Recruitment Roger Tuivasa-Sheck Signing & Sam Tomkins Release Discussion

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"Previously NRL players who had signed with a different club mid-season were given until June 30 to change their minds but that rule has since changed to Round 13 – giving players until June 8 to renege on their deals."

https://m.nrl.com/parker-cold-on-cooling-off-period/tabid/10874/newsid/85591/default.aspx

That would make it the Monday 8th June if nrl.com is correct (I would assume it is but who knows....), so hopefully come the end of Monday it is all finally signed sealed delivered and registered!
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Johns had just gotten swept up in giving Tui a wrap. He said "This bloke his be great at fullback when Tomkins is gone."

I wouldn't read anything into it other than Johns had forgotten about us signing Roger Tuivasa-Sheck.

He also followed that up with how fast James Roberts is when he burned Hoffman from the scrum (um think you mean Dane Gagai). Apart from what they watch in the highlight reels 5 minutes before they start their show. Those knobheads would have no idea about the Warriors.
 
Roger Tuivasa-Sheck wants to be an All black!

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Roger Tuivasa-Sheck left the Roosters to support his family and follow his All Blacks dream
August 14, 2015 8:00pm
Paul CrawleyThe Daily Telegraph

Roosters coach Trent Robinson focused on NRL Finals
“I think it is every Kiwi boy’s (dream) to be an All Black and it is definitely mine,” Tuivasa-Sheck revealed ahead of Saturday night’s clash against Parramatta.

“Hopefully, one day that dream happens.”

In a wide-ranging interview with The Daily Telegraph, Tuivasa-Sheck opened up about how he broke down in tears when he told his Roosters teammates that he was joining the Warriors next year.

He also revealed he knocked back an offer to play rugby union next year before he accepted the Warriors’ three-year deal worth a reported $800,000 a season.

Tuivasa-Sheck was blown away by teammates’ support for his decision.
“We had a rugby union offer on the table,” the former New Zealand rugby union schoolboy representative said.

“It was in New Zealand. I sort of told (his manager) that I feel like I am still growing in league. I feel like I am still to peak.

“I don’t want to be the average league player that almost made it. I really wanted to do something in the game.”

But what he didn’t want to do was tell his teammates.

“I didn’t really know how to say it to the boys,” he said.

“But then every night I went home and saw the family and thought what I could do for them.

“The opportunity the Warriors are giving me, I am going to be able to keep my family in Sydney and they get to live the Sydney lifestyle.

“I think my family deserve it. We didn’t have a tough life but we grew up in a tough area. It was all about go to work, come home, wake up early and go to work again.”


And while he would have loved to stay with the Roosters, he said family had to come first.

“In the end I just said I have to do it, I have to man up and tell them I won’t be a part next year,” he said.

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Tuivasa-Sheck hasn’t let up since deciding to leave the Roosters.
Coach Trent Robinson was the first person he told, and he couldn’t believe the reaction.

“He was shocked,” Tuivasa-Sheck said. “But I just couldn’t believe how awesome he was.

“I told him my reasons and he said: ‘It’s OK, I believe you. I know you’re not the person to go chasing anything’.

“He knew my true reasons and he supported me.”

So did his teammates.

“I started to weep because I was getting so emotional,” he said.

“They just all said if that is what you have to do you have to do it. We will still support you and love you. That was a massive weight lifted off my shoulders.”

Since making the decision, he certainly hasn’t clocked off. In his first year as starting fullback, Tuivasa-Sheck is closing in fast on former teammate Anthony Minichiello’s record for the most running metres in an NRL year.

In Fox Sports Stats data dating back to 2000, Minichiello set the benchmark in 2004 with 4590 metres in 25 games.

From 20 games this year Tuivasa-Sheck is currently at 4225m, which is an average of 211m a game.

That has him on track to race past Minichiello’s mark next week against the Broncos, with still two rounds of the regular season to play and then the finals. But he said the main motivation driving him now was leaving Bondi on a high.

“Desperately. I definitely feel like I want to leave on a positive
 
He'd make an awesome rugby player. That's for sure...

Awesome league player as well.... Can't wait for him to arrive next year...
 
Another Roger Tuivasa-Sheck article from the SMH. Also a good read.

Why Roger Tuivasa-Sheck's left foot is the NRL's most important commodity
Date August 14, 2015 - 8:48PM
Andrew Webster
Chief Sports Writer, The Sydney Morning Herald
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Acrobatic: Roger Tuivasa-Sheck plants one down against Newcastle last weekend. Photo: Jonathan Carroll

Left foot! Left foot! Left foot!

We can all sit there, armchair halfbacks and Monday experts that we are, and see it coming.

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Popular: Roger Tuivasa-Sheck is swamped by teammates after scoring at Hunter Stadium. Photo: Jonathan Carroll

So can the other team. They've pored over vision of Roger Tuivasa-Sheck all week. They've been drilled by their defensive coaches about how to shut it down.

In the heat of battle, they will quickly move up in a straight line, hunting down the Roosters fullback. On the kick return, as the defenders swarm, they scream at each other about what's to come.

Left foot! Left foot! Left foot!

"Then he goes, 'Bang!' off the left foot and beats them anyway," chuckles Roosters five-eighth James Maloney. "They know it's coming and still can't stop it. It's just become the norm now. It's the expectation of Roger."

Says coach Trent Robinson: "Stepping around corners. Most people know it's there, but there's a right foot as well."

Says winger Daniel Tupou: "I take the second run after him and it's pretty funny because they [the other team] still can't get it right. It happens all the time. It happens at training. I tell him to do that to me. He runs at me. I know he'll go left, but then he goes back to the right, back to the left ... He's a freak."

Says speed coach Hayden Knowles: "We have world-class players in our side. But in pre-season he just embarrassed other guys. He's ridiculous."

Says back-rower Boyd Cordner: "He never steps me at training. I just watch. When they talk about a change of direction at speed, I've watched him from behind and he moves sideways. Three metres sideways."

What did we ever do before YouTube? If you've got a spare hour, search for Tuivasa-Sheck and overdose on the highlights from the last three seasons. The try that stands above all of them came against Melbourne at AAMI Park last year, when he was playing on the right wing. Maloney spiralled a long, cut-out pass to Tuivasa-Sheck. Opposite him stood the Storm's Young Tonumaipea, who'd shown a metre of grass between himself and the sideline. About enough room for a ghost to slip through. Then it came.

Left foot! Left foot! Left foot!
Well, just the one. Tuivasa-Sheck then shimmied back the other way, his hips moving like a snake. Tonumaipea threw out an arm but all he caught was a cold. Try in the corner.

"This fella could sneak through a keyhole!" boomed Phil Gould on Channel Nine's commentary.

"That is the freakiest one I've ever seen," recalls Tupou. "He just had that small gap. Left foot ... "

If you're looking for an explanation to when the left foot is coming and how the left foot happens, don't ask the person who the left foot belongs to.

"Sometimes I don't know what I'm going to do," Tuivasa-Sheck says. "Sometimes I just go off what I think the opposition is going to do. If I see a player leaning in too much, or I see him over-chasing, I work off that. But if I get into tight situations, I just go left foot, left foot, left foot."

Tuivasa-Sheck stands before his teammates at the Roosters' offices in Moore Park in April this year, the tears welling in his eyes.

He's sad but also pissed off, because the news has broken prematurely – it always does – that he has signed a fat contract with the Warriors from next season.

"I will get the job done," he tells them, referring to the rest of his year. "I won't let anyone down."

Tuivasa-Sheck, 22, remembers it this way: "I was angry because it was leaked out before I had my time to tell the boys. There was media all over. Everyone was asking, 'What's going on?' We all came up to the office and I stood in front of them and told them the news. Just looking at the faces when I was talking, was very emotional. It came down to the Sydney Roosters and my family. It came down to those two, split down the middle. I made the final call for personal reasons."

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Touchdown: Roger Tuivasa-Sheck dives over to score a try in the corner. Photo: Matt King

It also came down to about $800,000 a season, which was almost double what the Roosters could afford under the constraints of the salary cap. Matthew Johns reckoned it was an "expensive mistake", because Tuivasa-Sheck would benefit more staying at a club like the Roosters. The feeling at the club was that the offer was literally too good to refuse, although Roosters recruitment manager Peter O'Sullivan admitted he was "personally gutted".

"We brought him over here [from New Zealand] when he was 18-years-old," he told News Corp. "We set him up, we employed him. We helped his family and it's well documented 'Mini' [former Roosters fullback Anthony Minichiello] helped him with his fullback play and diet. The coaching staff has made him the player he is today."

With the ink now dry on the deal, Roosters players are already regretting his absence next season, but want to make the most of Tuivasa-Sheck's form as they warm towards a second premiership in three years. "I understood why he signed with the Warriors," says Robinson. "Roger came and talked to me about it. I truly respect him as a person, and what he's done. He made those decisions for the right reasons, for him. I'm cool with all that. I just wanted to make the most of it this year. I didn't want to treat him differently, and that he knew we respected him."

Since then, Tuivasa-Sheck has seemingly taken his game to another level, although the coach rejects the notion that it was a turning point in his fullback's season. "He was impressive from round one," he says. "He hit the ground running."

Running? He hasn't stopped, clocking 4692 metres from 436 runs heading into Saturday night's match at Allianz Stadium against Parramatta. The nearest player is Storm prop Jesse Bromwich (3233m from 342 runs).

Tuivasa-Sheck has been in a hurry from the moment former coach Brian Smith slotted him onto the wing against the Gold Coast in round 21 in 2012. "How about this young winger?" asked one reporter at the post-match media conference. "How do you pronounce that name again?"

"It's pretty simple," replied Smith. "Tuivasa-Sheck. You'll remember that name."

It's not so much the name as the step they remember now. Actually, they remember the acronym. You've made it when you're just an acronym. SBW. DCE. SKD. The kiddies out there in suburbia and beyond simply call him "Roger Tuivasa-Sheck".

The NRL can deploy platoons of marketing spivs to sell the game, but nothing draws in the kiddies like a player who can step.

They once mimicked Brad Fitter. And Mark Gasnier. And Karmichael Hunt. And Benji Marshall. And Shaun Johnson. Right now, it's Roger Tuivasa-Sheck. Depending on your vintage, the most memorable left foot in the history of the modern game belonged to Fittler.

He would run at a defensive line, snapping off the left foot so hard you wondered if it might get stuck in the turf. Talk to rival coaches from the 1990s, when Fittler's left foot was at its deadliest, and they explain the magic in that step was that it couldn't be predicted. "It would come on the stride before you expected it," says one. "It was unstoppable."

While Gasnier had a shimmy, and Hunt and Marshall and Johnson have a lot of skip and hop and air-time in their step, the mesmerising part of Tuivasa-Sheck's is the ease of it. They talk about soft hands in cricket. He has soft feet. He doesn't step off his left foot as much as glide off it, with devastating consequence. "And he's powerful," says halfback Mitchell Pearce. "He's got a big arse and legs, and he's tough. He will challenge big guys."

Says Robinson: "It's very different. Even guys that try to mimic it, it doesn't come off because they lose too much power off it. For some reason, he has a huge angle on that step. But he's also got a really strong right foot, too."

The story is well worn but worth retelling about Tuivasa-Sheck growing up in South Auckland, in the backyard stepping around witches' hat that had been positioned by his father, Johnny. His friends would be elsewhere, playing touch footy. "Roger was jealous of the other boys," says Robinson. "But not so much now."

That unrelenting work ethic has carried through to Tuivasa-Sheck's professional career. The effortless beauty of what Roger Tuivasa-Sheck does on the field contradicts the hours on the training paddock nobody sees except for teammates and coaches.

Knowles says the coaching staff will tell their fullback not to do extras. He does it anyway. "There are days when we don't want him doing anything," says Knowles. "But he's out there doing footwork drills."

That explains why he has transitioned from wing to fullback so quickly, something that isn't easily done because of the extra fitness needed to stop tries, return kicks and support play.

"Mini was also great at organising our defence," says Maloney. "Roger picked that up straight away. Even I am surprised at how quickly he's adapted to the fullback role. We knew he had the ability to do it, but I thought it would be towards the end of this season when he fired. There's been no learning curve. Round one: bang!"

The kiddies want to be Roger Tuivasa-Sheck, but when he was younger he wanted to be The Plane. "I just loved Jarryd Hayne," Tuivasa-Sheck says. "When I was a kid at school, and it was all about rugby union, we had our State of Origin battles. I went for NSW because of Jarryd Hayne." Knowles is best placed to compare Hayne to Tuivasa-Sheck, because he has spent more time than anyone honing the former Parramatta star into the player he is today; the player who is poised to play in the NFL for the San Francisco 49ers. First, he says Tuivasa-Sheck has adapted quicker from winger to fullback. "And they're different runners of the ball," says Knowles. "Jarryd was all about power. But where they are similar is their work ethic. There's a perception that Jarryd didn't care, but he was a closet student of the game. Roger is the same. That step you see? He works as hard as anyone."

It's reassuring to report that Tuivasa-Sheck's giant left foot step doesn't come with a similar sized ego. "None at all," says Maloney. "He did everything he could do to earn the boys' respect from the moment he came into first grade."

For his part, Tuivasa-Sheck still has his father waiting a home, with the TV in the family's lounge room on pause, ready to point out something that he's done wrong as soon as his son walks through the door.

Tuivasa-Sheck received a flood of text messages congratulating him on his three tries in the 38-22 win against Newcastle last Sunday.

"But I couldn't get past the two tries I let in," he says awkwardly. "I always have moments in the game when I wish I could've done better. That's the way I look at games, and that's helping me. I always have my dad there, criticising my game. He only sees the bad parts that I play. Every time I get home, he will point that out straight away. I always try to make it perfect each game."

Keep working, Roger Tuivasa-Sheck, but just leave that left foot alone. The right one, too. The ones that matter most – the kiddies – think they're perfect just as they are.

Left foot! Left foot! Left foot!

"I like that Roger Tuivasa-Sheck steps sideways," says Kaelan Jackson, 7, who plays for North Sydney Brothers under-8s. "I like that he steps both ways, and he gets past most of the defenders. And sometimes all of them."

https://m.smh.com.au/rugby-league/s...most-important-commodity-20150814-giz1e6.html
 
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Tomkins looks pretty good today but the Warriors are really getting let down by the edge defence. Its a glimpse of what might have been but he just hasnt been involved enough in his time at the Warriors. The lack of kick returns is a huge black mark against him since hes been here too.

I actually feel sorry for Tomkins after tonight, he has too much talent to have been wasted at the Warriors. Hes a good defender and a great handler, the Warriors have just never been able to use his talents, hes covering one side of the field to the other just to have tries scored on the edges over and over again
 
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Tomkins looks pretty good today but the Warriors are really getting let down by the edge defence. Its a glimpse of what might have been but he just hasnt been involved enough in his time at the Warriors. The lack of kick returns is a huge black mark against him since hes been here too.

I actually feel sorry for Tomkins after tonight, he has too much talent to have been wasted at the Warriors. Hes a good defender and a great handler, the Warriors have just never been able to use his talents, hes covering one side of the field to the other just to have tries scored on the edges over and over again

don't know what games you been watching but tomkins is awful
every other fullback in the comp can run a 90 mtr try in from a kick return except tomkins
 
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I am staggered RE his try scoring record for Wigan. He's not fast, he can't hold his balance, he doesn't have great footwork, all he is is a bloke who can flick the ball on on the edges and it seems teams have figured that out now too. Preston Campbell, Matt Bowen, even Clinton Schifcofske, they certainly weren't big but they were willing to get belted off an offload in the middle. They were willing to step in behind the forwards. Tomkins has nothing.

Hey Deano Bell champ, good work trying to set up a partnership with Wigan. Denis Betts, Andy Platt, Tomkins, all shithouse and not NRL standard.

Roger Tuivasa-Sheck, Isaac Luke, one thing they will do is provide multiple points of attack, which will mean teams won't be able to set up camp on Johnson only.
 
Good points on Campbell, Bowen and Schifcofske being small and still managing to break tackles etc. They were also pretty good bringing the ball back. Tomkins looks like he's getting crushed on any return he doesn't palm the ball off to a winger. Sure the other guys played in a different time but for Bowen and Campbell it wasn't too long ago. Used to love watching Schifcoske back in the day.

A few posters have hinted Tomkins wouldn't be homesick if he was playing for the Roosters or another team going well. There could be something in this as the rumours of him being homesick were around last year so he may have started to want out when he realised what sort of mess he signed for; then we sacked our coach. Getting smashed every week probably hasn't helped.

Watching the two of them this year. As good a player Tomkins is; he's competitive and reads the game well and provides us with space on the edges. In Roger Tuivasa-Sheck we are getting a player who seems all round a lot more comfortable in the NRL.

Roger Tuivasa-Sheck would make a hell of a union player. Hopefully we get our shit together while he's here and with the increase in the salary cap we give him the marquee money so any decision to leave is a hard one.
 
Roger Tuivasa-Sheck is probably coming over at the perfect time to become an AB, 2 years with the Warriors, leave after 1 year, sign with a super franchise, play 2 years and about then Ben Smith will be chasing money in Europe, AB spot open, he could be an AB for 7 or 8 years
 
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Roger Tuivasa-Sheck wants to be an All black!

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Roger Tuivasa-Sheck left the Roosters to support his family and follow his All Blacks dream
August 14, 2015 8:00pm
Paul CrawleyThe Daily Telegraph

This is what erks me about Roger Tuivasa-Sheck. He's not coming here with a goal in mind to help the Warriors change. He's coming to earn a paycheck and find this way into the AB's.

Anyone thinking he's going to catalyst us to better things are kidding themselves.