General Warriors Salary Cap Discussion

Discussion in 'Warriors Discussion' started by hotdogRL, Dec 19, 2014.

  1. fizurg
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    No one has every actually heard of a front loaded contract either. I think it’s forum myth more than anything.
     
  2. matiunz
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    It’s not always a 1+1=2 equation. For example if we lose ‘Player A’ on $600k it doesn’t necessarily mean we have $600k for a replacement. Often what happens is we recruit ‘Player B’ for $400k and upgrade ‘Player C’ and ‘Player D’ contracts $100k each.
    Other factors are if a juniors or isp player gets upgraded to Top 30 theres a minimum wage that they need to be bumped up to, the money comes from departing players.
    I took the Smith comments to be more along the lines of potentially offloading players to sign new ones.
    We heavily recruited last season, I don’t think there’s much more to come for 2019
     
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    If we have $450k or something like that spare in our cap. If there was a certain mega prop would be expecting around $900k per year. If we got him on a mid season swap we would be likely to only pay the remainder of his contract? So $450kish. I could handle picking up a disgruntled mega prop for the second half of the season for half price.
     
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    And then used some of SJs money to keep that prop in 2020 (hopefully still keeping SJ though!)
     
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    Surely must have Gavets money to spend?
     
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    People talking about Luke's and manners cash need to remember we have made a string of upgrades

    Though you would think Gavets cash mudy be available. Unless we were going to be over for 2019
     
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    Brian Smith mentioned today they could potentially go back to market as players become available once the coaching merry go round is finalised.

    He mentioned they feel they have adequate cover for Gavet but it does sound like they’re keeping some powder dry to have a dip later on.
     
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    this is exactly what i took out of Smiths interview too
     
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    Only ever heard of back ended contracts which we may very well be clearing room to pay for.

    I have no doubt that clubs may front end a little to use up free cap. Have to remember the salary cap is a use it or lose it thing. You can't save half your cap for 5 years then splurge on the NRL Dream Team. You also have to remember that 90% of your cap must be used on player contracts with the remainder free for support staff or structures.

    To me the money we had from Simon Mannering has been spent. All the rest of our departures were low end players who have been replaced. As for James Gavet's salary, $450K is a mid-range contract these days that we will spend on a like player or two fringe 1st graders...
     
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    You’d be mad to front load a contract the way players walk out of deals before they end these days!!
     
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    I had a theory we have alot more cap issues than has been made public (big surprise) - it runs back to when we had Foran, RTS, Johnson , luke Blair Harris Green etc with some contracts being back ended . By the time you do some jnr upgrades on the way through we are well and truly stretched from the last 2-3 yrs of spend... which is why I see a young half perhaps taking a no7 shirt
     
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    I wonder if the naming of the top 30 will eventually end up with the players contract values being known too.
     
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    With our big player clean out. Is it just Johnson who is eligible for the long service part of the cap?
     
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    Another salary cap bomb about to explode - is this why the club has off loaded a few players?
     
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    Where’d you hear this?
     
  16. gREVUS
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    are you talking warriors? or another franchise?
     
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    he's talking Warriors..
     
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    I wonder how influential to the Warriors GODoyle is in his new job as COO at the NRL..

    Good or bad
     
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    Is this our cap or another clubs?
     
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    Rumour only.
    I saw it on another site - not sure If the Warriors or another club. We did recruit heavily last year plus upgrades, so you never know.