Internationals SAMOA RLWC2013 Campaign

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News, views, pics and tweets on the Samoan RLWC13 squad on their quest to win the RLWC2013...
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A Bit of History
The Australasian influence on Samoa, plus the Samoans’ playing presence in Super League and the NRL, mean that Samoa are well placed to perform well in the 2013 World Cup.

Previously known in Rugby League circles as Western Samoa, the islanders have been competing on the international Rugby League stage for over two decades.

The Samoan’s first major competition was the 1988 Pacific Cup, where they made a great first impression by going all the way to the final where they suffered a narrow 19-16 defeat at the hands of New Zealand Maoris.

Samoa’s World Cup bow came in 1995 and five years later they defeated New Zealand Maoris and Scotland to reach the quarter-finals, where they ran into eventual winners Australia.

Grouped with Tonga and Ireland in 2008, many pundits were expectant but Samoa did not deliver. But with a stronger domestic structure and some high-profile names to call upon from the northern and southern hemispheres, Samoa cannot be taken for granted in 2013.

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  • Team Name: Toa Samoa
  • First Appearance: 1995
  • RLWC2013 Group: Group B
  • RLWC2013 Opponents: Papua New Guinea, France and New Zealand
  • Tournament best: Quarter-Final (2000)



Warm up game...
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Think this their first game???
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Boys waiting for plane at Auckland Airport. All these guys have played for the Vulcans...
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mt.wellington

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Samoan training day 1 in Sydney...


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This answers a lot of the selection issues for me slaughterhouse.sa ...

Steve Matai injury puts hit on Samoa coach
CHRIS BARCLAY
Last updated 05:00 13/10/2013

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MISSING WORLD CUP: Manly Sea Eagles centre Steve Matai.

Matt Parish should have known the hit was coming from Steve Matai - after all it's been that sort of year for the luckless coach.

The personable Australian has already endured a disastrous season as Ricky Stuart's assistant at Parramatta.

A State of Origin interlude with NSW only provided more misery - and now he has to guide a weakened Toa Samoa squad to the World Cup.

Parish was always likely to be denied access to Sydney Roosters and Kiwi in waiting Roger Tuivasa-Sheck; new Queensland back rower Josh Papalii has also graduated to a Kangaroos squad for the first time in 2013.

Rumours that Krisnan Inu and Frank Pritchard might be available were also quashed when the Kiwis squad was named, while Jeff Lima was an early casualty through injury.

Warriors utility back Carlos Tuimavave also failed to recover from a hamstring, though it is Matai's absence that looms as most significant in an inexperienced backline.

The abrasive former Kiwis international pledged allegiance to Samoa this year but his hopes of debuting against New Zealand in Warrington have been dashed by his latest injury.

Matai appeared to suffer a hand injury during last weekend's NRL grand final, and although he was able to play on for Manly, he was a notable omission when Samoa's 24-man squad was confirmed.

Details of Matai's injury were sketchy, while it also remained to be confirmed whether he would travel with the team to their UK base in Warrington tomorrow as technical advisor - perhaps with a view to playing later in the tournament if the opportunity arose.

Parish succeeded St George Illawarra's Steve Price as coach after Samoa were humbled 36-4 by Tonga in April - only six of that 17-man squad have been selected for the World Cup, including captain Roy Asotasi.

Former Parramatta second rower Reni Maitua, former Kiwis international lock David Fa'alogo and rookie New Zealand Warriors prop Suaia Matagi are welcome additions, while Samoa-based players are also included.

"It's a great opportunity for the senior blokes to put something back into Samoan rugby league and also the young blokes to step up," Parish said.

"It's important that we pick some development players as well, so they can carry on the tradition."

Parish's future at the Eels beyond November 1 is unknown, though he has another two Origin campaigns to plan for as Laurie Daley's assistant.

The Samoan job has been a welcome diversion for Parish though a team that finished ninth of 10 competing nations at the last World Cup in 2008 faces what he describes as the toughest group - alongside the Kiwis, France and Papua New Guinea.

"Parramatta was disappointing, so this is something I've been looking forward to for a number of months," he said.

Former Kiwis centre Nigel Vagana has helped identify talent while retired England and Great Britain halfback Sean Long will be on the ground in the north of England.

"Shaun's an exciting young coach. He's going to work with the halves. He's got a very good football brain, particularly on the attack."

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/league/9277516/Steve-Matai-injury-puts-hit-on-Samoa-coach
 
fanrrior

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You talking about Francis Meli in the first post???
After googling him, yep, that's the one. Hadn't really seen the bloke as I only really started being a fan of the Warriors in 2007. I only hear stories about what he was capable of back when he was here.
 
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After googling him, yep, that's the one. Hadn't really seen the bloke as I only really started being a fan of the Warriors in 2007. I only hear stories about what he was capable of back when he was here.
He was awesome. Same destructive powers as Manu but was a much better defender IMO...

*Manu OT on the 9th post. Is that a record???
 
mt.wellington

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What a welcome in Warrington! A Siva performed by local students...
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Sup42

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The only time I've ever heard Kamate booed on NZ Soil was when the Kiwis played Samoa , came as a hell of a shock to the Kiwis

If Samoa had TL , Sonny Bill , Prichard , Matulino , a fit Steve Matai , Roger Tuivasas Sheck , Jeremy Smith , and their State of Origin players then they would probably beat New Zealand.

Not guaranteed but they would go in a raging favorites.

How good would that be ?

New Zealand in that case wouid be forced to stump up some depth of their own. As will be the situation with Aussie one day.
 
Sup42

Sup42

After googling him, yep, that's the one. Hadn't really seen the bloke as I only really started being a fan of the Warriors in 2007. I only hear stories about what he was capable of back when he was here.
The Warriors have only had three world class Wingers that spring immediately to mind.

Hope

Meli

Vatuvie

Hope was all class , his best games were for pre Warriors

Meli was the most complete Winger we've ever had , Speed , Power , Balance , great hands , massive hitter , solid under the high ball, polished finisher.

The Five Try record in an NRL final stands out.

But for mine it's that neck brace that Tate Wears that left Meli's biggest mark on the game , horrible winger to play against.
 
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mode81

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Yep I remember Sean Hoppe ripping it up for Northcote and Auckland back in the days before hitting the NRL, absolute sizzling pace, almost an Ettingshausen replica in terms of speed and finishing , could tell from early in his career he was always destined for NRL and Kiwis, great player.

Francis Meli will always be one of my favorite Warrior players, brutal player for a winger, Manu has more tries then Meli but other then that Meli was pretty much your complete winger, he had better vision and made far better defensive reads then Manu, Meli battered his opposite winger every game, an angry Meli was a sight to behold.
 
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The only time I've ever heard Kamate booed on NZ Soil was when the Kiwis played Samoa , came as a hell of a shock to the Kiwis

If Samoa had TL , Sonny Bill , Prichard , Matulino , a fit Steve Matai , Roger Tuivasas Sheck , Jeremy Smith , and their State of Origin players then they would probably beat New Zealand.

Not guaranteed but they would go in a raging favorites.

How good would that be ?

New Zealand in that case wouid be forced to stump up some depth of their own. As will be the situation with Aussie one day.
yep and all the white guys would have to go rep england and scotland. nz maori would be the only true nz team
 
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edd

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yep and all the white guys would have to go rep england and scotland. nz maori would be the only true nz team
An ethnic world cup?

But seeing as all Maori alive today are over 50% European ancestry there wouldn't be a Kiwi's team at all... Ha Ha...
 
Sup42

Sup42

yep and all the white guys would have to go rep england and scotland. nz maori would be the only true nz team
Doesn't quite work does it.
Akin to all the African Americans going to play basketball , suddenly the Ethiopians would be pretty freakn good.
Anyways the idea was never to derail the thread.
 
mt.wellington

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Ive been reading about a bit of stuff slaughterhouse.sa that seems to point to your earlier comment about corruption in the Island teams and in particular the Samoan team. Will post up another article I read that pointed to the Samoan Government having a large influence on the team after sponsoring them to the tune of $600,000 but in the mean time, check this out...

Shambles for Samoa as Asotasi fails to show
CHRIS BARCLAY
Last updated 14:04 16/10/2013

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ROY ASOTASI: The former Kiwi failed to show up for the Samoa squad.

Samoa's World Cup campaign is in turmoil after revelations former Kiwis captain Roy Asotasi has apparently quit the squad on the eve of its departure for England.

The 31-year-old front rower had been expected to lead Toa Samoa at the tournament but, despite being named in the official 24-man tour party, he did not leave Sydney for Manchester with the remainder of the squad on Monday.

Samoa coach Matt Parish told the Warrington Guardian shortly after the team set up camp in England: "He is lost and still in Australia. He wasn't there for the flight."

The Australian would not elaborate on the circumstances surrounding Asotasi's no show but did say: "We have lots of young players who want to represent their country."

Asotasi, who played 24 times for the Kiwis between 2004-09, switched allegiance to Samoa this year and captained them in April's 36-4 loss to Tonga in Sydney - a shock defeat that saw current Parramatta Eels assistant Parish replace St George Illawarra coach Steve Price.

He was expected to be a cornerstone of the Samoan team, particularly after South Sydney teammate and fellow former Kiwis front rower Jeff Lima was unavailable with a shoulder injury.

Ironically Asotasi is expected to arrive in Warrington soon regardless of World Cup commitments because he has signed with the Wolves to play Super League for 2014-15.

Asotasi said he was looking forward to the tournament when contacted during the NRL finals campaign last month, but now mystery surrounds his non-appearance.

He is named in the squad published on the Rugby League Samoa Facebook page, though he is a notable omission from a team photo taken during a training camp shortly before the team headed north.

There is no indication of Asotasi's whereabouts on his Twitter account, although his failure to make the plane to England has prompted appeals for information from followers.

Samoa have a warm-up game with the England Knights in Salford on Sunday (NZT) before opening their campaign against the Kiwis in Warrington.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/league/9290432/Shambles-for-Samoa-as-Asotasi-fails-to-show
 
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