Internationals State Of Origin Match 2 Talk

fanrrior

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Apr 10, 2012
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1. Brett Stewart
2. Jarryd Hayne
3. Michael Jennings
4. Josh Morris
5. Akuila Uate
6. Todd Carney
7. Mitchell Pearce
8. Tim Grant
9. Robbie Farah
10. James Tamou
11. Glenn Stewart
12. Greg Bird
13. Paul Gallen (captain)

Bench:
14. Trent Merrin
15. Luke Lewis
16. Ben Creagh
17. Anthony Watmough
NSW coach Ricky Stuart has taken one of the biggest gambles of his career by naming Manly's Anthony Watmough in his side for Origin II despite a shoulder injury.
Watmough, who failed to play his regular 80 minutes in Manly’s last two matches due to nerve damage in his neck, was named in place of Sea Eagles teammate Tony Williams, who was last week ruled out with a serious back injury.

Stuart said Watmough was due to have cortisone injection in his spine in a desperate bid to be fit for next Wednesday’s match at ANZ Stadium, which sees the Blues attempting to avoid the ignominy of a seventh straight series loss.
"He (Watmough) has got a couple of vertebrae that are inflamed ... this (the injection) will be a chance to really speed up the recovery part of the neural problem that he's got," Stuart said.


"He'll miss some sessions early in the piece ... talking to Choc, he's got no dramas about being right for the game."

Ironically, Stuart left Watmough out of Origin one due in part to the same ongoing shoulder injury.

The aggressive backrower was subsequently called into the side as 18th man, but Watmough turned down the offer, with Aaron Woods and BJ Leilua instead joining the squad.

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In other notable selections:

* Utility Jamie Buhrer, who only played seven minutes in Origin one, was axed. Robbie Farah, who only three weeks ago was slammed as not being tough enough for Origin, will therefore be asked to play 80 minutes at hooker.

* In-form Panther Tim Grant warded off stiff competition from Tigers duo Keith Galloway and Aaron Woods to take Buhrer’s bench spot. NSW will therefore play without a bench utility. Luke Lewis, Greg Bird and Glenn Stewart will be asked to cover the utility role should the Blues suffer an injury in the halves or backline.

* With the selection of another prop in the side (Grant), Paul Gallen was moved to lock, with Lewis relegated to the bench.

* Todd Carney retained his spot at five-eighth despite coming under pressure for an inconsistent performance in the opening game of the series.

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/s...-origin-game-two/story-e6frexv9-1226381855233

Did I do anything wrong this time Toilety?
 

Fazz

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Apr 12, 2012
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Are you kidding me? WHAT IS THAT BENCH? Can NSW just for once pick a bloody prop or two on the bench? Nice to see them sticking with basically the same side though at least. Building combinations is the only way they're ever gunna win another series.
 

ToiletDuck

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Are you kidding me? WHAT IS THAT BENCH? Can NSW just for once pick a bloody prop or two on the bench? Nice to see them sticking with basically the same side though at least. Building combinations is the only way they're ever gunna win another series.

I'm assuming Gallen will slot into prop when one of the starting props come off, not that he plays terribly differently at lock anyway. Great starting backrow though, with Watmough off the bench...if they're going to get one up on QLD that's their strength.
 

Pozza

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May 19, 2012
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Can't believe Ben Creagh is still in the squad . Doesn't really strike fear into the hearts of the QLDs does he. If they're looking for a utility what's wrong with Mitch Aubussen from the Roosters. Has played consistently well in a team which has been all over the shop
 

ToiletDuck

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You'd have to think if Todd Carney plays anywhere near what he's capable of then they're in with a good shot. He was shit in game 1. Tim Grant is an interesting selection at prop, though weakens the Pamfers just a little more for our game against them.
 

OMG

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I'm assuming Gallen will slot into prop when one of the starting props come off, not that he plays terribly differently at lock anyway. Great starting backrow though, with Watmough off the bench...if they're going to get one up on QLD that's their strength.
With the best Lock in the comp playing where he should be they might have a chance, it was dumb move to play him at prop IMO he can create more 2nd phase now.
 

fanrrior

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Still think they should have TLL in the team. The first game of origin is always the hardest, so I expect Carney, Tamou, and whoever else to kick it up a notch.

I wouldn't be surprised if Nsw wins it tbh. They were doing pretty well in the first match until Jennings got sent off, but who knows right.
 

ToiletDuck

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Still think they should have TLL in the team. The first game of origin is always the hardest, so I expect Carney, Tamou, and whoever else to kick it up a notch.

I wouldn't be surprised if Nsw wins it tbh. They were doing pretty well in the first match until Jennings got sent off, but who knows right.

I suspect they probably will win. They usually grab at least one game of each series. They're pissed off after game 1, and Sticky has closed the doors on all media up until the game as he believes the QLD players/team are allowed allowances that his team isn't. So I expect them to come out firing and win game 2, setting up their traditional flogging at Suncorp in game 3 after much hype.
 

fanrrior

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With the best Lock in the comp playing where he should be they might have a chance, it was dumb move to play him at prop IMO he can create more 2nd phase now.
Yeah but he's an eighty minute prop. Any team would want to have a prop who stays on for the whole game and as Toilety said, he doesn't play too differently.
 

OMG

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Still think they should have TLL in the team. The first game of origin is always the hardest, so I expect Carney, Tamou, and whoever else to kick it up a notch.

I wouldn't be surprised if Nsw wins it tbh. They were doing pretty well in the first match until Jennings got sent off, but who knows right.
Tamou seems to be the reason he has bought in another Prop, he was very good 1st game. Queensland were average 1st game, Slater had one of his worst games under the highball, they are going to be very tough.

Yeah but he's an eighty minute prop. Any team would want to have a prop who stays on for the whole game and as Toilety said, he doesn't play too differently.
Gallen is a prolific offloader that creates a heap of 2nd phase when teams are going backwards, he can't do the same amount playing Prop, 1 offload game one is a ridiculous stat for Gallen.
 

fanrrior

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Apr 10, 2012
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I suspect they probably will win. They usually grab at least one game of each series. They're pissed off after game 1, and Sticky has closed the doors on all media up until the game as he believes the QLD players/team are allowed allowances that his team isn't. So I expect them to come out firing and win game 2, setting up their traditional flogging at Suncorp in game 3 after much hype.
It helps that it's still pretty much the same team, so that can only be a good thing. But if I was a NSW supporter i'd be concerned about Uate's defense. You get the feeling he could be targeted.

Gallen is a prolific offloader that creates a heap of 2nd phase when teams are going backwards, he can't do the same amount playing Prop, 1 offload game one is a ridiculous stat for Gallen.
I'd assume that doing offloads at club level is very different to doing an offload in origin. But if like you say, it's because he's playing as a prop, I don't see why Stuart doesn't tell Gallen to run wider as if he was playing at lock. But stay in the middle on defence.
 

surfin

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Why do people say origin is played at a different level, 20 years ago when the league was secondary to the brawl maybe, but it's not true anymore, the hype and media head games are different but the players aren't and the footballs not alot different to a good first grade game. Jennings binning shows it's treated the same way, especially when Stuart spends the following week complaining about that and a possible no try rather than talking about his teams short comings.
 

OMG

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Why do people say origin is played at a different level, 20 years ago when the league was secondary to the brawl maybe, but it's not true anymore, the hype and media head games are different but the players aren't and the footballs not alot different to a good first grade game. Jennings binning shows it's treated the same way, especially when Stuart spends the following week complaining about that and a possible no try rather than talking about his teams short comings.
IMO It's definitely faster than NRL. Test football has caught up to Origin and is played at the same speed now.
 

Inruin

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May 19, 2012
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that looks a lot stronger bench than last game. and playing at home. nsw to win. and wrap it up in front of a hostile qld crowd in game 3. easy.
 

surfin

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Qld weren't flash last week but still won and even with Rickys moaning about the refs so they get cut some extra slack I think it will be all over red rover for the blues this week.
 

tajhay

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Mar 30, 2012
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NSW should be too strong again. Lets hope that the refs, and Video ref have good vision this time.
 

surfin

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NSW should be too strong again. Lets hope that the refs, and Video ref have good vision this time.
"I love Qld" might be yours for a long time yet. They lost by 8 points not 6 so no change in the forseable future except for margin.
 

tajhay

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Mar 30, 2012
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"I love Qld" might be yours for a long time yet. They lost by 8 points not 6 so no change in the forseable future except for margin.

If that try wasnt given, farrah would not have had to go for the 40/20 hero play. He would have gone for the safe option of passing to Jennings, who would have glided past the weak tackles, and passed to a supporting carney just before the last line of defence = NSW try under the post for NSW.

uggh forgot to update my avatar! knew there was a reason why i was feeling dirty all the time. Respect to you qld fans who can pretend to like that cheating team and being able to live like that!
 

surfin

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If that try wasnt given, farrah would not have had to go for the 40/20 hero play. He would have gone for the safe option of passing to Jennings, who would have glided past the weak tackles, and passed to a supporting carney just before the last line of defence = NSW try under the post for NSW.

uggh forgot to update my avatar! knew there was a reason why i was feeling dirty all the time. Respect to you qld fans who can pretend to like that cheating team and being able to live like that!
None of that matters, Stuart has lived an evil life in this and his previous lives, Kharma has degreed only pain for him, Sharks, Aussie and NSW, your best chance of having a Blues win is get Stuart to coach Qld.
 

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