General Warriors Sponsorship Thread

[Raurimu Massive]

Warriors Sponsorship Thread
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So now that the season is all done bar the Baby Warriors and the inevitable 'where did we go wrong' review, I'll bring up something that's really been bugging the shit out of me with our club.

Some of our sponsorship is really dragging the depths of decency imo. With the Warriors' biggest local fan base famously being the predominantly Maori/PI people of Sth Auckland, it really bugs me that the Warriors promote shit fast food like Wendys using some of the club's biggest PI role models. With the amazing amount of health problems in Maori and PI communities here in NZ caused largely through shit nutrition, I really hate the club whoring out its players like this. The Instant Finance sponsorship isn't much better.

Surely we can whore our players out while still having some sort of social conscience?

[EDIT] Also mightily pissed off how the latest Wendys ad made guys like Koni and Manu look like dumbasses, fumbling around trying to say "Brioche". Hard to say, except it bloody well isn't. Well, maybe for Daryl Halligan.

 

[surfin]

Sponsorship is a very important, and hence it will always be part of professional sport. Guys like Manu and Konny are two of the characters within the team and probably the names that sponsors ask for. Just look at some of Konnys Twitter posts the guy loves hamming it up and looks to enjoy being the class clown. Is a Wendys sponsorship of the Warriors any different to a KFC sponsorship of the NRL for the video refs. I prefer to give us as the fans a bit of credit for being able to make our own decisions without blindly doing what a 15/30 second ad on tv a dozen times a week tells us. Honestly I personally have never bought or used anything simply because a Warrior has endorsed it. Actually the only Warriors sponsor I really deal with is Vodafone and I was with them before they were a sponsor and up to this point I have always been happy enough with their service. If I ever become unhappy with them I will leave, whether they are a sponsor or not. I'm really not a big fan of people blaming a fast food company or any company, for their lack of decision making or their own ability to limit what they put in their mouth. Simple truth, if the Warriors lose Wendys, SkyCity, Instant Finance, Woodstock and any of the companies that may be looked upon to have lack a "social conscience" would they even exist?

 

[Akkerz]

So now that the season is all done bar the Baby Warriors and the inevitable 'where did we go wrong' review, I'll bring up something that's really been bugging the shit out of me with our club.

Some of our sponsorship is really dragging the depths of decency imo. With the Warriors' biggest local fan base famously being the predominantly Maori/PI people of Sth Auckland, it really bugs me that the Warriors promote shit fast food like Wendys using some of the club's biggest PI role models. With the amazing amount of health problems in Maori and PI communities here in NZ caused largely through shit nutrition, I really hate the club whoring out its players like this. The Instant Finance sponsorship isn't much better.

Surely we can whore our players out while still having some sort of social conscience?

[EDIT] Also mightily pissed off how the latest Wendys ad made guys like Koni and Manu look like dumbasses, fumbling around trying to say "Brioche". Hard to say, except if bloody well isn't. Well, maybe for Daryl Halligan.

Couldn't agree more with this but where dollars are concerned social responsibility goes right out the window. Also the players need to draw a line as to what is acceptable . Given that junk food isn't (or shouldn't be) part of their everyday diet why would they support such advertising. Once again, all about dollars & contracts I guess. Doesn't show much mental maturity on their part though.

 

[Freddie Futler]

You pose a good question RM, however it would be interesting to have a poll with this thread to see how many supporters do in fact use the services of said sponsors.
I support one of them so please don't tell me I have to give up my Woodys.
And the hat deal they have at the moment is great.

 

[surfin]

Couldn't agree more with this but where dollars are concerned social responsibility goes right out the window. Also the players need to draw a line as to what is acceptable . Given that junk food isn't (or shouldn't be) part of their everyday diet why would they support such advertising. Once again, all about dollars & contracts I guess. Doesn't show much mental maturity on their part though.

I think we all agree it would be wonderful if we could all survive on sunshine and light, warm fuzzies and hugs, but in the real world that will see you run over and spat out the other side. If money wasn't the controlling factor in most things in life everyone in the world would be doing aid work in a third world country. I have never seen in a ad involving the Warriors anything that says eating Wendys is part of their everyday diet. Again people need to take responsibility for their own decisions and the directions they take, we also see the Warriors on tv every week in the gym and training, using the argument, seeing them eat a burger on tv makes us all junk food junkies, why doesn't seeing them training and working out not make us all gym junkies as well.

 

[Matulino's Left Shoulder]

dont the dragons or the raiders have a giant mcdonalds arc in their stadium.

parents need to do their part in educating their kids, its not some football club's responsibility.

 

[Akkerz]

Alcohol , gambling etc are about adult choices & I support them more than I should but the junk food message is directed to the younger generations and youngsters will follow their heroes. That is what is so damaging. The kids love the food, some parents love the easy option & sports bodies love the sponsership . So the double standard continues

 

[Jordan G]

I don't see anything inappropriate.

I can understand the point that has been raised, but this is a football club, it's not their responsibility.

 

[surfin]

What is the double standard? Surely as a parent you have the power to be in charge of what you give your kids, afterall the parent is the one with the wallet. The statement "some parents love the easy option", says to me that choice is made whether the Warriors are the face of an ad campaign or not.

 

[Raurimu Massive]

No argument from me that it's not a sports club's responsibility to educate people on matters like fast food. Blatantly targetting sections of society is something entirely different.

Preseason we saw the standard coverage of Warriors 'giving back' to the community and getting involved in school projects and standing up as role models and probably banging on to kids about the importance of education etc etc etc.

During the season we put the biggest PI role models in the club in front of cameras, salivating over fucking greasy burgers and acting too dumb to say a basic fucking word. "Hey there young fullah, it's sweet to be both fucking dumb and fat. Head down to Wendys. #warriorsforlife #itsamatteroffaith #letsgoneburgerwarriors"

 

[Matulino's Left Shoulder]

Are you guys perhaps suggesting that.....

 

[¿N. ig-mah¿]

I am more offended by a player appearing on the news at the airport after dipping out for the year with a McDonalds combo in his hand and the biggest smile on his face. Can't remember who it was, but it just screamed to me "sweet, season done, time to binge! " Far more damaging for mine.

 

[facefacts]

So now that the season is all done bar the Baby Warriors and the inevitable 'where did we go wrong' review, I'll bring up something that's really been bugging the shit out of me with our club.

Some of our sponsorship is really dragging the depths of decency imo. With the Warriors' biggest local fan base famously being the predominantly Maori/PI people of Sth Auckland, it really bugs me that the Warriors promote shit fast food like Wendys using some of the club's biggest PI role models. With the amazing amount of health problems in Maori and PI communities here in NZ caused largely through shit nutrition, I really hate the club whoring out its players like this. The Instant Finance sponsorship isn't much better.

Surely we can whore our players out while still having some sort of social conscience?

[EDIT] Also mightily pissed off how the latest Wendys ad made guys like Koni and Manu look like dumbasses, fumbling around trying to say "Brioche". Hard to say, except if bloody well isn't. Well, maybe for Daryl Halligan.

I get where you're coming from Raurimu, but sponsorship's are basically advertising campaigns, and advertising is about knowing your market, then slamming your product in that target groups faces...if the majority of the Warriors fan base was rich upper class whites, then Louis Vuitton would be sponsoring them rather than the America's cup.

Advertising is a filthy business, that bases everything it does on the differences between people then exploiting those differences as much as possible.

 

[surfin]

No argument from me that it's not a sports club's responsibility to educate people on matters like fast food. Blatantly targetting sections of society is something entirely different.

Preseason we saw the standard coverage of Warriors 'giving back' to the community and getting involved in school projects and standing up as role models and probably banging on to kids about the importance of education etc etc etc.

During the season we put the biggest PI role models in the club in front of cameras, salivating over fucking greasy burgers and acting too dumb to say a basic fucking word. "Hey there young fullah, it's sweet to be both fucking dumb and fat. Head down to Wendys. #warriorsforlife #itsamatteroffaith #letsgoneburgerwarriors"

Fact: Most Warriors players are Polynesian.
Fact: The Wendys ads did use several of the non poly players in the team.
Fact: I doubt any of the white boys could have done the cool eyebrow wave thingy.

Give everyone that supports the Warriors some credit for have the brains to make their own choices.
Also a little surprised you're so pissed off, considering some of the brilliant but controversial stuff you have done.

 

[Iafetas Kickstand Wang]

 

[Raurimu Massive]

Also a little surprised you're so pissed off

I am too mate! It was the Brioche advert that really got to me.

One of my pet beefs is the dumbing down of Maori/PI people. Pity there's no money in having the Manukau Institute of Technology on board as a sponsor so we could have ads that inspire South Aucklanders to do as well as they can instead of ads that say "Hey, it's funny and cool to be fat and dumb."

 

[mrblonde]

Well, one solution would be have to have a lot of sponsors all putting in a smaller amount of money, but how many logos do you want the Warriors clothes to have?? (OT but it amazes me sometimes the "ground" ads you see when you watch the game on TV that are obviously not on the actual field.)

And, yeah, the Wendys ad makes the boys look a bit stupid but that's the stereotype and advertising plays up to that generally (some argue that when you're raising the media profile of a minority, you're better off showing that minoriity in any light - even a negative - so everyone gets used to seeing that minority on screen and then you make the serious point you want to make but that argument does sound like a rich white man who runs a tv production firm/advertising firm argument and I'm not sure how many minorities would agree with that process.) The arrogant rich white prick is another stereotype and everyone laughs at media showing that...

I agree with Raurimu more about the fast finance connection than the fast food connection (I'd have thought Subway would have gotten on board, given that Stacey owns/owned one).

 

[mt.wellington]

I am too mate! It was the Brioche advert that really got to me.

One of my pet beefs is the dumbing down of Maori/PI people. Pity there's no money in having the Manukau Institute of Technology on board as a sponsor so we could have ads that inspire South Aucklanders to do as well as they can instead of ads that say "Hey, it's funny and cool to be fat and dumb."

I dont really feel the urge to go out and buy a Breeocky burger just cause its sactioned by my favourite player. Just like I wouldnt go to the casino or drink Lion Red. When the Warriors were sponsored by DB Bitter you couldnt pay me to drink that vile shit past my first sip of the stuff. Dont think alcoholics were made because it either.

Also with that ad old Bull was also mispronouncing it too so it wasnt a PI thing. Speaking of Bull, he was falling asleep at the bar last night lol...

 

[fizurg]

Few points to make.
I thought it kind of did play up on Polynesian stereo types.
Eating fast food isn't bad for you. Eating fast food everyday is bad for you. (I once had a mate in very good shape be recommended mcdonalds by a doctor)
If your going to acknowledge the Polynesian stereotypes you have to also acknowledge that an indigenous Australian is portrayed as the being the most intelligent.

 

[¿N. ig-mah¿]

Well, one solution would be have to have a lot of sponsors all putting in a smaller amount of money, but how many logos do you want the Warriors clothes to have?? (OT but it amazes me sometimes the "ground" ads you see when you watch the game on TV that are obviously not on the actual field.)

And, yeah, the Wendys ad makes the boys look a bit stupid but that's the stereotype and advertising plays up to that generally (some argue that when you're raising the media profile of a minority, you're better off showing that minoriity in any light - even a negative - so everyone gets used to seeing that minority on screen and then you make the serious point you want to make but that argument does sound like a rich white man who runs a tv production firm/advertising firm argument and I'm not sure how many minorities would agree with that process.) The arrogant rich white prick is another stereotype and everyone laughs at media showing that...

I agree with Raurimu more about the fast finance connection than the fast food connection (I'd have thought Subway would have gotten on board, given that Stacey owns/owned one).

But owning a Subway franchise has made Stacey fat. That can't be good advertising.