Player Roger Tuivasa-Sheck

Starting a Roger Tuivasa-Sheck dedicated thread so we can follow his career through news, articles and posts. The other signing one has been too far polluted with posts about the Pom.

https://www.nzwarriors.com/threads/roger-tuivasa-sheck-signing-sam-tomkins-release-discussion.41850

Roosters fullback Roger Tuivasa-Sheck signs with Warriors for three years
DAVID LONG
Last updated 14:58, April 8 2015
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Roger Tuivasa-Sheck has joined the Warriors on a three-year deal and will play for the club from next season, while Sam Tomkins will return to England.

As reported in January, the NZ franchise were interested in bringing the Kiwis and Roosters fullback back to Auckland and they are believed to have paid over $800,000 for his services.

Tuivasa-Sheck will be a like-for-like replacement for Tomkins, who will leave the club a year early having failed to settle in New Zealand.

The Warriors have been trying to help a homesick Tomkins adjust to life in New Zealand, but this hasn't happened and there was a feeling this was affecting his performances.

He'll leave the country at the end of the season and be able to play without any pressure now a decision has been made.

Tomkins showed just how talented he is in the couple of games he played this year before getting injured and it's no coincidence the club's performances dropped away in losses to the Broncos and Storm in the past fortnight.

Tuivasa-Sheck grew up in South Auckland and was nabbed by the Roosters, despite the Warriors also showing strong interest in him.

The 21-year-old won the award for the winger of the year in the NRL last season and has been in stunning form again this year after his switch to fullback, replacing the retired Anthony Minichiello.

In the club's loss to the Sharks last weekend, Tuivasa-Sheck ran for over 300 metres.

The Warriors have been looking to land a marquee signing for a number of months, but missed out on Kieran Foran, Trent Merrin and Jason Taumalolo.

Warriors managing director Jim Doyle said the club had reluctantly agreed to allow Tomkins to return to England a year before the end of his contract in 2016, but was delighted to secure Tuivasa-Sheck on a long-term contract.

"He came here excited about testing himself in the NRL and also experiencing living in a new country but, in the end, Sam has found it too much of a challenge being away from home," Doyle said.

"While we have talked with him and tried to work through it he has now come back to us to ask for a release at the end of the season.

"It's disappointing that it has come to this but reluctantly we have accepted there is no option but to allow Sam to return to England.

"For now, though, he is determined to finish his time with the Warriors in the best way he can. He's working to recover from his knee injury as soon as possible so he can regain his spot in the team."

Tomkins thanked the Warriors for their compassionate approach.

"I never imagined it would reach this point," he said.

"This is a great club and I can't say enough about the coaching staff. I love being with the lads and it's a brilliant country to live in but I can only be honest and say I miss home in ways I never thought I would.

"I'm truly grateful to the Warriors for agreeing to give me an early release and I am so determined to repay them for their consideration.

"All I want now is to get back out on the field to help us have a great season."

Warriors head coach Andrew McFadden said making a decision now about Tomkins' future should prove beneficial.

"This has been hanging over Sam at different times and there's no doubt it has affected him," he said.

"Now the way has been cleared and I'm sure he'll excel once again when he comes back from this injury.

"We've seen the quality he provides when he's in the side. He makes a huge difference to the way we play and I know how determined he'll be to contribute over the rest of the season."

While disappointed Tomkins wouldn't be with the club for the full term of his original contract, McFadden was elated about snaring Sydney Roosters star Tuivasa-Sheck.

"He's a wonderful talent and a fantastic signing," he said.

"He's still only 21 and has already made a real mark in the NRL and also for the Kiwis. To be able to bring a New Zealander back to our club from Australia is massive for us.

"While we're naturally thrilled and Roger is just as excited about coming home, we both have the same focus for the rest of the year.

"He's solely interested in doing all he can for the Roosters just as we know Sam wants to do the same for us."

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/leagu...asa-Sheck-signs-with-Warriors-for-three-years
 

fizurg

1st Grade Fringe
May 18, 2012
1,707
hamilton
I’ve got no doubt he will be an All Black, he’s a franchise in himself just like SBW, and as you say the standard he sets for his teammates to strive for. Will continue to be one of my faves and now really excited for the season if the team gets it right.
RTS isn’t the big deal that SBW was at the time. I’d hazard a guess and say that many union fans who don’t watch league wouldn’t even know he is.
 

BeastMode

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Mar 7, 2015
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RTS could be a frank bunce type at centre, with his solid frame or a Walter little with that crazy step.

sorry to admit this, i’m an all blacks enthusiast so Iook forward to him bringing carnage to the Boks and Wallabies !! And winning back our WC!!
 

Navigator

Christchurch Born n bred white bait fed.
Contributor
May 19, 2012
2,150
Brisbane Queensland Australia
just hope RTS doesn't yo-yo like SBW when/if things don't work out in union
George confirmed there was an agreement in place for Tuivasa-Sheck to return to the Warriors in the future should things not work out, but added he had "no doubt" the 27-year-old would make a mark on the 15-man code.
 
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The crow

Warriors Bench Player
Jul 22, 2020
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RTS isn’t the big deal that SBW was at the time. I’d hazard a guess and say that many union fans who don’t watch league wouldn’t even know he is.
I'd hazard a guess that RTS is 10x the player SBW was and that most know who he is. He certainly isn't the same level of (over)hype train that Sonny was but he'd be close to a household name.... maybe that's just my league bias talking...
 

mrblonde

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Apr 14, 2012
3,633
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Who is the clubs highest point scorer?

A fair point, but if we're taking that stat so seriously, then Mr G Ngamu, Mr L Hohaia and Mr M Witt come into consideration as best Warrior ever. Which maybe they should. Certainly on a points-per-game average, Shaun's pretty impressive. If I'm being nit-picky, which I will be because I can, a fair number of those points were penalties/conversions from pretty handy positions. So let's go with club's highest try scorer - Manu, Stacey, Simon, Lance, David, Jerome. No Shaun. According to this Wikipedia page. Yay.

Actually, just re-checked Wikipedia, Shuan's tied with Simon on 63. According to this blimmin' Wikipedia page. Boo.

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brightman

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May 18, 2012
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A fair point, but if we're taking that stat so seriously, then Mr G Ngamu, Mr L Hohaia and Mr M Witt come into consideration as best Warrior ever. Which maybe they should. Certainly on a points-per-game average, Shaun's pretty impressive. If I'm being nit-picky, which I will be because I can, a fair number of those points were penalties/conversions from pretty handy positions. So let's go with club's highest try scorer - Manu, Stacey, Simon, Lance, David, Jerome. No Shaun. According to this Wikipedia page. Yay.

Actually, just re-checked Wikipedia, Shuan's tied with Simon on 63. According to this blimmin' Wikipedia page. Boo.

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Wow! Such a hater.. cheer up and put yourself on that list cause you're definitely scoring all the points here 😴
 
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Mr Brownstone

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Nov 9, 2014
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A fair point, but if we're taking that stat so seriously, then Mr G Ngamu, Mr L Hohaia and Mr M Witt come into consideration as best Warrior ever. Which maybe they should. Certainly on a points-per-game average, Shaun's pretty impressive. If I'm being nit-picky, which I will be because I can, a fair number of those points were penalties/conversions from pretty handy positions. So let's go with club's highest try scorer - Manu, Stacey, Simon, Lance, David, Jerome. No Shaun. According to this Wikipedia page. Yay.

Actually, just re-checked Wikipedia, Shuan's tied with Simon on 63. According to this blimmin' Wikipedia page. Boo.

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Stupid post. How about try assists as a stat to consider or is it just the actual scoring of points that thrill you
 
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warriorsfan92

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Oct 11, 2013
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I can’t believe some people are angry at this move. The guy has poured his heart and soul into this club, and as done everything in his power to guide us to higher honours.

He’s done everything in rugby league, he’s said it’s always interested him to return to union (which he played growing up), and the pandemic had probably made him fast forward his decisions re being away from family, and the solidity Nz rugby will provide in that sense.

He’s not getting any younger and wingers in union usually start to decline 25 onwards traditionally. This is legitimately his last opportunity. Personally, I back him. But he’s going to have to do a fuck load of work to beat some of those in that all blacks backline. He’s got the talent and the work ethic, and I back him.

those who are angry, don’t be so bloody selfish. Let the man do his thing. Disappointed I get, angry, I don’t. This will also free up over a million dollars to further build upon our roster or to re-sign some of our talent coming through.

for me though, this now makes the Hughes rumour even more solid. It’s a straight swap. Although he’s been playing 7, his ability at fullback is there & was only pushed to 7 for lack of depth and papenhuyzens presence. He’s no Roger, but he’s probably the best fullback on the market. Worst case, we push one of our young guns back there, or hiku, and use the money to buy a class halfback or hooker to strengthen the spine and support the young gun.

we will be just fine. Our recruitment has been on point, in terms of targets and signings. Brown and tino are now some of the best young talents In the game, pos identified this years ago. We’re chasing the right players and with a solid squad, coaching staff, management, and over a million in cash, I’m confident we will land a quality replacement.
 

JP_576

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Aug 4, 2020
271
I don’t begrudge RTS anything but if players are going to sign contracts and then break them for every reason imaginable then clubs deserve the right to terminate contracts at their ppleasure.
Players don't have the right. to break a contract. This was a mutual understanding and like he said he's known about it since last year so I assume this was probably discussed last year maybe even when the pandemic hit.
Off course if clubs want to be dicks they can so even if a player has a reasonable request and the player could in return play shit for the rest of his contract till they let him go. VIce versa a club may want to get rid of a player that they think is over paid but the player refuses to shop around so they decide to just bench him with 0 game time dropping his value over time until he decides it's better to find another club.
Overall I guess the players do have the slight advantage in that they can effect the whole team morale.
 
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JP_576

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Aug 4, 2020
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It really pisses me off, the like "I'm really, really thrilled to be working at Burger King and all, but the thruth is I really want to work at McDonalds!" underlying attitude New Zealand rugby league players have towards rugby union. "I love you, you lovely, sweet looking darling chick but the minute the hot, fit babe wearing the ABs jersey comes free I'm. Outta. Here." Great. I love you, too, honey...
To be fair it's not too common and I'd wage most players that have those goals usually have some background links to union. You can't begrudge a man for his ambitions.
 

brightman

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May 18, 2012
3,550
Auckland
I’m pretty sure RTS has won
Dally M winger
Dally M Full back
Dally M Captain*
Dally M Player of the year
The golden boot
And a premiership. He doesn’t have much more to achieve in the NRL. Good luck to him and his dreams. He needs a new challenge.**
*It was a token gesture.
**Warriors maiden premiership obviously doesn't mean much when RTS is busy collecting individual accolades..
 

Noitall

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Aug 21, 2019
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*It was a token gesture.
**Warriors maiden premiership obviously doesn't mean much when RTS is busy collecting individual accolades..
Though I don’t totally agree, I can see where you’re coming from. Makes you wonder if it’s an admission that our first premiership is a ways off or the windows closing for his lifelong ambition. I lean toward the latter and hope he’s doing it now because the club will be in a better position with emerging players to fill the position and cap money spare.
 
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Rilakkuma

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May 19, 2012
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I get that it shit he is leaving. But Roger is the right player, in the wrong team! He would probably have three premierships if he had stayed with the Roosters!
He busted his ass every week for us in a shit team. So now we have some size in the pack, we might see his best yet. I hope that he goes out a champ here. Im sure he wont sit back and wait out the season.
 

Dixpat

All in the Brown stuff!
Contributor
Feb 3, 2014
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Players don't have the right. to break a contract. This was a mutual understanding and like he said he's known about it since last year so I assume this was probably discussed last year maybe even when the pandemic hit.
Off course if clubs want to be dicks they can so even if a player has a reasonable request and the player could in return play shit for the rest of his contract till they let him go. VIce versa a club may want to get rid of a player that they think is over paid but the player refuses to shop around so they decide to just bench him with 0 game time dropping his value over time until he decides it's better to find another club.
Overall I guess the players do have the slight advantage in that they can effect the whole team morale.
A bit more than slight!

In my view the Warriors should have put Union to the test and demanded that they buy out his contract as his contract for next year had value to the organisation (branding, sponsorship etc.) which they will now not benefit from.
 

Gizzyfan

Warriors 1st Grader
Jan 2, 2013
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A bit more than slight!

In my view the Warriors should have put Union to the test and demanded that they buy out his contract as his contract for next year had value to the organisation (branding, sponsorship etc.) which they will now not benefit from.

Union would say rack off, they are dealing with RTS, not the Club, an NRL contract has no hold over them.
 

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