General Roster For 2013 / Gains And Losses

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Current Roster for 2013:
Glen Fisiiahi 2015
Nathan Friend 2013
Pita Godinet 2013
Ben Henry 2015
Konrad Hurrell 2015 (yus)
Shaun Johnson 2014
Jacob Lillyman 2014
Kevin Locke 2013
Sam Lousi 2013
Sione Lousi 2013
Simon Mannering 2015
Alehana Mara 2013
Feleti Mateo 2013
Ben Matulino 2015
John Palavi 2014
Sam Rapira 2014
Jerome Ropati 2013
Elijah Taylor 2013
Bill Tupou 2014
Manu Vatuvei 2013
Steve Rapira 2013
Russell Packer 2014
Dane Nielsen 2015
Thomas Leuluai 2015
Todd Lowrie 2014
Dominique Peyroux 2015
Harry Siejka 2014

Gains for 2013:
Dane Nielsen 2015
Thomas Leuluai 2015
Todd Lowrie 2014
Dominique Peyroux 2015
Harry Siejka 2014

Losses:
Lewis Brown Panthers
Ukuma Ta’ai
Micheal Luck Retirement
James Maloney Roosters
Krisnan Inu Bulldogs
Ligi Sao Manly
Peta Hiku Manly
Omar Slaimankhel Japanese Yawnion
Jordan Meads French RL
Toka Likiliki Knights

Contractual Status Unknown:
Ivan Penehe
Dylan Collier
Sebastine Ikahihifo
Sio Siua Taukeiaho
Carlos Tuimavave
Charlie Gubb
Nathaniel Peteru
Suaia Matagi
Atelea Nafetali

U20s Likely Upgrades to FT contract:
Siliva Havili

U20s Likely Upgrades to Vulcans:
Atu Tupou
Nathaniel Peteru
Siulongua Fotofili
Jethro Friend
 
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Who are our up and coming star back rowers?
There are no shortage of carthorses... what about the thoroughbreds?
 
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Likely replacements:
Thomas Leuluai > James Maloney
Dane Nielsen > Ben Henry
Ben Henry > Lewis Brown
.....? > Ukuma Ta'ai (minimal bench play, Sam Lousi can likely take his spot)
.....? > Micheal Luck (ok he hasn't been playing anyway, so maybe a rookie can take his place in the wider squad)

I'd consider these players injury prone:
Jerome Ropati (our only true utility and only experienced centre cover, save for Simon Mannering, who is needed in the pack)
Manu Vatuvei
Sam Rapira
Steve Rapira
Kevin Locke (Fish hasn't looked that great in his NRL appearances this season, so not sure what our options are here)

Looks to me like we need to sign an experienced utility back and an experienced second rower. Possibly also a young prop.
 
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Don't forget about a few up-and-coming Toyota Cup players. We usually retain a few of them at the end of each season. Most of them will train with the first-grade squad and end up playing in the NSW Cup though. Anybody know which players aren't eligible to play in the Toyota Cup next year?
 
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Ivan Penehe is rubbish. surely he will be gone
 
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omar is going?

seems we got cover for all the postions leaving :/ how long is friends contract? i would like to see another 5/8
 
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Off contract players:

Dylan Collier, Ben Henry, Sebastine Ikahihifo, Russell Packer, Ivan Penehe, Steve Rapira, Omar Slaimankhel, Ukuma Ta'ai, Sio Siua Taukeiaho, Carlos Tuimavave
 
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Off contract players:

Dylan Collier, Ben Henry, Sebastine Ikahihifo, Russell Packer, Ivan Penehe, Steve Rapira, Omar Slaimankhel, Ukuma Ta'ai, Sio Siua Taukeiaho, Carlos Tuimavave
I'd personally cut Collier and Penehe and retain the rest (not including Ta'ai, who it seems is going?). Unless Omar is definitely gone, then I guess I'd keep Collier for wing cover - but I don't really see him playing first grade.
 
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I'd personally cut Collier and Penehe and retain the rest (not including Ta'ai, who it seems is going?). Unless Omar is definitely gone, then I guess I'd keep Collier for wing cover - but I don't really see him playing first grade.
I agree...I hope we resign Omar.$$ shouldnt be a issue surely
 
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To be honest, he'd only be going from the Vulcans to another NSW/QLD Cup team if he did move somewhere else. He wouldn't be a first choice winger/fullback at any club, would he? I think he should stay, for his career. With Manu more than likely going to be injured at sometime next season, it would be between him, Fisiiahi, Collier or one of the non-contracted Vulcans players (Peace, etc.), for the wing spot. From that list, he'd be first equal with Fisiiahi, yeah? I guess there is always the option of moving Hurrell to the wing, but I don't think that is really a wise idea due to his lack of aerial skills.
 
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Omar has to be above Fish at wing.
 
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Off contract players:

Dylan Collier, Ben Henry, Sebastine Ikahihifo, Russell Packer, Ivan Penehe, Steve Rapira, Omar Slaimankhel, Ukuma Ta'ai, Sio Siua Taukeiaho, Carlos Tuimavave
cheers, I amended it!
 
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think this willrussel a few feathers but Omar is overated yea hes fast but he gets tries from dummy half 1/2 a meter from the try line won't do that in NSW cup or first grade.
 
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think this willrussel a few feathers but Omar is overated yea hes fast but he gets tries from dummy half 1/2 a meter from the try line won't do that in NSW cup or first grade.
I've actually wondered if he would make the next step up, the guy is obviously fast and has a great fend and an ok passing game but for me at the moment he is definately better suited to be a first grade winger rather than FB. Mind you when he moved to FB he made the transition pretty well. All things being equal next year Nobby gets through the season unscathed and the question doesn't need to be asked as to covers for him.
 
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think this willrussel a few feathers but Omar is overated yea hes fast but he gets tries from dummy half 1/2 a meter from the try line won't do that in NSW cup or first grade.

As a fullback, i completely agree with you, however i do think he would make a good center or a great running stand-off with a good support game.
 
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Sebastine Ikahihifo & Siua Taukeiaho should both be resigned

good ball players with size
 
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think this willrussel a few feathers but Omar is overated yea hes fast but he gets tries from dummy half 1/2 a meter from the try line won't do that in NSW cup or first grade.
Being a a prolific tryscorer is so overated these days....fark me wake up.Doesnt matter how and where you score them from.

being able to read a game,gettin youself in positions to take that last pass,anticipation and instincts to know where space is on the field and the knack for the try line are all attributes you dont take for granted
 
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Most of the try scoring was last year, unfortunately injuries have put a big fullstop on this year for him so far. Fish is also a good example that shows not everyone rates try scoring as important, at least thats the feeling I get from reading some of the posts on here.
 
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Despite losing 3 second rowers, we still have some depth there. Sam lousi, the Palavi Bros and Ikahihifo. Jerome can provide centre cover as can Henry, we have depth in the halves too. I think our only concern is the wing. We need to buy a cheap, fringe winger for depth, someone like Sandor Earl, Dom Peyroux, Issac Gordon etc. Wouldnt cost much and could cover injury or manus move to the back row.
 
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Locke will move into the halves next season imo.
 
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