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    Kav1 said:
    Positional or personnel (or both)? Let's have a constructive discussion.

    He is playing on one leg.
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    Some simple ideas

    1. bomb to DWZ’s wing on the 5th and get him to compete for the ball maybe?

    2. more mins from your bench so it’s 17v17 not 13v17 - especially if your strategy is to wear down opponents

    3. Take hit ups and make contact on your side , twisting with the goal of an offloading - I want more offloads

    4. RTS on the wing

    5. Bunty to start - Barnett to ignite off the bench

    6.Laban and Zyon getting 40mins each in replace of Ford/Capewell

    7. Tohu max 60mins

    Simple.
     
    Trying to take a higher level look at things rather than individual performances.

    Shape:
    Our shape is awful. Absolutely awful. 2nd receiver on both sides of the field receives the ball running towards the corner post without fail. If the ball manages to get beyond 2nd receiver which is rare, our wingers are heading to row 3.

    3/4 Variation:
    We have absolutely Zero deception at backrow or centre on both sides of the field. RTS is the only 3/4 player that attracts extra defence but the poor ball he gets and his own inability to be a passing threat also makes him ineffective.

    Attacking Style:
    Our predictable style takes very little out of the opposition tank. Allowing them to repel wave after wave of attack with gang tackling style - how often do we cause the defence to scramble? Never...

    Loosing the ruck:
    The above allows teams to still have energy to roll through us in attack. Playing a direct style and leaving players on the ground with a quick play the ball.

    Lack of purposeful second phase:
    Our second phase this year has been atrocious. Lacking any real purpose, mainly hot potato. We've built a team of tackle bots, we must ask better questions of the defence through 2nd phase.

    Bench Selection:
    Been discussed to death, nothing to add that hasn't been said.
     
    Makasene said:
    Care to share the key takeaway for those of us without time to listen to the podcast?
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    He talked a bunch of flowery crap tbh but some of the points were:
    1. Against Saints we had our middle blown out. Against Titans we didn’t, the issue was discipline and then defending good ball.
    2. Our system is fine, the problem is our patterns/shape in defence.
    3. Defensive patterns usually break down from a bunch of micro factors rather than a single thing. Eg is Berry checking on Shaun a fraction longer due to the traffic going at his injured half and is that making DWZ nervous? Do our edge forwards not trust our bench middles and are a fraction reluctant to push out? Are players playing busted?
    4. Webby is smart enough to spot the micro factors and fix them.
     
    I am a 50 year old life long rugby guy from Christchurch. Brought up around rugby and have slowly been getting more and more disillusioned with rugby, complicated and a lot of stop start hard to watch sport.

    The Warriors have been the best NZ team sport story in a long time. The players and their attitude are so enjoyable, the passion of the fans is something that NZ rugby cannot match. I cannot wait to get to a game live.

    Inspirational individuals that love playing for each other and the jersey. The wont always win and the odd down few weeks is fine. I want them winning at the end of the year.

    I love the fighting spirit and the pride, even in losing the talk about the excitement of the challenge ahead of them. The team have been struggling with injury and I truly believe all will be just fine.

    No team deserves success like the Warriors, what they went through was a huge sacrifice that few other sport or work environments would ever be asked to do. The character is second to none.

    Up the Wahs … thank you for making a convert in me and thank you fro remind me the value in collective drive and passion.
     
    Makasene said:
    Have to admit, it worries me the number of people championing a Bunty return...

    Yes I think he strengthens the team but don't see how he will be the difference between winning and losing.
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    Come on bro, noone is saying he is going to win us the game or leaping out of their socks 😂

    We have leaked sixty points in the past fortnight, and defensive issues are a lot easier and quicker to fix than our offensive issues.

    We are getting rolled really bad in that middle period of the game. Bunty holds the middle well in defence and controls the ruck, he adds in a department we have lacked the last two weeks.
     
    Makasene said:
    Have to admit, it worries me the number of people championing a Bunty return...

    Yes I think he strengthens the team but don't see how he will be the difference between winning and losing.
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    Actually having some first grade experience makes a lot of difference to that bench, I know he's a limited player overall but can do a job in the middle, that's what we need at the moment.
     
    sup42 said:
    Defence wins championships.

    That Grand final was won during the phase that saw the Warriors Reffed into a crisis inside their Red Zone.

    Both teams were threatening in attack, but it was the defence of that set the Warriors above Wests.

    Those side line tackles to turn over possession were the icing on the cake.

    The professionalism of the young lads puts the other sides in our development pathways on notice. Hell they have put the NRL side on notice.

    Credit to the coaching, at seasons start we looked terribly out matched by the more drilled and experienced Australian sides. Wonderful coaching to build this team from that rough beginning.

    Real shame this comp isn't played alongside the NRL, how good would it be if they were playing on GF day?

    Also a shame that the game was poorly advertised, I missed it entirely for that reason, nice to see the comments in the thread after going back through them and reading.

    Hopefully these boys grow bigger, taller, stronger, and faster.
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    Past Warriors age grade side have just been a lot bigger/stronger (i.e. bigger/stronger forward pack and bigger/stronger outside backs)
    This team actually has a gun spine that has outplayed teams. The hooker and captain Kawynne Patterson got named by TheShortBall instagram page as the third best player in the entire comp this year. The halfback Jack Thompson has been unbelievable as mentioned above. The fullback Joseph Ratcliffe has great instincts, speed and work-rate, does remind me a lot of CNK (but with Reece Walsh hair). The five eighth Tyson Hansen has great running game and passing (he'll probably be captain next year as he's eligible again next year).
     
    Massive result - it takes a tribe, but lots of kudos has to go to Robbo for his investment in our Pathways and for allowing this group of 15-17yo lads to come together and win a title against all odds!

    Huge effort for the whole organisation, but particularly the coaching staff and players to turn around a heavy defeat to the Eels in round 1 (albeit in 38 degrees) into finishing Premiers by beating three previously unbeaten sides in a row! Epic to say the least!!
     
    Imo it's pretty easy to see where we need to improve.

    Last week at the 17 minute mark we had 0 errors or penalties and were up 12-6.
    From that 17 minute mark to the 42nd minute we had 5 penalties and 6 errors. In 25 minutes we made 11 errors, gifting them 17 points. Let that sink in.

    The week before against the Dragons it was similar - 2 errors in the first 18 minutes and were up 6-0 before giving away 4 penalties, 2 errors and 3 ruck infringements up until the 45th minute with the game essentially over at 22-6.

    I think the first person to make an error or give away a dumb penalty in that 2nd 20 min of the first half needs to br dropped the following week. This is where we are killing ourselves and there needs to be accountability
     
    run_it_str8_again said:
    I loathe to say Webby was right but when he said they are losing the rucks as in we get slowed down which screws our attack. Then they get speedier play the ball so it ignites theirs. Against every and any team such dominance is paramount to setting your attacking platform. Our defence starts from dominating the tackles, so when we don't our edges and wings HAVE to compress to compensate.

    As an example. When I watch Berry miss his defensive assignment it has been (sometimes) due to the middles losing the tackle and his inside blokes (SJ and Capewell) compressing in to compensate. By then every backline has a numerical advantage and Berry or DWZ have to choose which of the 2 or 3 runners they tackle
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    Sorry dude. Normally i'll be the first one to stick up for wingers and outsides having to deal with multiple runners on overlaps. But that Tits first try came purely from Dallin jamming in on the centre when Rocco well n truly had him covered. There was no overlap until he jammed in, unfortunately leaving clear space to one of the quickest wingers in the game.

    Rocco's missed tackle on Kelly that led to their second try was a pure one on one miss, then to compound things SJ had actually got across on to Kelly but Dallin once again shuts too early leaving Khan Pereira a free run to the line. Rocco did the same thing last week as well with a straight 1 on 1 miss when Moses Suli scored......and clearly Dallin's poor reads are costing us bigtime.

    Never mind the attack, defence has been woefully inept the last 2 weeks. Ben Hunts try last week where both Te Maire and Egan drop of the tackle was piss poor,

    The territory game which everyone now hates after 2 losses is the way to go, it works for us. It however doesnt work if we're continuously giving away piggyback penalties letting teams out of their half, and then compounding that with bad defensive lapses througn too many 1 on 1 misses or bad misreads.

    Poor discpline and defence.......those are the work ons for us.
     
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