General Warriors 2014 Stats

[mt.wellington]

Ben Matulino tops the table for the Warriors this year. For the first time since he joined the club in 2011 Feleti Mateo doesnt take out the top prize. Not only that but he's 4th after Konrad Hurrell and offloading animal Dane Nielsen!

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With this table we see just how far Feleti Mateo has fallen. Went from 55 in 2013 to a measly 18 this season. Interestingly Sam Rapira has also seen a huge drop in his offloading stats. Looking at his average runs per game he was down 11 runs in his run total from the year before (79.7 runs in 2014 vs 91 runs in 2013)...

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Here we look at how we stack up with the rest of the competition. Important to note that these stats were gathered from another site as I dont do stats on the whole NRL. Ben Matulino comes in 11th. The rest of our top 5 and their placings can be found at the bottom of the list...

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[gREVUS]

thats a real cool break down Mt Well. The interesting thing was that i have been referring to Big Ben as the NEW Feleti Mateo with the wife for months now with no evidence to back it up. Your break down makes it clear that he sees himself as a play maker nowadays not just a hole runner, and here i thought he wanted to be a prop.

 

[mt.wellington]

Konrad Hurrell takes out the title for line breaks this year. Quite an impressive total when you consider he only played 19 games this season. Based on his average per game he would have made 20 line breaks had he have played all 24 games. Quite surprising to see Jacob Lillyman, who played all 24 games, end the season on a donut. You'd also be hoping to see an edge player like Jayson Bukuya get at least one in 18 games..

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Konrad Hurrell really looks to be improving year on year and with less games this season. Just looking at the figures as they are its looking like Jacob Lillyman is on the decline in terms of line breaks. His metres were up though...

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Again we look at how our team stacks up against the rest of the competition. Good to see Konrad Hurrell in the top 5 and could have possibly made the top 3 had he come back fit. One can only imagine how he'll go with the right off season behind him. The next in line is Manu Vatuvei at who is actually 19th equal. The rest of our players who make our top 5 are listed...

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[Lord Gnome of Howick MBE]

Jacob Liliman is an offloading machine!

 

[wallacenz]

Sam Tomkins totally blitzed the rest of the team in tackle breaks this year. Most would have come from his elusive running in the middle where he seemed to change angles on a dime to score. Last year Konrad Hurrell topped the table with 69...

Thanks for posting all these stats.

It seemed to me that many times ST would be running side to side shrugging out of tackles and never really going forward. A player like Inglis on the other hand would have the majority of his line breaks taking him into the opposition back field.

 

[mt.wellington]

Nathan Friend easily took out the highest tackle count for the team. Could have made more if he hadnt of had to share minutes with Siliva Havili, Thomas Leuluai and Kevin Locke. Because of that he missed 225 minutes of game even though he played all 24 games. Those minutes translate to 2 full games plus 65 minutes on a 3rd game.

The end table, Minutes per Tackle is how many minutes it takes in between tackles (just something to show workrate and how much bang for buck your getting from mainly your bench players). So as an example, Nathan Friend is making a tackle every 1.6 minutes or 1 minute 36 seconds. His actual workrate would be much higher on defence though. If we imagine the game being 50/50 attack and defence then he is really making a tackle every 48 seconds on defence then turning around and passing the ball every play on attack. All that and he's was the 2nd oldest player in the NRL this year...

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These stats include the playoffs and the Grand Final. Nathan Friend topped the tackle count for the whole competition during the regular season. If we add the 225 minutes he didnt play and multiplied it by his game tackle average his adjusted total of 1170* would have still beaten players who played in the final footy games...

*someone might want to recheck that figure

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No surprises with Captain Simon Mannering leading on this stat but what does surprise me is that Ben Henry is 2nd. He has fallen one short of the leader yet only played 16 games to Mannerings 24. With stats like that Benry easily tops the Average per Game table. The last table on the end is what percentage of a players tackles are 1 on 1. Got that figure by simply dividing the 1 on 1 stat with the overall tackle stat...

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Will do the bad tackle stats (missed and ineffective) seperately.

As always, if you spot any errors or have any questions or ideas then please post...

 

[drake83]

Was talking to a guy at prozone who said they have the contract for the NRL next season and possibly 2 years after.
All fantasy league is going to use prozone stats and one other company not champion were losing their contract and did not know it yet.

 

[mt.wellington]

Was talking to a guy at prozone who said they have the contract for the NRL next season and possibly 2 years after.
All fantasy league is going to use prozone stats and one other company not champion were losing their contract and did not know it yet.

Thought the only other one was NRLStats? Be a bummer if they stop as no one else publishes their stats online. Will make future stats threads like this pointless...

 

[drake83]

Thought the only other one was NRLStats? Be a bummer if they stop as no one else publishes their stats online. Will make future stats threads like this pointless...

Have you tried advanced statistics? Like running regressions on our forwards meters vs the rest of the NRL?

 

[mt.wellington]

When and where stats for the season. Missing some on the Where stats...

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[drake83]

Prozone sports now have the telstra contract and are doing all the stats for fantasy leagues as well as the NRL again this year. I am going to compile the reports again this year for them fro the NRL and NYC.

 

[wallacenz]

This is a nice article with a statistical analysis comparing Shaun Johnson to DCE

The Stats
Throughout 2014 Shaun Johnson scored 9 tries and laid on a further 15, Daly Cherry-Evans scored 3 and set up 16.

Johnson averaged 75 running metres, breaking an average of 2.6 tackles per game. Cherry-Evans averaged 59 running metres, breaking an average 1.9 tackles a game.

Cherry-Evans made a total of 400 tackles missing only 32, equaling a 93% success rate. Johnson made 271 tackles and missed 55, equaling an 83% success rate.

Johnson broke the line on 11 occasions and clocked 17 line break assists. Cherry-Evans broke the line on 10 occasions and helped a teammate through 9 times.

Johnson forced 21 drop-outs and amassed 218 kicks in play, Cherry-Evans forced 9 drop-outs and had 216 kicks in play.


Read more: https://www.zerotackle.com/nrl/whos-better-johnson-or-cherry-evans-16320/#ixzz3R7qHMNIX

I agree with the conclusion but hopefully Shaun Johnson turns those stats into gold this year

 

[jonno]

This is a nice article with a statistical analysis comparing Shaun Johnson to DCE

The Stats
Throughout 2014 Shaun Johnson scored 9 tries and laid on a further 15, Daly Cherry-Evans scored 3 and set up 16.

Johnson averaged 75 running metres, breaking an average of 2.6 tackles per game. Cherry-Evans averaged 59 running metres, breaking an average 1.9 tackles a game.

Cherry-Evans made a total of 400 tackles missing only 32, equaling a 93% success rate. Johnson made 271 tackles and missed 55, equaling an 83% success rate.

Johnson broke the line on 11 occasions and clocked 17 line break assists. Cherry-Evans broke the line on 10 occasions and helped a teammate through 9 times.

Johnson forced 21 drop-outs and amassed 218 kicks in play, Cherry-Evans forced 9 drop-outs and had 216 kicks in play.


Read more: https://www.zerotackle.com/nrl/whos-better-johnson-or-cherry-evans-16320/#ixzz3R7qHMNIX

I agree with the conclusion but hopefully Shaun Johnson turns those stats into gold this year

Looking at those numbers you'd say Johnson is still a little weak on defense.

But judging by the comments he gets on here you'd think his defense was awesome and it's his singlehanded game winning abilitys that are lacking...

By the way, does DCE singlehandedly win games for Manly?

 

[wallacenz]

Looking at those numbers you'd say Johnson is still a little weak on defense.

But judging by the comments he gets on here you'd think his defense was awesome and it's his singlehanded game winning abilitys that are lacking...

By the way, does DCE singlehandedly win games for Manly?

He seems to regularly be the guy who scythes through the Warriors line and scores the match winning try when they meet

DCE is an enigma, or a paradox, he more often than not makes the right decisions in the NRL comp but in rep footy he is the exact opposite

 

[jonno]

He seems to regularly be the guy who scythes through the Warriors line and scores the match winning try when they meet

He seems to be or he is?

Sorry to be blunt but this is the stats page....

 

[wallacenz]

He seems to be or he is?

Sorry to be blunt but this is the stats page....

Don't turn it into an argument then.

 

[Defence]

I like the way they hand credit to dce for stewerts try assists... Don't see them crediting Shaun Johnson with all the try's tomkins lays on.

No one would be in a better position to judge than foz and I'd wager that he'd take Shaun Johnson all day.

 

[InsideBall]

Stats say that Shaun Johnson dominates DCE, and that's in a team that more often than not was going backwards... And they give DCE the edge? Hmmm...

The real test of Shaun Johnson vs DCE was the four nations, two halfbacks surrounded by world class teammates... And we all saw how that panned out.

 

[wallacenz]

DCE gets the edge because his team is a winning team, they have a premiership under him and haven't missed a playoff with him running the show at halfback.

I think the article is very reasonable, as they say at the end, this year is the real test. Manly have lost their forward pack and they are a bit of a mess off the field.. welcome to the Warriors world DCE.

 

[InsideBall]

So, DCE gets the nod because of the better team around him, precisely...