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Inruin

Inruin

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why the fuck cant we move Kata to the wing? stingie cu** never passes anyway
because he is one of the better if not the best centre we currently have.

end of story
 
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Sup42

Sup42

Just finished the rankings for this week, and it hit me how big a test this is match is going to be for us. A win against a well placed Canberra team on the basis of solid foundations will do so much for our players' headspace. Should we win, I think man management is going to be a key part of any success this year - without taking the piss, most of our players aren't used to consistent winning, and I'd hate to see it stuff things up with ego issues.
And that is why Kearney made a point of telling his players they were just OK against the Eels, because you are bang on brother.

You watch Foran slap players hard on the back when they run hard or make a great tackle, then watch him low key celebrate trys.

We need someone like Foran next year to lead this team on celebrating guts over show off shyte.
 
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Sup42

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because he is one of the better if not the best centre we currently have.

end of story
I think we will see CNK challenge Kata for that spot before season ends unless Kata starts passing.

I don't think that time is now but Form and Kearney will be dialoguing about the left edge issues....how could they not, Sol not passing will come up in that ongoing review stuff.

Forans used to working with people like Lyon, Whare, SKD, Matai, Jennings.

Foran has only been used to controlling a left edge with world class ball movement centers.

Wot Foran says goes.

Sols gotta pass...or Foz is Gona say 'setting up to go to Sol is a waste .....I've been telling him to pass and. He's killed our processes ...get me another Center partner...so we can run this play and that"
 
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wallacenz

wallacenz

Just noticed Warriors have least injuries of any team in the comp, if they are going to clock up a string of wins then now is the time
 
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Inruin

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I think we will see CNK challenge Kata for that spot before season ends unless Kata starts passing.

I don't think that time is now but Form and Kearney will be dialoguing about the left edge issues....how could they not, Sol not passing will come up in that ongoing review stuff.

Forans used to working with people like Lyon, Whare, SKD, Matai, Jennings.

Foran has only been used to controlling a left edge with world class ball movement centers.

Wot Foran says goes.

Sols gotta pass...or Foz is Gona say 'setting up to go to Sol is a waste .....I've been telling him to pass and. He's killed our processes ....we can't go above the line Moons....get me another Center partner...so we can run this play and that"
happy to take that one to the bookie, if you had and NZW$ left :)
 
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Defence

Wot Foran says goes.

Sols gotta pass...or Foz is Gona say 'setting up to go to Sol is a waste .....I've been telling him to pass and. He's killed our processes ....we can't go above the line Moons....get me another Center partner...so we can run this play and that"

Wouldnt be the first time.
Benji never did play another game for the kiwis....
 
Inruin

Inruin

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only a hundred I think.
I don't mind losing either.

Your confidence is noted.

You are probably right.
probably? Pfft......

you are practically on the NZWarriors equivalent of social welfare. I would hate to take advantage of those less fortunate.

how about a gentlemans wager?
 
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Gizzyfan

Gizzyfan

I think sometimes we can over rate oppositions. The Raiders look very good, but are 3-3 like us. They are higher on the table due to points differential, and deserve to be.

My point is that I remember we thought the same last year and lost in golden point. We have improved a lot this year with Foran and Gavet leading the way in their direct play. I also think we have a lot more improvement in us than the Raiders, if we continue our upward trend. Keeping concentration and structure should be easier away, us against the world scenario. We haven't come close to seeing our backline flourish. Now the attention has shifted to Foran, Roger Tuivasa-Sheck and Shaun Johnson can maybe get some room. Shaun Johnson has a history of ripping the Raiders apart.

The play last week that gives me most hope for the future was Roger Tuivasa-Sheck and Fusitua stopping Radraga in the corner. I doubt that would have happened last year. This is a tough ask to win this one, however it starts 0-0.
 
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Sup42

Sup42

I think sometimes we can over rate oppositions. The Raiders look very good, but are 3-3 like us. They are higher on the table due to points differential, and deserve to be.

My point is that I remember we thought the same last year and lost in golden point. We have improved a lot this year with Foran and Gavet leading the way in their direct play. I also think we have a lot more improvement in us than the Raiders, if we continue our upward trend. Keeping concentration and structure should be easier away, us against the world scenario. We haven't come close to seeing our backline flourish. Now the attention has shifted to Foran, Roger Tuivasa-Sheck and Shaun Johnson can maybe get some room. Shaun Johnson has a history of ripping the Raiders apart.

The play last week that gives me most hope for the future was Roger Tuivasa-Sheck and Fusitua stopping Radraga in the corner. I doubt that would have happened last year. This is a tough ask to win this one, however it starts 0-0.
Nice Post.
Yeah the tackle in the corner is the play of the year for the Warriors.

You're right about us going in better placed than most would think.

Thanks to Kearneys game plan we are leading the NRL in possession.

That sees the Warriors with better running meters this season than the Raiders and their big pack.

Surprising but true.

We concede more penalties than them 7-4 per game, that's unlikely to change over there, the Raiders are the most disciplined side in the league.

Both teams are high on the completion stats. We make 11 errors versus their 10 per game which puts both teams close to best in the NRL.

Had we not had that cluster truck of a game where we blew out all our good completion averages, we would be sitting on a par with the like of the Broncos stats for ball in hand.

Defence as we all know is our let down.

We are one of the worst in the NRL.

That ten point Eels total is the the key to the Warriors winning the NRL.

They have to keep that up....everything else is excellent.

Kearney is doing an amazing job where it matters, changing our stats, making the Warriors one of the most consistent sides in the comp in key areas where previously they sucked.

Shame Forans only here for a year, still...we could win this comp this season with luck around injury.
 
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Mr Brownstone

You can only play what's in front of you however 120 minutes of decent football against below average opposition has me scoring us at about a 4 out of 10. If we are competitive away from home against the Raiders and Storm then that will be great however we could still very easily be 3-5 going into further tough games against the Roosters and Panthers. Fuck I hope I'm wrong in my pessimism however I'm finding it very difficult to shake.
 
brightman

brightman

Kearney is doing an amazing job where it matters, changing our stats, making the Warriors one of the most consistent sides in the comp in key areas where previously they sucked.
It's the one thing Kearney has always espoused, to play the australian model of footy. Defence with simple structure ball in hand to achieve greater possession which leads to more advantagous opportunities to score, he did it with the Kiwis and now it's Warriors time.

This is why we wanted SK as head coach of the Warriors..
 
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Sup42

Sup42

You can only play what's in front of you however 120 minutes of decent football against below average opposition has me scoring us at about a 4 out of 10. If we are competitive away from home against the Raiders and Storm then that will be great however we could still very easily be 3-5 going into further tough games against the Roosters and Panthers. Fuck I hope I'm wrong in my pessimism however I'm finding it very difficult to shake.
Who can blame you.

We have been conditioned by shit.

One injury to the big four and its all over rover anyway.

Lose Mannering....its gorne.

If you look at this season....on form...we go into none of these games as favorites.

I didn't have us favorites V the Eels.

The knights on form, and the Tigers, are the only clubs you could sensibly give a favorites tag to the Warriors.

An Injury decimated Titans, a fullback less Eels....competed easily with our lot.

So yeah a red hot Canberra at away....and all those other bastards are better.

Our biggest strength is we are getting better, but every week is gonna feel like the step up has arrived too soon.

Quite honestly we look like a round one NRL side finding its feet ( did anyone see Lisone buckled over hands on knees, Ligi Sao the same....these are brief impact forwards ffs) while coach sticks with Gubb and James Gavet coz they go and go.

People make breaks in the clear, and there are still plenty of occasions no ones in support (Roger Tuivasa-Sheck last week).

We still have retardo ends to sets....

We have only had one good game on D (you could say glass half full that since it was our last game we have changed something).

These sides we are about to go don't look like round one sides, they're five rounds better.

That's reality.

The good news, is we are steadily getting better, and we aren't under much pressure.

I know its cliche......I know its the Warriors.....but we have so much improvement in us.....there is the slow starters thing.....and there is the trying harder thing.....and our class on paper...I have to keep reminding myself we have never seen the Four spine stars all together with the team starting to click.

If I'm right.....we probably lose this week....upset the Storm in an Anzac test match type Warrior typical fashion...

That gives us 4-4

We kill the Roosters at home because our combinations aren't round one shit anymore.....5-4 top eight.....thereafter we realise we can beat all of them....play like it.

Let's see how that plays out....but I said in the preseason if the super four are fit + Mannering.....the Warriors under Kearney will be horrible till Foran completes two games...
then they will storm the eight and wipe everyone.
It's the one thing Kearney has always espoused, to play the australian model of footy. Defence with simple structure ball in hand to achieve greater possession which leads to more advantagous opportunities to score, he did it with the Kiwis and now it's Warriors time.

This is why we wanted SK as head coach of the Warriors..
You and I and a few others have stood by Kearney because we probably have a respect for history and what he changed in a generation after a century of failures.

Where Kearney pisses people off is he don't pick fantasy teams....he don't pick the most talented....he doesn't pick on the impulse of form.

He talks like a moron.

He picks anyone who does what he says...end of.
 
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MurrayTD

MurrayTD

Canberra at home, is there a harder venue in the comp currently? For me, no. The Viking clap, the horn blown by a Raiders legend, worth 6 points already? Probably.
Wests showed for 35 minutes they can be shut down, Canberra then showed us how it looks when this isn't applied for a full 80 minutes.
Across the park Canberra stinks of danger, backed up by an intimidating go forward monster pack, great direction from Hodgson and hungry outside backs seeking quick play the balls around tired defenders. Canberra, you would have to say at home will get 4 tries regardless of defensive excellence.
Are we up to the bare minimum mistakes for 80 minutes, with the ability to score 30 points at home to match Canberra's freakish attack? Wouldn't put my mortgage on it.
There is a bigger picture here, a great opportunity with a realistic loss but show we will not capitulate against a rolling juggernaut and stick to a game plan regardless of freaky talent. Unpredictadle talent like Canberra's under must win pressure will traditionally find it harder to maintain in finals footy, just seems to be that way.
Whereas structure adhered to during the season will absolutely pay dividends during finals footy.( yes we can play finals footy)
We have the ability to front up and cause an upset, but an upset it would be.
Very excited nonetheless as this looms as a pivotal showing in our growth.
 
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snake77

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Just noticed Warriors have least injuries of any team in the comp, if they are going to clock up a string of wins then now is the time
A nice change from the last few years where trying to get the same side on the park 2-3 weeks in a row was close to impossible. Maybe our luck is about to change.
 
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gREVUS

gREVUS

Long live the Rainbows and Butterflies
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Who can blame you.

We have been conditioned by shit.

One injury to the big four and its all over rover anyway.

Lose Mannering....its gorne.

If you look at this season....on form...we go into none of these games as favorites.

I didn't have us favorites V the Eels.

The knights on form, and the Tigers, are the only clubs you could sensibly give a favorites tag to the Warriors.

An Injury decimated Titans, a fullback less Eels....competed easily with our lot.

So yeah a red hot Canberra at away....and all those other bastards are better.

Our biggest strength is we are getting better, but every week is gonna feel like the step up has arrived too soon.

Quite honestly we look like a round one NRL side finding its feet ( did anyone see Lisone buckled over hands on knees, Ligi Sao the same....these are brief impact forwards ffs) while coach sticks with Gubb and James Gavet coz they go and go.

People make breaks in the clear, and there are still plenty of occasions no ones in support (Roger Tuivasa-Sheck last week).

We still have retardo ends to sets....

We have only had one good game on D (you could say glass half full that since it was our last game we have changed something).

These sides we are about to go don't look like round one sides, they're five rounds better.

That's reality.

The good news, is we are steadily getting better, and we aren't under much pressure.

I know its cliche......I know its the Warriors.....but we have so much improvement in us.....there is the slow starters thing.....and there is the trying harder thing.....and our class on paper...I have to keep reminding myself we have never seen the Four spine stars all together with the team starting to click.

If I'm right.....we probably lose this week....upset the Storm in an Anzac test match type Warrior typical fashion...

That gives us 4-4

We kill the Roosters at home because our combinations aren't round one shit anymore.....5-4 top eight.....thereafter we realise we can beat all of them....play like it.

Let's see how that plays out....but I said in the preseason if the super four are fit + Mannering.....the Warriors under Kearney will be horrible till Foran completes two games...
then they will storm the eight and wipe everyone.

You and I and a few others have stood by Kearney because we probably have a respect for history and what he changed in a generation after a century of failures.

Where Kearney pisses people off is he don't pick fantasy teams....he don't pick the most talented....he doesn't pick on the impulse of form.

He talks like a moron.

He picks anyone who does what he says...end of.
nice assesment but i dont agree about Mannering. Its reliance on his super tackling that has lead to a forward pack like they have had in the past. This year SK is spelling him, while a good player he is not irreplaceable anymore.

I see it like Manu. still the best attacking winger we have, but Fusitua on the other side is looking more rounded (even if he is a center/or not). Mannering has been one dimensional for so long that he is competently replaced by more rounded players.

Where i worry is Foran and Roger Tuivasa-Sheck. Shaun Johnson we could live without, temporarily. Luke we could live without temporarily. But Roger Tuivasa-Sheck is worlds apart from any fullback since probably Kevin Locke pre that bit where he ran into the post. And Foran with a 2/2 is definitely part of the missing ingredient.

I actually think given 5-6 more games under Foran and the team will play to 'the plan' and losing him for a game or 2 wont kill them.
 
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Sup42

Sup42

Canberra at home, is there a harder venue in the comp currently? For me no. The Viking clap, the horn blown by a Raiders legend, worth 6 points already? Probably.
Wests showed for 35 minutes they can be shut down, Canberra then showed us how it looks when this isn't applied for a full 80 minutes.
Across the park Canberra stinks of danger, backed up by an intimidating go forward monster pack, great direction from Hodgson and hungry outside backs seeking quick play the balls around tired defenders. Canberra, you would have to say will get 4 tries regardless of defensive excellence.
Are we up to the bare minimum mistakes for 80 minutes, with the ability to score 30 points to match Canberra's freakish attack? Wouldn't put my mortgage on it.
There is a bigger picture here, a great opportunity with a realistic loss but show we will not capitulate against a rolling juggernaut and stick to a game plan regardless of freaky talent. Unpredictadle talent like Canberra's under must win pressure will traditionally find it harder to maintain in finals footy, just seems to be that way.
Whereas structure adhered to during the season will absolutely pay dividends during finals footy.( yes we can play finals footy)
We have the ability to front up and cause an upset, but an upset it will be.
Very excited nonetheless as this looms as a pivotal showing in our growth.
I would add that Canberra are hard to earn a penalty against at home (lowest in the league).

Great run down.

Hurrell had his uses in these ones, Shaun Johnson would use him to destroy Crocker.

Ayshford....hmm.....

The one thing Canberra and the rest of the NRL have not seen, is a Warriors side that clicks on attack.

I hope it is this weekend, because we could out shoot them if all those opportunities we miss came together.....the scoreline could be in the forties lol true story.

Personally I hope our boys deliver Kearney's style and the Raiders can't score more than once a half.....that would be like the Kiwis Vs Australia.
 
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Aman

Aman

I have the worst feeling that Foran is gonna get injured. Why cant he play like a gun, never get injured and sign a 3 year deal with the warriors? Am I asking too much? Cmon league gods give us a fucking break!!
 
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