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    Found this season quite weird, it’s established a few things:
    1. Webster is the real thing, keep him for as long as he wants to stay, never let him get to the last year of his deal
    2. Young forwards are the real thing, just need luck with injury.
    3. There is a risk that our pack next year is four old guys on the decline, three young guys going through ups and downs and only Clark in the prime of his career.
    4. Metcalf has it (or enough of it to lock him down)
    5. CHT, CNK and Egan are good professionals and tradesmen, but we aren’t winning a comp without at least one more spine player that can generate attack.
    6. Roger has years left as a winger if he wants to keep doing that role
    7. The other three outside back spots are completely up for grabs, Pompey is great to have around, but he’s not a lock in.
    8. We either can’t attract high profile players, or aren’t really trying to. Every signing is either a youth or a temporary fill in. Even our likely POTY, was going to be a benchie and Jazz replacement at the time they signed him.
    9. This long term view is smart to ensure we are consistent finals team, it will be frustrating for those who live and die with every game, that they either can’t or won’t do shorter, expensive deals to get a gun OB or a unit of a prop.
    Basically set up to be hovering around 4-8 for a long time, is that what people want though? Will they want more? Will Alpha want more? As bad as the post ivan years have been – I’ll certainly take it.
     
    Rest none, we can’t afford it.

    Melb and Dogs favourites to win this weekend and we need them to, as well as take care of Manly Friday which will be tough enough for us in its own right.

    Top four gives us a free hit at the Canberra which I wouldn’t rule out just quietly.

    We have to be gunning for that. In the unlikely event we win it everyone can rest before we play the GF qualifier.

    Lose it and we have a game at home a week later anyway.

    Clear we have to be all in Friday night and Lady Luck does the rest.
     
    Davvy is only 22 with 70 games of first grade played! Can’t quite understand those saying that he is not good/not worth it. His best years are still ahead of him! Pretty much every player who has come to the club in recent years has evolved to another level under Webby. With us losing 2 fringe FG props, it’s pretty crucial we sign another this offseason. Our prop depth is pretty dire as it is.
     
    We are in 6th position with a roster that's probably middle of the pack. Webby is doing a great job and with our junior pathways i believe we will be a perennial top 4 contender for years to come. I'd like to see Webby here for the long haul ala a Bellamy or Bennet at the Broncs. Just gotta work on that interchange strategy 😉
     
    Naynay said:
    Yeah just gotta look at the next step really, less focus on winning a comp at the moment and becoming a consistent top 8 / 4 team, if we win a comp in the next 5 years we probably look back at 2025 as the foundation for it. So the focus needs to be on laying it now
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    If you look at premiership winners historically, the majority have been making at least preliminary finals in the 2 or 3 years before winning the big one. As long as we are trending as finalists consistently, we'll have a year where it all works out. It's a 25/26 round comp and getting through that relatively unscathed is the hardest part.
    So I 100% agree as you say, hopefully we'll look back at the 25'season as a cornerstone year.
    Very hard watching knowing it likely won't be this year though, but keeping the faith in the club actually seems viable atm and not the masochistic fantasy it has been in the past.
     
    I looked back through the historical odds to see how we went against the odds this season.
    It looks like we're finishing pretty bang on what was expected as the unexpected wins and losses are equal on 5.
    • Expected Wins - 9 - Roosters, Knights, Dragons, Dolphins, Rabbitohs, Tigers, Knights, Dragons, Titans
    • Unexpected Wins - 5 - Sea Eagles, Tigers, Broncos, Cowboys, Sharks (Round 2, 4, 7, 9, 14)
    • Expected Losses - 4 - Storm, Broncos, Dolphins, Bulldogs
    • Unexpected Losses - 5 - Raiders, Raiders, Panthers, Titans, Eels (Round 1, 12, 16, 21, 26)
    Worst performance - Paying $1.20 to win vs Panthers B team in Round 16, and lost.
    Best performance - Paying $3.51 to win vs Manly in Round 2, and won.

    I think this backs up how much of a loss Barnett was, as he was present for 4 unexpected wins and only 1 unexpected loss (first game of the season in Las Vegas)*. We've only had 1 unexpected win without Barnett (v Sharks Round 14).

    * Edit: I missed that Barnett was out for the second Raiders game for State of Origin, and originally said he was there for both Raiders losses.
     
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    Thought long and hard about the loss to the Eels and this is where I land.
    After watching their game against the Roosters I knew we were never going to win it - some teams (usually the ones with the elite halfs like Moses) play like they know what they're doing. Their tries come from good simple hole running and support play. Not flashy or rehersed shapes and block plays like ours. They have good direction around the field, and they defend like its just business.

    While I don't really hold out much hope for the rest of this season - we've really overachieved again - the DNA is taking shape. Gone are the hopeless days of being also-rans, predictable and fundamentally poor - where good coaches would kill us with a good gameplan (first titans game and raiders round 1 notwithstanding)

    There are definitely clear improvements made in this iteration of the Warriors, and you can see how its going to improve. The DNA is there, we are developing the right kind of players, and we are competitive in the mean time. So all good - this season has been a success at the cost of a couple of ACLs.

    While of course the fan in me wants them to be top-4, winning games, title contenders etc. The footballer in me can see we just don't have the right players to get there YET - even if Luke and Barney were fit. But we're getting (finals) experience into the guys who will be seniors when we do eventually win it - and we have the most promising juniors in the league. It's a matter of when, not if.

    It does go to show however, that a player like Mitch Moses can make an average team a contender. The boot, the vision and the competitiveness. No shade on Tanah Boyd, but we're not winning anything with him running the team.
     
    Each to their own but I don't think that currently sitting in 4th is a strong enough reason to not look to improve the coaching staff. We're 0W-4L against the top 3, 3W-6L against the top 8 and only have had 1 win over a playoff bound team since Round 7. Recipients of a very favourable draw this season
     
    MXRecord said:
    Im not sure on Erin, Leka yes. But the only two who stood out as playing well were RTS and Pompey imo.
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    Yeah, Erin only 140m and 28 tackles less than 50 minutes. Bloke should be ashamed.

    Charnz...average. Only 320m.
    Fish? Terrible. Only 180m.
    DWZ, another poor performance. 170m and no poor reads.

    Guys, some of yas need to get a grip. Yes, we didn't win and there were some poor aspects for sure, but the effort is clearly there.

    Just one of those nights when things go against you. I think, up until the 35 min when Moses kicked and it ricoched off our player back into an Eel for an error was our first bit of luck. Everything fell their way.
    When was the last 100m try in the first 5 minutes of a game? That shit neeeever happens.

    Imo that's the best we've played in about 5 games and we lost. That's ruba leeg for ya
     
    Ferdie said:
    Each time we lose one of our players/up coming players to another club, there's always people bagging the Warriors ability to retain players (more so on social media than this forum). So I thought I would compile a lineup of Ex Warriors (and soon to be ex Warriors) who are still in the NRL.
    Who do you think would win a game between the current Warriors and ex players?

    1. Reece Walsh
    2. Marcelo Montoya
    3. KL Iro
    4. Euan Aitken
    5. Jesse Arthurs
    6. Kieran Foran
    7. Kodi Nikorima
    8. Addin Fonua Blake
    9. Jazz Tevaga
    10. Matt Lodge
    11. Eli Katoa
    12. Isaiah Papalii
    13. Dylan Walker

    14. Saliva Havili
    15. Tom Ale
    16. Bunty Afoa
    17. Josh Curran

    Tof Sipley
    Zyon Maiu'u
    Siosiua Taukeiaho
    Francis Manuleleua
    Ronald Volkman
    Moala Graham Toafa
    Viliame Vailea
    Ed Kosi
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    1. Reece Walsh - nothing the Warriors could do, wanted to return home, only came to get exposure/help get into Fg with the Broncos.

    2. Marcello Montoya - decent Journeyman, nothing to complain about, wanted a longer contract, at 28 the Warriors did the right thing letting him go for his own sake - while not binding the club to an ageing player whose best asset is kick return meters, which the Warriors have RTS performing in his stead and RTS is more defensively sound.

    3. Kayal Iro, jumped at a one year deal with the Knights, hardly a sought after player at time of leaving. Very green in year one at the Sharks, didn't look too flash on defence and prone to errors.

    4. Aitken. Family reasons.

    5. Jesse Arthars loan player, not ours, agreement with the Broncos

    6. Kieran Foran. Troubled by off field issues, had to leave for personal reasons.

    7. Kodi Nikorima. Wouldn't run the ball or tackle, goodbye.

    8. Addin Fonua Blake, toxic contract breaker piss off.

    9. Jaz Tevanga, why was he let go? Jacob, Dimitric, Leka, Kaylis, too many future stars to keep Jaz.

    10. Matt Lodge. Left for personal reasons, take a look at his history of playing out contracts.

    11. Katoa. Wanted to go straight to a winning club. Nothing the Warriors could do.

    12. Papalii same as Katoa. These boys weren't interested in staying to help lift the Warriors as they became better players.

    13. Dylan Walker compasionate release.

    14. Saliva Havili told the coach he would rather play his way (running game) and therefore struggled to get fg time and no coach keeps players that say that in media interviews.

    15. Tom Ale, ousted by Fatialofa, Dimitric, Leka, Gannon.

    16. Bunty, thanks for your service, ousted by the best junior crop of forwards the Warriors have ever internally produced.

    17. Josh Curran, off field trouble maker, on field not listening to the coach, bye bye, no coach keeps players that don't listen.

    I won't keep going. But the Warriors overwhelmingly come out on the right side of the retention and release - people on fb often times haven't got a clue.
     
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