General Warriors Preseason 2019

Discussion in 'Warriors Discussion' started by Tony Martin, Oct 31, 2018.

  1. Miket12
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    Cam Smith played halfback for Logan Brothers in QLD and his first two games for the Storm were as a halfback.
     
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    That GF though? Brilliantly orchestrated.. Outsmarting the smartest team in the comp with their own (ex) player!
     
  3. Mr Brownstone
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    Before getting too carried away with what RTS had to say, remember that he was "in awe" of Kieran Foran during the 2017 preseason. If you don't believe me then google it.
     
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    I think his football IQ is good enough for the halves at NRL level. More of a Keary type if we are alluding to the Roosters. If you mean could he handle centre. Hard to say. Certainly has the skill and enough speed. If he is robust enough yet physically would be the key.
     
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    That's a bugger- he provided a link and everything (that was the red writing under his post).
    Oh well if u want to catch up, here it is again :)

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  6. HoRneT041
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    Ahh, saying that situation should have worked out a lot better for us? - bloody understatement! But I hear what you’re saying, who knew all that talent came with so much baggage! I hope Foran comes right this year.. just not in round 1 haha!
     
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    Do the Warriors have a kicking Coach, field and goal?
     
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    Yes Bruce the roosters had Cronk pointing them around

    Green I don't know ?
    But we have had Stacey Jones an Rubin Wiki out there pointing for years
    And what's history say about that

    Maybe Langer ,Lockyer ,an Cronk an probably Can Smith are at this level
    The only one in our group I could see successfully directing play for us is Tohu Harris
    An he's a year or two away from that level for now .
     
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    Tbh the seasons where Blake Greens value has been the most apparent was last year with the Warriors and SJ, and Manly with DCE. Both similar type running halves who's strengths lie a bit wider of the ruck creating for their outsides. Green's ability to do all the directing and putting people where they need to be allowing DCE and SJ to do just that. They complemented each other and as a result it was a strength for their teams

    Im more of the opinion that's the type of halves partner Green needs. From what everyone says (ive never seen him play) Keighran is more of a "director" type player similar to Green and im just not sure that's needed when there's already someone whos going to do that. I sort of fear for our attack next season, it could fall back to the old high percentage safety first 5 hit ups then bomb to Manu (re Fus). Problem is while both Chanel and Hayze are definitely runners and have potential x factor im not that confident their even ready for first grade yet.

    Its a bit of a quandry and some questions will be answered either way come first round.
     
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    Warriors 'confident in who we have' but how deep does the squad go?
    ANALYSIS: The Warriors are two weeks out from their first pre-season match and despite a quiet year in the way of recruitment, the club seem at ease with who they have.

    General manager of football Brian Smith told Stuff he and the coaching staff were happy with the players being put through their paces in Penrose, and was not concerned with the club's perceived lack of assertiveness over the off-season.

    "As a department we're pretty much where we would like to be at this time of the year," he said.

    "From NRL level right through the grades there has been a noticeable lift in intensity, and we are pleased with the things taken out of our many reviews - that's coaching and players."

    However, while there is no denying the Warriors can field a formidable, contender-level starting 17, the same can't be said in full confidence about their depth - or lack there of.

    The reserve stocks took another hit last week when versatile outside back Charnze Nicoll-Klokstad was granted a release to join the Canberra Raiders. His departure coming after the club already lost valuable back-ups James Gavet, Anthony Gelling and Mason Lino.

    As it stands here's how deep the Warriors are at every position, two weeks out from the first ball being kicked.

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    The Warriors starting 17 are packed with talent, but how's the depth?

    Fullback (incumbent): Roger Tuivasa-Sheck

    Depth: Gerard Beale, Hayze Perham

    Grade: C+

    The loss of Nicoll-Klokstad means there are no out-and-out fullbacks other than the skipper left on the books.

    The club sees young gun Perham as more a five-eighth nowadays, meaning Beale is the only genuine cover at the back - though a handy one at that.

    Wing: David Fusitua, Ken Maumalo

    Depth: Gerard Beale, Lewis Soosemea

    Grade: C

    You can basically put Beale down as cover for every spot 1 through 6, but other than that the wing stocks are slim.

    Exciting outside back Soosemea lit up the ISP competition last year, but is yet to earn a cap at NRL level. If either Fusitua or Maumalo go down this year, he could be the next man up.

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    Adam Keighran, left, could be the Warriors new starting halfback.

    Centre: Solomone Kata, Peta Hiku

    Depth: Blake Ayshford, Gerard Beale, David Fusitua, Karl Lawton

    Grade: A-

    The Warriors have both centre positions comfortably covered

    Beale has played test matches and NRL finals at the position while Ayshford is a veteran of more than 150 first grade games.

    Halves: Blake Green

    Depth: Adam Keighran, Hayze Perham, Chanel Harris-Tavita

    Grade: C

    The biggest question of the off-season has been who will partner Blake Green in the halves, and it's one that will likely remain unanswered right up until round one.

    Shaun Johnson is gone and coach Steven Kearney has outlined that it's a three-horse race to find his replacement - all three are NRL rookies - though Aussie recruit Keighran looks, from the outside at least, to have his nose in front.

    Depth at the position has been long covered by Lino but, with his departure and no marquee signings, the Warriors are thin in the play-making department.

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    Jazz Tevaga was one of the finds of the 2018 NRL season.

    Smith said Green's recent injury (hamstring) had actually been somewhat of a blessing for the young trio, who have had to step up on the training paddock.

    "All three boys, physically are already there (NRL level). They're very big and quick for the position," he said.

    "Blake's injury means over the trial periods those guys have the opportunity to take his minutes and really push for a spot. Knowing Greeny he will have himself right to go by probably that last trial but in the meantime, at trainings etc, those other guys have had to step up and it's been great for their collective development."

    Prop: Leeson Ah Mau, Agnatius Paasi

    Depth: Bunty Afoa, Sam Lisone, Tevita Satae, Lachlan Burr

    Grade: B+

    Like centre, the front row is an area in which the Warriors would be pretty pleased with their depth.

    Gavet is gone but in his place the club secured the services of test prop Ah Mau.

    The former Dragon, coupled with another year of experience for the likes of Paasi, Afoa and Satae, should serve the New Zealand forward pack well.

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    The Warriors could be in trouble if either David Fusitua, left, or Ken Maumalo goes down hurt this season.

    Hooker: Issac Luke

    Depth: Nate Roache, Karl Lawton, Jazz Tevaga, Sam Cook

    Grade: B+

    Fans will be encouraged to see the long-awaited return of Roache after he suffered a serious back injury that ruled him out of the entire 2018 campaign.

    Gold Coast recruit Lawton also proved he was more than up to NRL standard in his limited opportunities last season, so Kearney will be comfortable overall with his dummy-half options should Luke suffer any kind of injury.

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    Warriors back-rower Adam Blair is hit in a big tackle by Dylan Napa.

    Second row: Isaiah Papali'i, Adam Blair, Tohu Harris

    Depth: Leivaha Pulu, Jazz Tevaga, Ligi Sao, Lachlan Burr

    Grade: B

    Good without being great, the Warriors back-row depth has experience on it's side, but not a lot of explosiveness.

    Tevaga proved last year he is a handy interchange forward and will likely find himself back in the No 14 jumper for round one.

    Both Pulu and Sao have NRL experience and there is a lot of expectation around Burr's arrival as well. He was the Bulldogs' reserve grade player of the year last season and before that played 23 games for the Titans between 2015-16.

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    Not impressed by the quality of this write up at all.
     
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    This article fucking sucks, terrible assessment
     
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    Doesn't even list Hiku as FB cover, and he was second choice there last year.
     
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    No mention of Tane Milne either.
     
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    Current odds to win the 2019 title with the AU TAB :

    Roosters $4.50
    Broncos $8.00
    Storm $8.50
    Rabbitohs $9.00
    Panthers $11.00
    Cowboys $13.00
    Dragons $13.00
    Sharks $15.00
    Knights $17.00
    Raiders $21.00
    Warriors $26.00
    Wests Tigers $26.00
    Sea Eagles $34.00
    Eels $41.00
    Titans $41.00
    Bulldogs $51.00

    For how much information we have at this stage of the pre-season they have the Warriors about right I reckon. Can see how the lack of star recruits combined with the loss of SJ would throw us out of the 8 on paper/with the bookies.

    The Broncos seem to be severely overrated and I wouldn't be surprised if the Cowboys miss again. Dragons, Sharks and Raiders are all prone to slide this year too so a Top 8 spot is definitely attainable.
     
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    for someone who called himself the Warriors reporter he may need to brush up on players and what positions they can play!!
     
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    There’s that thing where popular teams (i.e. broncos) sometimes have shorter odds as they have more fans willing to punt on them.

    The only one I’d take exception to is the raiders being above us.

    They could be tough to play because they had big fat props who were hard to handle and BJ and Austin and those guys could get on the back of it. Those big fat props are gone and they didn’t replace them, rapana is out for quite a while, wighton could be banned at any time and ricky is still in charge. Can’t see how they are any chance.

    Cowboys really needed barba, but they have like an all origin forward pack + taumalolo
     
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    Cows had that same pack last year and where not all that flash, though they have added McGuire from the Broncos. Barba loss is huge IMO.

    Raiders squad looks pretty thin, Manly's lacks depth in the forwards and I tip them to cop their 1st ever Wooden Spoon.
     
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    The thing is most of our outside backs are multi positional. Beale, Hiku and at a pinch Fus can all cover 1-6.
    Same with our forward stocks. Blair , Paasi , Afoa , Sao and potentially Burr could cover 8-13.
    We only really lack depth in the halves and that's if you exclude Hiku, Lawton , Roache and let's hope not Harris.
     
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    Could play Kata in a role like the Big O starred in on the rare occasion back in the 80's. The big running No.6 who ran with a Maori side step at all comers on his day!
     
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