General Why dont the warriors do this (and other teams)???

[Warrioraholic_old]

Ok your on the 5th tackle and your 20 meters or less out from thier try line. Not much is on but you get the ball to the kicker and they just bang it either up in the air or along the ground hoping that with some luck something might happen

What I would like to see the warriors do (not every time but read the play) is if your less than 20m out on the last just run it hard and try and score the try even if its not on, then take the tackle and make the other team work thier way out of the redzone.

It makes sense that if we arent gonna get another set of six, rather than go back out for a 20m restart, make them start on thier goal line and smash them looking to force the error.

Just a small thing I think could help our game when we have dominated upfront.

Your comments are welcomed

 

[jono_t2000_old]

I kinda of agree and disagree to a certain extent, while I see what you are saying by how running on the last tackle forces them to defend and bring it out from closer to their try line.

But by kicking the ball, especially bombs and grubbers, it gives the attacking team a much higher chance of getting a result, while if you run it on the last its one attacker vs a whole defensive line.

I think they do it purely for the reason theres a much better chance of getting a result thru kicks.

 

[da mad maori]

The 'bomb has a 30/70 chance of getting a result. Not much I agree, considering, but the 'key element here, is that the attacker, is attacking the ball in the air, with momentum.
The second is the 'grubber' through. That, if the ball reaches the in-goal, and the defender is caught, in goal, then you get possession back, from the goal-line drop-out.
Two fairly good reasons why you dont want to take the final tackle.
I personally prefer the 'grubber' as the ball along the ground can do unpredictable things.

 

[Warrioraholic_old]

I understand how, when and why, but its the best option for jones, johns, kimorley, gower, smith etc

But we dont have the best kickers in ropati and sione, I feel confident with webb putting boot to ball, fein still needs some work but is coming along ok

 

[Guest]

What id love to see, if we're 10 metres out with a few tackles up our sleeves, is a long ball to Ruben or Pricey out on the wing. Imagine it, a prop running full pelt one on one with a winger - there'd be no contest!
Failing that, id like to see more chipping behind the defensive line in goal, as that has a tendency to bounce around. I saw Kimmorley do it the other day which led to a try.

 

[ozbash_old]

they should get the Going bros from the Taniwhas to teach them the 'scissors' move.

we had more chance scoring off kicks when henry was there, manu is learning pretty quick tho..

 

[AmeriKiwi_old]

The "hail mary" kick (known as the long bomb pass in the NFL) is a longshot, but when you factor in the touchback possibility, worth 6 more attempts, the chance of scoring a try, and the poor field position the opposing team is likely to gain if they do make it out of the end zone, and it all makes good sense. Not only that, but it makes for thrilling action, as well.
Geez, I`m really starting to love League more and more... but don`t tell the NFL fans back home!! ; ))

 

[MarkW_old]

The bomb and the chip kick will always be the main option on the last play for just about any team. But what has always frustrated me with the Warriors attack near the line is the lack of ideas. There rarely seems to be any kind of set play - although i'm certain they must practise them at training. It looks for all money that the plan is to fling the ball around and hope something brilliant happens. Sometimes it does, but I'd love to see players like Vatuvei running from depth with a couple of decoy runners to really mess with the opposition defensive line - or something like that.

 

[AmeriKiwi_old]

I understand what you`re saying, Mark. Things do look pretty disheveled and sloppy at times while executing the bomb and chip kick... that`s why I see it as a "hail mary" type of play. Yeah, your idea to confuse the defensive line makes sense to me.

 

[Skinny_Ravs82]

It's a no-win situation really. You say, the players should try and read the play which is spot on but everything happens in a split second that sometimes you don't get that little time to think and just go on instint. So while your suggestions are worthy note sometimes you got to consider what is happening at the time.

 

[warriors4life_old]

20 metres out, a kick is more likely to score a try then just running it. Therefore on the last, 20 metres out, we should kick it. But we shouldn't bomb all the time, because then the wingers will know what's coming, but get the ball to the playmaker and put a deft grubber into the in-goal. If we score we score, but if the opposition player grabs it then it will most likely be a line drop-out.

 

[PB_old]

We are a one trick pony when 10-15 out on the last and have been for sometime. Wide kick to the wings. Easy play to read for the smart teams, dumb teams let them in anyway. We have to vary it and hopefully that will be forthcoming once the players grow into their roles. Ideally we keep winning so the method becomes of no consequence.