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gREVUS

Long live the Rainbows and Butterflies
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May 8, 2012
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honestly we lost 2 on the road, its not the end of the world.

As to the trying to hard comment, I totally get it. They put attack ahead of defence, didnt work for tries, just threw the ball around. This left players out of position, tired from sideways running and trying every stupid play their little minds could think of.

We've seen it before. Manu used to do it often, trying to take up the slack of the rest of the team. Only in this case the players are trying to cover for a player that isn't even here anymore. All the press, all the talk was about how will they make up the short fall of SJ. So now they all have this attitude that they need to be the one to make up the short fall. Its this attitude that means the team structure has fallen apart.

I'm not saying that everything from here will go swimmingly but I recognise that what we have seen is nothing new. Calm the team down, stop expecting someone to become another SJ and work to the strengths of the team they have and they will win some games.
 

FuNQie

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Nov 30, 2018
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Try to hard, don't try enough no wonder they only get it right every 5th week.

This club is like a pot of gumbo. I know soup would be a better analogy for a New Zealand/Australian based audience but I've been watching a lot of American shows and feel like using the word gumbo.

Anyway like a good recipe you need to get it right. Train them to hard and their flat, don't train them hard enough and they get winded. You need to get the mix right.

Also like cooking you need to cook for your audience. If you move your restaurant to another city or state they may want it more spicy, or you may need to serve less brussel sprouts (that should be a given;)). We need to get the recipe right when we are on the road, stop serving the player spicy food to start.

Anyway this is all way to complicated and probably going to send us all into the psych ward. Read the above I'm already starting to lose it.
I see.
I think.
Are you trying to say that maybe the team didn’t do so well because the players were given some brussels sprouts after training? :sorry:
 
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bruce

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They have to want it for themselves. If they don't there's no chance.
Mate that is the million dollar question that has ALWAYS affected the Warriors. Do you want to win son? Yes. Do you want to win more than the other guy though? :oops:...a

Having said that, and as a golf tragic, I get amazed at the PGA Tour pros who smile and congratulate each other on shots when deep down you know they hate each other's guts and are lying through their teeth. Away from the camera I am assured it is very different and always has been.
 

jonno

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Jul 13, 2014
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Mate that is the million dollar question that has ALWAYS affected the Warriors. Do you want to win son? Yes. Do you want to win more than the other guy though? :oops:...a

Having said that, and as a golf tragic, I get amazed at the PGA Tour pros who smile and congratulate each other on shots when deep down you know they hate each other's guts and are lying through their teeth. Away from the camera I am assured it is very different and always has been.
I think as they are all wearing sponsors logos, whenever there's a camera around they smile and laugh. It helps to pay the bills if their swing falls apart.

Our guys do that because they love the players in the opposition more than they love winning the game. It's a tribal thing.
 
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mrblonde

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Apr 14, 2012
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Got 5th last year and knocked us out in the first round of the playoff. Literally.

They also have Ivan Cleary and his son. Our ex coach who didn’t want to leave us and his son our ex-ball boy. They also have our ex-6 in Maloney.

They are building a castle.

We are building a tree house.

They are better than us.

My money's on Ivan Cleary either leaving Penrith before his 5 years are up or Ivan and Nathan having to have that really shitty conversation (even without worrying how frosty this little chat is going to make those family Sunday roast dinners...) that can be summed up in five words - "mate, we're letting you go." Everyone's got their bright torches shining on Nathan yelling "Potential! Potential! The boy has Potential!" They'll get sick of yelling that soon enough...
 

mrblonde

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I think as they are all wearing sponsors logos, whenever there's a camera around they smile and laugh. It helps to pay the bills if their swing falls apart.

Our guys do that because they love the players in the opposition more than they love winning the game. It's a tribal thing.

It's also a good look for the public. Do you really want Woods and Mikkleson in fisties on the seventh tee? Fun to watch? Absolutely. Bad for the game? Yup....

Does your tribal thing stick with poor Australian clubs, by the way? Not like there's not shite white players out there, after all and by your theory, there must be teams with even more "tribes", or at least bigger ones otherwise we'd be last. I do agree with - if this is your main point- the idea that players, like employees in any business, aren't there to be besties. Workmate first - which means not letting anyone down first, mate you have over to watch the footy second.
 
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jonno

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It's also a good look for the public. Do you really want Woods and Mikkleson in fisties on the seventh tee? Fun to watch? Absolutely. Bad for the game? Yup....

Does your tribal thing stick with poor Australian clubs, by the way? Not like there's not shite white players out there, after all and by your theory, there must be teams with even more "tribes", or at least bigger ones otherwise we'd be last. I do agree with - if this is your main point- the idea that players, like employees in any business, aren't there to be besties. Workmate first - which means not letting anyone down first, mate you have over to watch the footy second.
No I'm just grumpy with the same behavior pattern repeating over and over again. I'd actually like the club to be filled with some of Australia's crap players for a couple of weeks, just for something different to complain about.

Variety is the spice of life after all.

And we all know our guys can do better. They just don't seem to want to.
 

snake77

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Jul 12, 2013
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Keen to see how Lawton and Sao go this weekend. Chances are even if they go well they'll only be there temporarily.

Lawton when he has been given a shot has been busy. It would of been good to get more than one week out of Roache, Luke is now injured but also looked like he was still a few weeks off from being near his best. Can see Lawton getting out of dummy half whenever there is an opportunity.

Sao last year gave us some physicality in the middle and was unlucky not to see first grade again.
 

bruce

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Just looking at the Manly stats.

Jazz must be lucky to hold his place. 5 missed tackles against the Tigers an 3 against Manly. I have to apologise to Fus, only 2 missed tackles against the Sea Eagles but 3 for Kata.

Keighran was a veritable turnstile though against both the Tigers and Manly 5 and 4 respectively. Pretty bad. Green wasn't much better with 2 and 3 respectively. Looks as though clubs have worked that out, run at the halves. They didn't do that with SJ.

Papaili made 44 tackles and only missed 2 against Manly.

However the champion is Hiku. What a revolving door, 5 missed tackles against Manly and 3 against the Tigers. WTF is a player like that doing in the side? Especially when he didn't contribute much on attack.

but wait...there is more...Tohu Harris 6 missed tackles against Manly and he only made 23. FFS was he sick or something?

That many missed tackles should mean ISP next week. It would with Melbourne. Heyzuss spare me what chance have we tomorrow night?
 

BeastMode

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Mar 7, 2015
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Just looking at the Manly stats.

Jazz must be lucky to hold his place. 5 missed tackles against the Tigers an 3 against Manly. I have to apologise to Fus, only 2 missed tackles against the Sea Eagles but 3 for Kata.

Keighran was a veritable turnstile though against both the Tigers and Manly 5 and 4 respectively. Pretty bad. Green wasn't much better with 2 and 3 respectively. Looks as though clubs have worked that out, run at the halves. They didn't do that with SJ.

Papaili made 44 tackles and only missed 2 against Manly.

However the champion is Hiku. What a revolving door, 5 missed tackles against Manly and 3 against the Tigers. WTF is a player like that doing in the side? Especially when he didn't contribute much on attack.

but wait...there is more...Tohu Harris 6 missed tackles against Manly and he only made 23. FFS was he sick or something?

That many missed tackles should mean ISP next week. It would with Melbourne. Heyzuss spare me what chance have we tomorrow night?


Good post Bruce.

One of your best.

Cold hard facts.

Harris’ performance is the most shocking for me. If he was sick he shouldn’t have played. On the coaching staff. If he was just being lazy, then we have a bigger problem...

What about that plodder and penalty magnet Blair?
 

Swanley

1st Grade Fringe
Apr 13, 2012
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Tonbridge, Kent, UK
Good post Bruce.

One of your best.

Cold hard facts.

Harris’ performance is the most shocking for me. If he was sick he shouldn’t have played. On the coaching staff. If he was just being lazy, then we have a bigger problem...

What about that plodder and penalty magnet Blair?
Tohu has been down all year, I wonder if he's injured or misses Johnson..
 
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