General NRL Expansion

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Yes they could do it but logistically would it be worth their while. Things to consider are -
Where would they play?
Would a team in Wgtn appeal to investors & sponsors?
Is there sufficient support in Wgtn for rugby league to consistently bring the crowd?
Granted players would still come from throughout NZ but is their grass roots stronger than Auckland & how would the imported players feel about living there.?

I don't think the NRl would bother - we are not that important to warrant such considerations
And add to that the Hurricanes - how many people would rather punt their "watch sports game/attend sports game" in the Hurricanes direction, given how well they've been going recently?

It's just lucky for the Warriors to be based here in Auckland with a mis-firing Blues team. Imagine how many fence-sitters would go to Eden Park if they started firing? I know the Warriors haven't really started firing either, but bear in mind the pricing reductions bought in this year. That would have helped slow the rot.

It's Auckland, Auckland or Auckland methinks as far as the NRL is concerned.
 
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Watched a really interesting Doco a couple of days ago about the US. Bear with me.

Most cities in the US have a population under 1 million. The US is huge, and most cities let alone the towns etc are really far apart. As such in the US, outside of a city that has a local First Grade team, the sports that they support are based on college level sports, because they may never ever get to a FG game . Even the betting is set up to support this. Local derbies are huge and much effort is made to support a local college team.

Auckland on the US scale is a big city and would feature in the top 10 for size in the US. But it doesn't have that lower level support for sports at the school level, because NZ doesnt have a college level at all. It goes from school sport to pro sport. There is no culture of supporting anyone between your local team and the FG team ever developed. Australia is no different. Europe is totally different due to population and proximity. There the rivalries are centuries old and the closeness of everyone means that its easy to hold on to that culture.

Look at NZ fiercest opponents for Rugby, once the South African team, it is now the Australians, why, because they are close.

Rugby and League are fringe sports world wide and like a lot of fringe sports popular in certain cities where the rivalry is strong locally. Just like AFL in Melbourne. If they want to expand these sports into new locations they need a popular rivalry to make it happen. They need to find a way to recreate the US college system and get people growing with a culture of supporting their local team. After all why was the warriors introduction into the NRL so big, because finally Kiwis would be able to stick it to the Aussies in an Aussie comp, instead of having to play for other Australian teams. Why do so many who supported a team from before the Warriors pick the team they did, most often because they followed a local player who joined it. And often supported the team with the most Kiwis in it.

Before Perth becomes a successful destination for an NRL team, the locals need something in the pot to support. Or it will end up like the Titans, where the crowds are made up more from away fans than locals. Even the Storm was looking at folding before they got caught routing the cap. It was only the local media backlash against the NRL taking away a Melbourne Trophy that saved the team. They still have no skin in the game, but they do have a real attitude of them vs us to keep fans coming back.

Honestly given how much NZ and Australia look like the US geographically, I cant see expansion working until they deal with this imbalance. Build it and they will come only works in the movies, and even then it only works once.
 
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Need to make some hard decisions and cut a couple of Syd teams
They knew that in 1987, honest. Don't hold your breath.
 
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They knew that in 1987, honest. Don't hold your breath.
Been listening to the ‘Rugby League Digest’ podcast, according to them it’s been known since 1970(they were aiming for 6 and bringing in Illawarra,Canberra,Newcastle and Central coast or Campbelltown), is it just Newtown, Norths and half of Saints and Wests/Balmain since then?
 
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Been listening to the ‘Rugby League Digest’ podcast, according to them it’s been known since 1970(they were aiming for 6 and bringing in Illawarra,Canberra,Newcastle and Central coast or Campbelltown), is it just Newtown, Norths and half of Saints and Wests/Balmain since then?
It's a good listen.
 
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Been listening to the ‘Rugby League Digest’ podcast, according to them it’s been known since 1970(they were aiming for 6 and bringing in Illawarra,Canberra,Newcastle and Central coast or Campbelltown), is it just Newtown, Norths and half of Saints and Wests/Balmain since then?
Bearing in mind back then the money was nothing like it is now. Very few Poms came down here because of that. Most players had to have decent paying jobs albeit most of them were arranged by the club. So it was a very high standard of rugby league because of the lack of players in FG.
 
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