General Unemployment rising in Aussie

[BiggerD]

Just for anyone considering crossing the ditch.

Unemployment is rising in Australia.

Of course certain occupations are still in demand like health care & education.

But the building & construction industry could soon be on a decline.. due to certain factors.

For example in Sydney , regulations where dropped on building Apartment blocks.
Lots of Chinese money was coming into the country which boosted local Sate Government coffers & its was more Chinese immigrants then build more Apartments.

Some apartments where not built to local Government standards, & so now you have a problem where some apartment blocks are cracking & showing other faults
and no one is owing up to the mess. People are being made homeless after being kicked out of a faulty apartment.

Today a Major property Developer went into liquidation leaving those that have paid for one of their apartments in limbo

More than 3,000 units in limbo as one of Australia's major property developers collapses

The slump in Australian construction is biting, with large Sydney-based property developer Ralan Group going into voluntary administration, while shares in cement maker Adelaide Brighton tumble after a major profit downgrade.

www.abc.net.au

Retail statistics show today that Australia is in a "retail Recession"
Too many Aussies in Debt.. its not looking good

The worst figures in almost 30 years that could signal a recession

Digital Finance Analytics founder Martin North said the weakest retail sales figures in 28 years could be a sign Australia is slipping towards a recession for the first time since 1991.

www.dailymail.co.uk

And for some this headline : For some in Australia, unemployment is worse now than during the Great Depression

For some in Australia, unemployment is worse now than during the Great Depression

Dunno what the Economy is like in New Zealand.. but Kiwis for now could be better off.

 

[tajhay]

Dunno what the Economy is like in New Zealand.. but Kiwis for now could be better off.

Both of us are in Aus. Question for interests sake...how many people do you know that are capable of working that are unemployed right now?

Generally, standard of living is far greater in Aus.

 

[BiggerD]

That's true Taj.
I suppose it depends on what industry you are in.

I am in the Alcohol Industry & I have quals in that feild.
people buy booze during downtimes..

But if you are in construction, things could soon be getting tougher

And Fairfield is full off middle eastern refugees

 

[matiunz]

Both of us are in Aus. Question for interests sake...how many people do you know that are capable of working that are unemployed right now?

Generally, standard of living is far greater in Aus.

I’m currently unemployed and not finding as many opportunities out there, got a few colleagues made redundant last couple of months

 

[matiunz]

I’m currently unemployed and not finding as many opportunities out there, got a few colleagues made redundant last couple of months

Also might be a symptom but also looking into further education to boost the resume and the classes filling up pretty quickly of late

 

[BiggerD]

I’m currently unemployed and not finding as many opportunities out there, got a few colleagues made redundant last couple of months

You will pick something up soon Matiunz
Just take anything.. even if it outside of your comfort zone

 

[matiunz]

You will pick something up soon Matiunz
Just take anything.. even if it outside of your comfort zone

Cheers bud I’m lucky enough to be in a position where the Wife earns enough to support the both of us so I can afford to be a bit pickier than many, I’ve noticed a large shift towards casual and termed contracts this time around . Feel bad for some that aren’t so lucky must be tough

 

[BiggerD]

Cheers bud I’m lucky enough to be in a position where the Wife earns enough to support the both of us so I can afford to be a bit pickier than many, I’ve noticed a large shift towards casual and termed contracts this time around . Feel bad for some that aren’t so lucky must be tough

Yeah I am a casual worker.. Been casual for 7 years.
Unfortunately, casualisation of the workforce is the new way employers hire people.
I usually work 20-35 hours a week

Funny that when I had a full time job 15 years ago I was on more money, working long hours & so stressed my immune system was bad.

 

[matiunz]

Yeah I am a casual worker.. Been casual for 7 years.
Unfortunately, casualisation of the workforce is the new way employers hire people.
I usually work 20-35 hours a week

Funny that when I had a full time job 15 years ago I was on more money, working long hours & so stressed my immune system was bad.

Definitely learned to appreciate the work life balance more and more, I was lucky enough in my last role (contracter) to get better and less hours for more money somehow lol

 

[bruce]

Mate of mine was telling me the wages in Melbourne compared to here. I think it was $38 an hour for holding a stop sign on road repairs, and I think bus drivers were close to $40. Houses were cheaper too, and you could back a better nrl TEAM.

 

[matiunz]

Mate of mine was telling me the wages in Melbourne compared to here. I think it was $38 an hour for holding a stop sign on road repairs, and I think bus drivers were close to $40. Houses were cheaper too, and you could back a better nrl TEAM.

Road workers are strangely very highly paid, there was an article saying some are on 6 figures. Might be a hard sell with standing in the heat all day hence the need to pay what they do, another thing I noticed over here is for some reason it’s usually hot chicks on the traffic control vs what you see in NZ- always wondered why that was...
Bus drivers have to put up with some pretty shit and stressful conditions so wouldn’t surprise me they have decent pay

 

[bruce]

Might be a hard sell with standing in the heat all day hence the need to pay what they do, another thing I noticed over here is for some reason it’s usually hot chicks on the traffic control vs what you see in NZ- always wondered why that was...
Bus drivers have to put up with some pretty shit and stressful conditions so wouldn’t surprise me they have decent pay

In both cases the pay is way more than here. Might just be small examples. He was also saying things are much cheaper e.g. petrol.

 

[matiunz]

In both cases the pay is way more than here. Might just be small examples. He was also saying things are much cheaper e.g. petrol.

There’s a few more variables than just wages, for example you mentioned petrol- which yes is cheaper but diesel isn’t and come time to register your car you are looking at about $2k which offseats the cheaper petrol considerably. In my experience Sydney is more expensive for toll roads than Auckland that also offsets the petrol price a bit.
There’s also other things like my rent in Sydney is 3x what I was paying for similar in Wellington. On the whole I’m better off in Aus but it’s more than just wages

 

[tajhay]

In both cases the pay is way more than here. Might just be small examples. He was also saying things are much cheaper e.g. petrol.

Rough guide : Syd vs Auck

Cost of Living Comparison Between Sydney, Australia And Auckland, New Zealand

www.numbeo.com

Ignore the purchasing power and wages section though, you are better off in NZ bruce

 

[matiunz]

Rough guide : Syd vs Auck

Cost of Living Comparison Between Sydney, Australia And Auckland, New Zealand

www.numbeo.com

Ignore the purchasing power and wages section though, you are better off in NZ bruce

The alcohol one surprises me- found beer expensive as shit here, has the price gone up massively in NZ I wonder?
Found cinemas in Aus are ridiculously expensive compared to NZ- at least they’ve upgraded most of them lately I guess

 

[Mr Frank White]

Lots of small things that don't get equated.

Diesel is more expensive, but no RUC.
Food is generally cheaper (except for meat), but most cities have farmers markets which are dirt cheap.

Housing is a toss up, but outside of Syd/Melb you can get big 3bd houses for 450-500pw.

Power while rising here is super cheap, last power bill was $400... for the quarter!!

Rego is more expensive, but no WoF. Dunno about 2k though, mine is $700 a year in QLD.

Wages of course are on another planet. If roughly 50% higher in Aus. My job in NZ pays less than 50k, I'm north of 70 here. (Defence benefits blow the package out to nearly 100k tho)

 

[matiunz]

Rego is more expensive, but no WoF. Dunno about 2k though, mine is $700 a year in QLD.

NSW has compulsory CTP insurance and although no WOF need to get pink slip which is essentially the same thing.
Hate that meat is more expensive for poorer quality though. Gotta love 2L milk for $2 though

 

[Mr Frank White]

NSW has compulsory CTP insurance and although no WOF need to get pink slip which is essentially the same thing.
Hate that meat is more expensive for poorer quality though. Gotta love 2L milk for $2 though

Couldn't believe beef and lamb prices when I moved. $60 P/kg for ribeye??!

 

[dean]

My son lives in Melbourne, works for a labour hire company. Currently he is working as a labourer on a construction site but is a chippie. Only works on union sites. Last year he earned $115k for ten months work. Likes working long hours, currently doing 56 hour weeks, clearing around $2800pw plus a couple of hundred on top put aside for his rostered days off. On top of that the employer pays a minimum of $200 pw into his super or 9% whichever is the greater. No holiday pay, all included in rate.
Could never earn that sort of money here.

 

[matiunz]

My son lives in Melbourne, works for a labour hire company. Currently he is working as a labourer on a construction site but is a chippie. Only works on union sites. Last year he earned $115k for ten months work. Likes working long hours, currently doing 56 hour weeks, clearing around $2800pw plus a couple of hundred on top put aside for his rostered days off. On top of that the employer pays a minimum of $200 pw into his super or 9% whichever is the greater. No holiday pay, all included in rate.
Could never earn that sort of money here.

I used to work for a company that had sites in both NZ and Aus, the difference in Labour budgets was massive. Main difference was the weekend penalty rates in Aus (particularly Sunday) plus the unsociable hours rates- You could make near a weeks wages working overtime at unsociable hours on a Sunday public holiday. Made operating hours a lot more restrictive in Aus. Cost of getting goods to NZ however generally offset the lower labour cost