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edd

edd

I coped a bit of flack for my claim that Locke, at full fitness, is faster than the fish...

So I thought I'd better explain my reasoning...

Open two separate internet pages side by side, one with the vid


And the other with the online stop watch
https://www.online-stopwatch.com/full-screen-stopwatch/

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For each player give them the first 10mts to speed up then tap the counter, finishing on the fifth 10 mt line to give a 40 mtr sprint time.

The higher the number the faster they're running...

Over 40mts I clocked the beast at 4.484s, Konrad at 4.405s, Shaun Johnson at 4.272s, the fish at 4.205s and KL at a blinding 4.103s.

Have a play with it... I'm sure everybody will come up with different results... Ha Ha...
 
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Kendrick

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The warriors have said on radio sport fish is the fastest at the club, closely followed by Shaun Johnson, then Locke, konrad and manu. Recorded on their gps trackers
 
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Biffbebiffing

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Hmm interesting method but there is so much room for human error and too many variables to get an accurate look of how fast players are. Still think Fish is faster than Locke even at his peak. Players just give up chasing Fish for his long range tries while all the others are pushed to the end. Still better than anything I have come up with and still gives a round about estimate of our players speeds.
 
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mode81

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Fisiiahi played extremely well this season he adapted to the wing position comfortably and used his pace accordingly, he pretty much came of age as an NRL player, it's a shame he got injured because he was going great and the team was going well too, bit of a momentum killer injury.

Locke's still yet to find his niche I reckon, shows glimpses of unbelievable skill and freakish plays then shows a real slack attitude at times not even in the picture as last man defender just loitering in no mans land, he should relish the challenge of Tomkins competing for his fullback spot, Locke might even force Tomkins in to the stand off position we shall see.
 
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edd

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The warriors have said on radio sport fish is the fastest at the club, closely followed by Shaun Johnson, then Locke, konrad and manu. Recorded on their gps trackers
Lockes pace has been off this last season... I reckon if he gets back to full fitness it's real close between the two... But that's a big if...
 
Qtownwarrior

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Lockes pace has been off this last season... I reckon if he gets back to full fitness it's real close between the two... But that's a big if...

You cant deal in buts and ifs, if the club have come out and said Fish is the fastest just move on and find someone else to click a timer to
 
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Jay M

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I suspect Fish is quicker than Locke in a straight line - potentially due to his height and build (looks taller and leaner to me vs Locke being shorter and stockier). However, if you look at Locke - he's quick and agile at changing direction, stepping, moving behind the ball and potentially quicker at acceleration off the mark (assuming full fitness)...

Both (at full fitness) are lightning quick, but I'd give Fish a slight edge over 40m+... Over 20 metres, I suspect Locke might be quicker (again at full fitness) ...
 
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its an interesting way of doing it edd as it discounts acceleration and relies totally on stamina. Kinda like a race car on a circular track - from 0 to finish the lap will always be longer than a lap completed while at speed. Shaun Johnson at 10 secs is standing still and has to accelerate, KL at the end is running at full speed or near when he hits the ball, Manu is running fairly fast then kicks it up a notch to drag them off...

I think that angle of run and if your being chased closely or not would affect it. I would have to go with the clubs reading on this one myself. And to be sure that as a fat old white fella, I couldn't catch the slowest of them anytime
 
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You cant deal in buts and ifs, if the club have come out and said Fish is the fastest just move on and find someone else to click a timer to
No need to be a buzz kill... The club are talking about this years times obviously... So if Locke gets back his fitness that's a good thing... Isn't it?
 
edd

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its an interesting way of doing it edd as it discounts acceleration and relies totally on stamina. Kinda like a race car on a circular track - from 0 to finish the lap will always be longer than a lap completed while at speed. Shaun Johnson at 10 secs is standing still and has to accelerate, KL at the end is running at full speed or near when he hits the ball, Manu is running fairly fast then kicks it up a notch to drag them off...

I think that angle of run and if your being chased closely or not would affect it. I would have to go with the clubs reading on this one myself. And to be sure that as a fat old white fella, I couldn't catch the slowest of them anytime
None of them are starting from a uniform position, so I just took them from when they were up to speed... I fugure most players get up to speed within 10 mts. I might be wrong about that...

As for acceleration, Jennings is regarded as the quickest off the mark in the NRL, but there are loads of players who can chase him down over 60 mtrs...
 
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I coped a bit of flack for my claim that Locke, at full fitness, is faster than the fish...

So I thought I'd better explain my reasoning...

Open two separate internet pages side by side, one with the vid


And the other with the online stop watch
https://www.online-stopwatch.com/full-screen-stopwatch/

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For each player give them the first 10mts to speed up then tap the counter, finishing on the fifth 10 mt line to give a 40 mtr sprint time.

The higher the number the faster they're running...

Over 40mts I clocked the beast at 4.484s, Konrad at 4.405s, Shaun Johnson at 4.272s, the fish at 4.205s and KL at a blinding 4.103s.

Have a play with it... I'm sure everybody will come up with different results... Ha Ha...

I like the fact you backed up your argument with some interactive evidence. There are variables in everything but that was a good way for us all to gauge a picture on our fastest players. Will be interesting to see how Tomkins fits the pecking order. Fish had to swerve round in his too, but your point stands against this evidence.
 
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tajhay

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Fisiiahi is fastest player at the Warriors. Wasn't this already stated sometime last year? I doubt that Locke is even 2nd.

Thinking of canning this thread purely based on the fact that the original post is using an online stopwatch to 'measure' how fast ppl are. That is ridiculous at best.
 
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https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=10892354

Glen Fisiiahi and Shaun Johnson are among the quickest men in the NRL. Both have, in recent times, chased down renowned speed merchant Michael Jennings, leading to speculation that the Warriors duo may be close to the fastest on the NRL fields.

Sprint times and measurements are closely guarded secrets but the pair showed their penchant for pure pace in last week's dramatic victory over the Roosters.

According to club statistics, Fisiiahi reached a top speed of 36km/h during his blistering burst to the tryline midway through the second half. The same statistics show that Johnson at one point hit almost 35km/h as he reeled in Jennings in the first half, despite the Origin centre having a significant start on him, following a dropped ball by the Warriors.

Warriors head trainer Carl Jennings, who has also worked at Bradford, Canberra and Penrith, says in terms of running pedigree, Fisiiahi is a rare gem.

"In terms of rugby league, he is the best natural sprinter I have ever coached. He has a running style that sees him glide over the ground. He's got great acceleration but what makes him special is his ability to maintain a peak speed for a long period of time.

He's built for speed."

According to Jennings, Johnson is also something of a freakish talent, being a particularly well-balanced athlete. Kevin Locke sits just behind those two, while Manu Vatuvei, as he showed with length-of-the-field efforts against the Broncos and Roosters, is deceptively quick for someone who is 1.89m and 108kg. The 'Beast' peaked at almost 34km/h at one point during his sprint to the line late in last Sunday'smatch.

Konrad Hurrell is not quite at the same level in terms of speed but has remarkable pace and acceleration over the first 20m, which makes him dangerous close to the line and allows him to score tries like the match-winning effort against Manly.

The Warriors haven't always been known for pace but they have put a special emphasis on speed in 2013: "We decided in the off-season that one of our points of difference could be speed and power," says Jennings. "We knew we had some great athletes here and it was a matter of gearing a programme that would get the best out of them."

The club has tailored much of the gym work towards that area and employed specialised sprint trainer Dane Norton, who has developed specific programmes.

The debate around the fastest men in league is an endless one, as clubs rarely release statistics and most shy away from in-season testing, given the possibility for injury. Men such as Billy Slater, Ben Barba, David Mead and Akuila Uate are regularly mentioned, while rookie Tiger swinger Marika Koroibete is said to have a 10.75s 100m time on his resume.

The debate may be ended next year, as the Sydney Morning Herald has reported that Cronulla sprint coach Roger Fabri has been in talks with sponsors and athletics officials to stage a winner takes all race before the start of the 2014 season, with a large purse on offer. Each club will be allowed to put forward two representatives, though both must have played at least two NRL games this season.

However, even then the title of fastest man may attract some qualification. Speed over 100m is not often required in league, and acceleration over 20m to 40m may be more telling in the context of the game.

Michael Jennings

The New South Wales player is one of the NRL's quickest over 20m to 40m. However, he seems less able to maintain his top speed over a longer distance, being run down in both Warriors clashes this year, first by Glen Fisiiahi and then Shaun Johnson.

Glen Fisiiahi

According to Warriors data, the 'Flying Fish' recorded 3.7s for 40m in testing in May and is the club's fastest over 40m and 100m.

Usain Bolt

The Jamaican world record holder has topped 44km/h at his fastest during a 100m race. The six-time Olympic champion averages over 37.5km/h as he thunders down the track over 100m.

Billy Slater

The Storm fullback has maintained a high level over a decade. Now 30, he remains one of league's most dangerous players in open space.

Jarryd Hayne

The Eels fullback has been hampered by strain injuries but when fully fit is still one of the fastest men in the sport. Hayne won the Gatorade Bolt in 2008 and finished third in a similar cross-code novelty race in 2010, headed by Waratahs winger Lachlan Turner.

No offence, but i would take the word of Carl Jennings over an internet stopwatch anyday.
 
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edd

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I like the fact you backed up your argument with some interactive evidence. There are variables in everything but that was a good way for us all to gauge a picture on our fastest players. Will be interesting to see how Tomkins fits the pecking order. Fish had to swerve round in his too, but your point stands against this evidence.

At 2.20mins there's a good long run from Tomkins down the sideline clocking out 40 mtrs at 4.35s (margin for error of +/- 0.1s)... So not to shabby at all...
 
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At 2.20mins there's a good long run from Tomkins down the sideline clocking out 40 mtrs at 4.35s (margin for error of +/- 0.1s)... So not to shabby at all...

I've Clocked Tomkins in the other thread using my highly accurate Nokia cell phone and fat fingers slightly slower than your timing , dam your fast Edd.

Tomkins is fast no question about that , when he was beaten by one of the fastest Wingers in Super league this year ( ran out of Run way Try line beat Tomkins to the tackle ) the commentators were surprised Tomkins didn't mow the Winger down ( can't remember the match , it features Tomkins thumping the ground after letting the Try in , a theatrical show that looked partly comedic , but good role playing for the team mates and Fans ),

Most Superleague fans would agree Tomkins is one of the Quickest players over there ( oooh over here now ) fully fit I suspect he will be at least as Quick as Johnson.

You look at a lot of his highlight Try's and he's Jogging / loping at the end watching the Defenders / saving petrol / making them run their tanks empty.

Tomkins looks around a lot on the break , head bobbing left and right reminds me a lot of Watching a young Darren Lockyer run / look for options.
 
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edd

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I've Clocked Tomkins in the other thread using my highly accurate Nokia cell phone and fat fingers slightly slower than your timing , dam your fast Edd.

Tomkins is fast no question about that , when he was beaten by one of the fastest Wingers in Super league this year ( ran out of Run way Try line beat Tomkins to the tackle ) the commentators were surprised Tomkins didn't mow the Winger down ( can't remember the match , it features Tomkins thumping the ground after letting the Try in , a theatrical show that looked partly comedic , but good role playing for the team mates and Fans ),

Most Superleague fans would agree Tomkins is one of the Quickest players over there ( oooh over here now ) fully fit I suspect he will be at least as Quick as Johnson.

You look at a lot of his highlight Try's and he's Jogging / loping at the end watching the Defenders / saving petrol / making them run their tanks empty.

Tomkins looks around a lot on the break , head bobbing left and right reminds me a lot of Watching a young Darren Lockyer run / look for options.
We might have an average sized pack, but with Tomkins coming, our back line just gets better and better...

2014... No excuses?
 
Sup42

Sup42

We might have an average sized pack, but with Tomkins coming, our back line just gets better and better...

2014... No excuses?
No excuses after the first month of adjusting to Tomkins.
Depends how long Bukuya is out and who we sign in the Forwards to create that competition for spots we need in the pack.

Thomas Leuluai at hooker could solve that
Suia Matangi
At a Pinch a Lousi finally reaching some impact
Bukuya
Mannering
And one more prop to pressure the rotation.

That would get this go forward kicking up a gear and make space for the fastest backline in Warrior history.
 
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Miket12

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Scary thing is what our back line would be like behind a real dominate pack like the Bunnies or the Chooks.
 
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Sup42

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Scary thing is what our back line be like behind a real dominate pack like the Bunnies or the Chooks.
It's a real shame Jeremy Smith is so imbedded in Aussie. He's the type of player that would bring some fire up to our forwards.

Bigger Loss in the WC than SBW's inclusion in some pundits thinking , for the hardness and take a Try under the Posts factor I have to say they have a point , he really gives the Kangaroos the shits at the bottom of a Ruck he's the hard bastard we really needed most.
 
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