https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/league/8374537/Warriors-want-own-club-haka
Warriors co-owner Sir Owen Glenn wants his team to perform a haka before each National Rugby League match.
The multimillionaire philanthropist believes the Auckland club needs to express New Zealand culture.
Sir Owen is creating a haka for the upcoming season that starts this week.
"We are New Zealanders and we're going to bring back a haka for the team and a chant, and we're working on that now with Donna Grant and her husband, Anaru," Sir Owen said.
"This [the Warriors] is a Kiwi brand, let's be proud of it. If we don't win the game, which we will, then let's win the war chant."
Grant, the daughter of late entertainer Sir Howard Morrison, last May became the first woman to be appointed to the Warriors board.
She is executive director of Rotorua's Manaakitanga Aotearoa Charitable Trust, head of performing arts at Te Whare Wananga o Awanuiarangi, and serves on boards including the Glenn Family Foundation, Te Matatini National Kapa Haka and the New Zealand Qualifications Authority Nga Kaituhono Advisory Board.
Sir Owen wants the Warriors to perform the pre-match haka in the same way as the All Blacks. "It is very likely, that's one thing I'd like to have my say on. We are Kiwis, let's be proud of that."
Possible issues surrounding a Warriors haka include the fact not all team members are New Zealanders, and whether it is right for a privately owned club to do the haka.
The merit of Sir Owen's plan was questioned by All Blacks great Wayne "Buck" Shelford, who was credited with putting pride back into the All Blacks' haka in the 1980s.
The sight of the Warriors performing the challenge before every NRL match "would be pretty wearying . . . it's not a national side, it's only a club side," he said. "To have it domestically in a [club] competition would be pretty tiring."
The fact that half of the NRL team that would perform it were in fact Australian was another concern, he said.
Warriors co-owner Sir Owen Glenn wants his team to perform a haka before each National Rugby League match.
The multimillionaire philanthropist believes the Auckland club needs to express New Zealand culture.
Sir Owen is creating a haka for the upcoming season that starts this week.
"We are New Zealanders and we're going to bring back a haka for the team and a chant, and we're working on that now with Donna Grant and her husband, Anaru," Sir Owen said.
"This [the Warriors] is a Kiwi brand, let's be proud of it. If we don't win the game, which we will, then let's win the war chant."
Grant, the daughter of late entertainer Sir Howard Morrison, last May became the first woman to be appointed to the Warriors board.
She is executive director of Rotorua's Manaakitanga Aotearoa Charitable Trust, head of performing arts at Te Whare Wananga o Awanuiarangi, and serves on boards including the Glenn Family Foundation, Te Matatini National Kapa Haka and the New Zealand Qualifications Authority Nga Kaituhono Advisory Board.
Sir Owen wants the Warriors to perform the pre-match haka in the same way as the All Blacks. "It is very likely, that's one thing I'd like to have my say on. We are Kiwis, let's be proud of that."
Possible issues surrounding a Warriors haka include the fact not all team members are New Zealanders, and whether it is right for a privately owned club to do the haka.
The merit of Sir Owen's plan was questioned by All Blacks great Wayne "Buck" Shelford, who was credited with putting pride back into the All Blacks' haka in the 1980s.
The sight of the Warriors performing the challenge before every NRL match "would be pretty wearying . . . it's not a national side, it's only a club side," he said. "To have it domestically in a [club] competition would be pretty tiring."
The fact that half of the NRL team that would perform it were in fact Australian was another concern, he said.
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This is becoming a bit of a thorn in my side... the whole 'NZ' aspect to the warriors, they are a privately owned club, not a national team. The heritage jerseys being around NZ/Maori heritage as opposed to Rugby League heritage/tradition, the black jerseys/NZ name (which in my opinion should be only for the national team). It's just not right in my eyes.
Fuck no. This is a terrible idea. The Warriors aren't the national side, what business do they have performing the Haka _every_ week? What are the Aussies in the side gonna do? What about the Kiwis in the opposing sides who have to stare it down (lol Tamou)?
It may be Glenn coming out and saying it, but this sounds to me like one of those Elliot ideas for a pre game psych up. I'm surprised he isn't having them pair up in the changing room and doing the Haka to each other.
It may be Glenn coming out and saying it, but this sounds to me like one of those Elliot ideas for a pre game psych up. I'm surprised he isn't having them pair up in the changing room and doing the Haka to each other.
We alreay have recruitment trouble if they are doin a haka before each game i cant see any aussies wanting to play for our team.
Terrible idea. Just keep ur money flowing and your mouth shut please owen
I imagine the NRL will knock this 'concept' on the head pretty quickly.
The novelty would wear off fast and it would become more of a joke than anything culturally significant. What's to stop opposition teams from busting out gagnam style in response anyway if they feel so inclined?
And to point out the obvious, the team isn't all made up of NZers.
The novelty would wear off fast and it would become more of a joke than anything culturally significant. What's to stop opposition teams from busting out gagnam style in response anyway if they feel so inclined?
And to point out the obvious, the team isn't all made up of NZers.
Awful idea. I love the Haka when it's done right and by the rep teams in rep games… has a 'real' passion about it… an NRL version would be half arsed and like Buck says… it would just get 'wearying' for everyone concerned. Please let them focus on the footy.
I'm guessing we now know where the ideas for the themed jerseys came from then.
I'm guessing we now know where the ideas for the themed jerseys came from then.
I have to say, I'm not TOTALLY against it. But perhaps only for significant home games. I have no issue with Aussies doing it. We had Nathan Fien and Brent Webb doing it for the Kiwis. I think that Owen has the right idea in trying to link the country to the team. They have used the name for many years now and its about time they tried to connect with the other 50% of the country. It is something that will die a pretty quick death, and I don't really care if it does, but the concept is OK.
For those that keep pulling out the "shouldn't be called the New Zealand warriors because it is not a national team", the same issue should be seen with the Breakers. I have no problem with a team wearing the "New Zealand" name, but they should be prepared to take the brand to the entire country.
I can't see a new Haka being as impressive as our traditional one, either. But I don't believe a franchise should be doing "Kamate".
There was an American Football team a few years back who had linked themselves with the Warriors, called themselves the Warriors and used our logo (or something similar). They chose to do a Haka before every match, even though the competition they played in had problems with it. They took a 7 point penalty at the start of every game they began with a Haka.
For those that keep pulling out the "shouldn't be called the New Zealand warriors because it is not a national team", the same issue should be seen with the Breakers. I have no problem with a team wearing the "New Zealand" name, but they should be prepared to take the brand to the entire country.
I can't see a new Haka being as impressive as our traditional one, either. But I don't believe a franchise should be doing "Kamate".
There was an American Football team a few years back who had linked themselves with the Warriors, called themselves the Warriors and used our logo (or something similar). They chose to do a Haka before every match, even though the competition they played in had problems with it. They took a 7 point penalty at the start of every game they began with a Haka.
I'm British. I've needed an excuse to break into a haka for too long.
If this came into being I can imagine the NRL demanding the Aussie national anthem be played for the Aussie teams after the haka.
Im so sick of the haka, it was great in the 80s when youd see it maybe 4 times a year at most but now its 10+ times a year for the all blacks, 3 or 4 for the kiwis, infinite for olympic years, its lost its impact. Add 20 times for the warriors and I just want to vomit.
Im so sick of the haka, it was great in the 80s when youd see it maybe 4 times a year at most but now its 10+ times a year for the all blacks, 3 or 4 for the kiwis, infinite for olympic years, its lost its impact. Add 20 times for the warriors and I just want to vomit.
HELL YEAH!!!!! . Lets re-create the whole 1995 opening game extravaganza ,we just need to add some pole dancing cheerleaders ,some wrestling midgets and the red bull motocross guys doing backflips over the whole lot . This may even tempt Stacey Jones out of retirement to fill our halfback worries.
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Not going to get into a rant over this one because the answer is simple...
FUCK NO!!!
Owen mate, take a leaf out of Watson's book and leave the people paid to run the joint to run it...
PS Can this thread be amended to include a poll?
FUCK NO!!!
Owen mate, take a leaf out of Watson's book and leave the people paid to run the joint to run it...
PS Can this thread be amended to include a poll?
Really dumb.
I like a good haka, but I think the ABs already over do it.
Plus, why would aussies want to do a NZ Maori Haka?
I thought Owen Glenn came here to help bolster the game nationally, to help the Warriors become the best NRL club, not here to flop out his massive ego.
I like a good haka, but I think the ABs already over do it.
Plus, why would aussies want to do a NZ Maori Haka?
I thought Owen Glenn came here to help bolster the game nationally, to help the Warriors become the best NRL club, not here to flop out his massive ego.
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