If you could pinpoint the 'culture' problems on a couple of players than perhaps however it is practically every player that is performing well south of potential. I should add that my views are based in part on a couple of things I've heard from the wider Warriors network - part of the feedback was from well over a year ago and unfortunately appears to be somewhat prophetic.
Leaguegod
No crystal ball was needed a bus wreck waiting to happen, just check the bus driver.
Gizzyfan
Probably not, but are exit interviews carried out with players and staff leaving the Warriors. That could be illuminating.
tajhay
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1) Mannering said that he wanted to step away from the role as it was taking too much time away from his young family and the burden was weighing him down and affecting his enjoyment for the game.
2) Not sure why everyone is complaining about Hoffman getting the Captaincy. Is it because he is Australian and captains a NZ team where the fanbase has different expectations for the local players vrs Australian imports?
3) If the players cared that much when Mannering was the captain we wouldnt have lost 8 odd in a row last season whilst he still had the C next to his name. Wasnt just the loss, it was the limpdick performances in each of them. If the players cared so much about the captaincy, they would have given a shit and atleast tried when Mannering has his last game as captain in his hometown of Nelson.
Lets face it, who were the other options if it is indeed true that Mannering wanted to step down as captain? Luke? Johnson? Lillyman? Matulino? Vatuvei? Thompson? Its not like those players have had stellar season to date, so the criticism of the captaincy would rear its ugly head regardless of who was in charge. If Mannering was still captain, people would once again be saying that he needs to go just as people did last year. In hindsight, maybe it was never a captaincy issue at the club as the level of performances from the club in general has still been the same from last year.
mrblonde
I sincerely doubt the RLW "photo of Warriors players" manillla folder is so bare that the photo of Ben M was all they had....
And he was one of the Drugged Amigos.
Well, if you're producing shit because that's what the boss told you to produce, you can't be fired before the coach. You're doing your job. You'll probably hate it and quietly look for another job or the other way out of that is if you can convince your boss's boss that that stuff your boss wants you to produce is actually shit and please can you do something about this, talk to the board etc?
Wanting to success is all well and good, but what are the players doing to try and get that success?
If you're deliberately telling everyone to ignore your boss/deliberately make lousy product because you just don't like him, whatever he's getting you to produce, then you've got an issue.
My problem with Hoffman as captain has nothing to do with him being an Australian - I have 2 of them in my household. My problem with him is 1. his communication style and 2. his performance doesn't back up his message.
Take late last year as an example. All the talk was that Hoffman didn't hold back in his assessment of how poorly the Warriors finished the season. Well go back and look at those games and see how he played, how he defended. He was fucking woeful. This year his defence in the red zone ha once again been weak. He hasn't earned the right to talk the talk.
Take late last year as an example. All the talk was that Hoffman didn't hold back in his assessment of how poorly the Warriors finished the season. Well go back and look at those games and see how he played, how he defended. He was fucking woeful. This year his defence in the red zone ha once again been weak. He hasn't earned the right to talk the talk.
We are four and seven I hope no one in the team is happy with their performance this season. Little sceptical about this leak given the fact that Doyle runs a tight ship around leaks.
Players obviously aren't happy given the senior meeting that's happened. From Cappy's tone this week they've obviously passed on some concerns and we will see if anything changes this week.
Players obviously aren't happy given the senior meeting that's happened. From Cappy's tone this week they've obviously passed on some concerns and we will see if anything changes this week.
Leaguegod
Cappy and Mannering get on together? who thinks that? Mannering not wanting to be Captain whilst Cappy is coach, now who thinks that? my hand is up.
mrblonde
So, you'd have Mannering back as captain? What for, if you accept the rumours about how shit he treated Bluey in front of other players are true?
Jay M
Maybe Mannering just had enough of his unprofessional side losing all the time, and got sick of fronting the press conference? Maybe he legitimately wanted to spend more time with his family and not have to fly to Australia for media commitments every fortnight on top of travelling there for games? Maybe he felt 6 seasons was enough and they needed another captain to change the direction at the club? Maybe he reads this forum and felt he should relinquish the captaincy because of the criticism he received on it while he was the captain?
I don't think you can say Mannering doesn't get on with the coach.
Oddly, without Mannering as captain, the team's performances have gone backwards.
So let me get this right. All those years of people asking for Mannering to be removed from captaincy for someone more talkative and assertive as if it would somehow magically fix all our problems, and it didn't work?
Shock, horror, gasp.
Shock, horror, gasp.
Leaguegod
tajhay
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OK lets play that game then. Who would you have chosen as captain if Mannering did decide to move away from that captaincy role?
gREVUS
Long live the Rainbows and Butterflies
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Thats it for me . On ignore u go
Conspiracy theory; 
Maybe with the allegatons of match fixing at Manly, Manly has tried to create a diversion of attention from themselves by the media to split their focus and implicate from a player the unrest within the Warriors. Either that or the Manly rumour is 100% accurate and someone with ties to the Warriors, ie, Mateo is still mates with the ringleader of the Warriors revolt and decided to let it slip to the media that way.
Or maybe there is nothing in anything that has been said and the Warriors are just playing like shit, either way I'll be at the game tomorrow and watching the players off the ball, to see who gives a shit and who doesn't, along with catching up with my old mates in the East block
Maybe with the allegatons of match fixing at Manly, Manly has tried to create a diversion of attention from themselves by the media to split their focus and implicate from a player the unrest within the Warriors. Either that or the Manly rumour is 100% accurate and someone with ties to the Warriors, ie, Mateo is still mates with the ringleader of the Warriors revolt and decided to let it slip to the media that way.
Or maybe there is nothing in anything that has been said and the Warriors are just playing like shit, either way I'll be at the game tomorrow and watching the players off the ball, to see who gives a shit and who doesn't, along with catching up with my old mates in the East block
Leaguegod
If I'm completely honest, outside of Mannering, there are no obvious stand up captains, Roger Tuivasa-Sheck at a stretch and the same for Hoffman, but all the rest seem like boys and not men when it comes to being a true leader
Jay M
Roger Tuivasa-Sheck doesn't strike me as a captain yet.
The most obvious choice for me would have been Shaun Johnson, or Shaun Johnson and Luke as co-captains.
mode81
Perfect combination moving forward. 7.Shaun Johnson 9.Luke Co Captains. Once all this other nonsense we keep hearing about clears then I'd definitely like to see those two as captains. Having 1 as stand alone doesn't bother me either. Both are capable of captaining this team.
