General Reffs Too Soft

[bigstu]

what is it gunna take for a player to get sent off in the nrl this season there has been alot of dangerous plays yet the most severe punishment the ref will give is a player on report. you could probably stab someone in a scrum and only get put on report. shouldn't a spear tackle be an automatic 10mins? a boot to someones face 10mins? unless your a origin star.

 

[Buck777]

I'd say that Inu is in a whole lot of trouble. His angry pills he took in last years GF have had a residual effect

 

[bigstu]

yea he'll be done he's a kiwi. yet slater gets off trying to copy the karate kid

 

[Buck777]

yea he'll be done he's a kiwi. yet slater gets off trying to copy the karate kid

I agree that slater got off too easy, but that was a stupid tackle from Inu. Even Hasler has said admitted that he won't see him back for a while

 

[mt.wellington]

Ok. This is going to sound crazy but I believe Inglis PURPOSELY put himself into that position just to milk a penalty!!! Sounds insane but Im going to call it.

This is the only footage I can find at the moment. The first replay shows Inglis spring load his right leg then jump...

 

[wallacenz]

Ok. This is going to sound crazy but I believe Inglis PURPOSELY put himself into that position just to milk a penalty!!! Sounds insane but Im going to call it.

This is the only footage I can find at the moment. The first replay shows Inglis spring load his right leg then jump...

yeah i said the same in another thread, it looked like he was trying to flip or forward roll

 

[bigstu]

don't know a player that would getting a neck injury just for a penalty

 

[wallacenz]

don't know a player that would getting a neck injury just for a penalty

no but the way i see it is if youre getting tipped you would rather land on you shoulder than chest. on your chest is break your back position, shoulder is more natural. therefore tucking your head or attempting to get elevation then tuck your head while you flip forward makes sense.. unless you get it wrong

 

[Makasene]

Ok. This is going to sound crazy but I believe Inglis PURPOSELY put himself into that position just to milk a penalty!!! Sounds insane but Im going to call it.

This is the only footage I can find at the moment. The first replay shows Inglis spring load his right leg then jump...

Couldn't disagree more.

To me you can clearly see Inu try to lift him, not once but twice. I'd give him 4 weeks. It would be about 12 - 15 weeks in Union.[DOUBLEPOST=1364597600][/DOUBLEPOST]

what is it gunna take for a player to get sent off in the nrl this season there has been alot of dangerous plays yet the most severe punishment the ref will give is a player on report. you could probably stab someone in a scrum and only get put on report. shouldn't a spear tackle be an automatic 10mins? a boot to someones face 10mins? unless your a origin star.

I don't think the Sin Bin works like that.

The Sin Bin is generally used for Professional Fouls such as laying all over a player that has made a big break. Also used for dissent towards the refs and a bit of fisticuffs.

A player wouldn't get sent to the Sin Bin for Foul Play, rather the ref must decide whether it warrants a send off or whether it goes on report for the match review panel to look at.

IMO Inu should have been marched for that tackle, he could have put Inglis in a wheel chair.

 

[OMG]

Ok. This is going to sound crazy but I believe Inglis PURPOSELY put himself into that position just to milk a penalty!!! Sounds insane but Im going to call it.

This is the only footage I can find at the moment. The first replay shows Inglis spring load his right leg then jump...

You are insane-that was as good a brain snap as Graham in the final..one the worst I have ever seen. He is fucked he intentionally put his hands between Inglis's legs and lifted, he may as well bit him or hopa'd him, 6 week minimum deserves 12.

 

[Defence]

After watching a couple of different angles I think the tackle would've turned out fine if the 12 from the bulldogs hadn't fallen off. The 12 ( Jackson?) was controlling the upper body and inu looks to lift the leg and drive from the side which would usually put the attacker on his back but inglis is super strong and they were having trouble- inglis is pushing forward and jackson loses control and as he falls forward inu lifts the leg- looked ugly and he did lift between the legs- should get a couple of weeks but I don't think he meant to drop him on his head. It was more reckless than intentional

 

[OMG]

After watching a couple of different angles I think the tackle would've turned out fine if the 12 from the bulldogs hadn't fallen off. The 12 ( Jackson?) was controlling the upper body and inu looks to lift the leg and drive from the side which would usually put the attacker on his back but inglis is super strong and they were having trouble- inglis is pushing forward and jackson loses control and as he falls forward inu lifts the leg- looked ugly and he did lift between the legs- should get a couple of weeks but I don't think he meant to drop him on his head. It was more reckless than intentional

Inu looks pissed, he had plenty of time to drop him he knew exactly what he was doing, he has a couple of attempts at that leg and not only does he lift he follows through.

edit. just seen this vision https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/s...nish-ugly-tackle/story-e6frexp9-1226609200483

Inu gritting his teeth looks terrible and as Brandy says "you lose all control once he is the air"
Taylor got 5 weeks for his one a couple of years ago and this one is far worse.

 

[¿N. ig-mah¿]

Inu looks pissed, he had plenty of time to drop him he knew exactly what he was doing, he has a couple of attempts at that leg and not only does he lift he follows through.

edit. just seen this vision https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/s...nish-ugly-tackle/story-e6frexp9-1226609200483

Inu gritting his teeth looks terrible and as Brandy says "you lose all control once he is the air"
Taylor got 5 weeks for his one a couple of years ago and this one is far worse.

I don't have a strong opinion either way with this one. Clearly Inu grabs between the legs and attempts to lift twice, but it also looks like Inglis springs off the other leg. But one thing I know is you can't see Inu gritting his teeth. He is wearing a mouth-guard. It has a teeth pattern on it. Maybe it looks like he is gritting his teeth, but its just a misfortunate design on the mouth-guard.

I bet Inu gets enough time off to rule him out of Kiwis contention, though. Kiwis always do.

 

[Defence]

Inu looks pissed, he had plenty of time to drop him he knew exactly what he was doing, he has a couple of attempts at that leg and not only does he lift he follows through.

edit. just seen this vision https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/s...nish-ugly-tackle/story-e6frexp9-1226609200483

Inu gritting his teeth looks terrible and as Brandy says "you lose all control once he is the air"
Taylor got 5 weeks for his one a couple of years ago and this one is far worse.

I'm probably wrong- I always seem to think the judiciary is too harsh but it's very hard to prove intent esp when there is two in the tackle.
If Ross didn't mean to knee rapira in the head and slater didn't mean to kick klemmer straight in the face I don't know how they they could say this was intentional either

 

[wallacenz]

I don't have a strong opinion either way with this one. Clearly Inu grabs between the legs and attempts to lift twice, but it also looks like Inglis springs off the other leg. But one thing I know is you can't see Inu gritting his teeth. He is wearing a mouth-guard. It has a teeth pattern on it. Maybe it looks like he is gritting his teeth, but its just a misfortunate design on the mouth-guard.

I bet Inu gets enough time off to rule him out of Kiwis contention, though. Kiwis always do.

I dont think any of us are saying Inu isnt lifting but like you say we do think Inglis contributes just prior to getting off the ground completely.

 

[OMG]

I'm probably wrong- I always seem to think the judiciary is too harsh but it's very hard to prove intent esp when there is two in the tackle.
If Ross didn't mean to knee rapira in the head and slater didn't mean to kick klemmer straight in the face I don't know how they they could say this was intentional either

Intent is easy to prove because he had 2 goes between the legs and got it right with the 2nd one, whether anyone else contributes is regardless, if it was a straight out lifting tackle with no hand between the legs he may have an excuse and call it accidental, but the hand between the legs and lifting is like tackling someone around the head and saying I thought that I was allowed to tackle the head.
Harrigan has come out and said the video refs should have intervened and sent him off, it doesn't get any more expert than that.
I reckon they are having trouble with what to charge him with though and the intent side of it, but after the judiciary botch ups so far this season Inu will have the book thrown at him IMO.

 

[Defence]

Mate u see people lifting the legs in every second tackle- end of the day if Jackson doesn't let go of his upper body there is no issue. U make some good points but there is no way u can say for certain that it was intentional- your bit a mind reader

 

[Bluecat again]

In todays game to dump someone on their head illegally is just stupid. The player must get caught and penalised. And Inu has brainfarts but he isn't stupid. I watched it last night along with a few replays and thought it was clumsy and unlucky. He was trying to stop a bigger faster man and couldn't let go to get a better grip ( imagine Hasler in the dressing room after the game if he did let go and Inglis broke free) He had the leg and was trying to put Inglis down, Inglis was pushing forward, the inevitable happened. Inu will miss the Test Match, the NRL will will be rapt that they have a non Aussie high profile player to make an example of and will stamp on him then issue all sorts of press releases congratulating themselves for taking a hard line, and it will all be forgotten

 

[tajhay]

test

 

[OMG]

Mate u see people lifting the legs in every second tackle- end of the day if Jackson doesn't let go of his upper body there is no issue. U make some good points but there is no way u can say for certain that it was intentional- your bit a mind reader

Comes back to rules and grading, intentional,careless, reckless.
Does Inu carelessly or recklessly put the hand between his legs? IMO no that is intent. I think his intent is actually in his left arm and hand and the drag down he does with it, his hand positioning means there is only one possible outcome.