case, you need to evidence it's a new injury and not one from before you were signed with a club too, I think. Which would be fine for Tohu as he's been here for ages.

    Obvs would be good for the club money wise, but man I'd be gutted if he was medically retired and didn't get to go out on his own terms. He'd be in my all time Warrior team for sure
     
    Bay39er said:
    Jaeman Salmon faces a two-to-three match ban for a tackle on Warriors halfback Te Maire Martin that left the Bulldogs forward with a suspected broken jaw on Saturday.


    Salmon was charged with Grade 2 Dangerous Contact for the incident which occurred late in regular during Canterbury's 13-12 Golden Point win at Accor Stadium.
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    Now this is completely fucked. How was this let go without penalty? Noticed in the press conference after the game that when Webster was asked on it, he said he hadn’t seen then looks over to Barnett and asks him what he thought, then says I won’t throw you under the bus. Webster needs to defend his players and the lack of care for them because the nrl isn’t doing it. Same with Laban last week in being attacked and then getting the same punishment in the game as his attacker. Something feels really off in the Warriors treatment lately
     
    Naynay said:
    The ref can always make a bad call or miss one but we shouldn’t be relying on those to go our way at all
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    I'm still a bit salty, so if I sound like a prick I apologise in advance lol.

    For me, the point your missing is that were not 'relying' on calls to go our way, but I'm complaining about the lack of consistency.

    The Montoya hit on Tracy was called back three tackles later for a penalty. The normal ref missed it, but the 3rd ref made a point to halt play and go back to that.

    If a referee decides to play it that way, fair enough. I thought that tackle was fine, but if you call that one, then you HAVE to call the TMM one.
    To have a stop in play and multiple looks at that, and to determine that wasnt a penalty, yet you're happy to call something back three plays later is weak. Imo it's borderline cheating. They're changing their interpretation mid game, so how can we know where the line is drawn?

    I thought at times we were slowing the play down in the ruck a lot and didn't get penalised. The same for the Bulldogs at times too. I don't think you hear anyone complaining about that, because the ref was consistent for both teams.

    Someone else pointed out too, look at the shit calls that we've been given in the last few weeks - the RTS binning, the Chanel sin bin for dropping the ball on Chad's head, Laban sin binned for being a punching bag for big red.
    They were all shit calls. But, I'm happy for those calls if they're consistent across the board. But they're not.

    I don't think asking for a game of footy to be consistent is unreasonable, however any time it's brought up us as fans are labelled sooks. It's pretty fucked really
     
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