General New Zealand Politics

If there was an election today, who would you vote for?

  • National

    Votes: 5 9.6%
  • Labour

    Votes: 19 36.5%
  • Greens

    Votes: 6 11.5%
  • NZ First

    Votes: 1 1.9%
  • Act

    Votes: 10 19.2%
  • New Conservative Party

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Other

    Votes: 1 1.9%
  • None of then

    Votes: 10 19.2%

  • Total voters
    52

Dixpat

All in the Brown stuff!
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Feb 3, 2014
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Miket12

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Apr 20, 2012
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The best thing National could do would be to cut of all the diseased and dead wood in both the party and in their MP's before they infect and kill of the whole tree. Whether they have the will to do it, is a completely different thing.
 

Noitall

1st Grade Fringe
Aug 21, 2019
2,326
The best thing National could do would be to cut of all the diseased and dead wood in both the party and in their MP's before they infect and kill of the whole tree. Whether they have the will to do it, is a completely different thing.
It was widely speculated Goodfellow was on his way out, then gets reappointed and rumours of a leadership challenge recently would indicate the president of the party and the leader are probably saving each other’s jobs.
 

Miket12

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Apr 20, 2012
10,370
It was widely speculated Goodfellow was on his way out, then gets reappointed and rumours of a leadership challenge recently would indicate the president of the party and the leader are probably saving each other’s jobs.
It seems like Goodfellow is very good at raising money.... but not much else.
 

bruce

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Sep 1, 2015
19,462
The best thing National could do would be to cut of all the diseased and dead wood in both the party and in their MP's before they infect and kill of the whole tree. Whether they have the will to do it, is a completely different thing.
She is Bill Ralston's wife.

Giving that interview would have been gut wrenching. She is a pro.

IMO National is just like the GOP in Merka...too far gone.

That is scary, both in Merka and here. Cos it means that moderate people (to the right of centre that is) don't have a home.

Maybe it means that there are now too many people on the wrong side the economic middle ground.
 

wizards rage

1st Grade Fringe
Apr 18, 2016
4,503
Tauranga
National self destructing again.

National was the most popular party under English in 2017… Winston goes with Labour and English gets the chop - self destruction.

National was higher in the polls under Bridges, then Covid struck and Labour skyrocketed with all the Covid press… Bridges gets the chop - National self destruct.

National and Act almost level again in polls, Covid comes back and Collins head is on the chopping blocks. Self destruction is a theme.

3 extra ordinary events outside Nationals control and they use it as an excuse to ‘throw the baby out with the bath water’ crumbling a little lower each time 🤣
 

dean

1st Grade Fringe
Mar 13, 2016
1,257
The best thing National could do would be to cut of all the diseased and dead wood in both the party and in their MP's before they infect and kill of the whole tree. Whether they have the will to do it, is a completely different thing.
There would be bugger all left. Needs way more younger talented people more liberal than conservative.
 

dean

1st Grade Fringe
Mar 13, 2016
1,257
She is Bill Ralston's wife.

Giving that interview would have been gut wrenching. She is a pro.

IMO National is just like the GOP in Merka...too far gone.

That is scary, both in Merka and here. Cos it means that moderate people (to the right of centre that is) don't have a home.

Maybe it means that there are now too many people on the wrong side the economic middle ground.
That is a real split in the party, staunch followers had a gutsful. This would have been the last resort, can't do it internally. How Collins can associate with Slater and think it wont be seen as negative by supporters is crazy as well.
 

Noitall

1st Grade Fringe
Aug 21, 2019
2,326
That is a real split in the party, staunch followers had a gutsful. This would have been the last resort, can't do it internally. How Collins can associate with Slater and think it wont be seen as negative by supporters is crazy as well.
I see her job now as untenable, the constant feedback is negative and she’s doing damage now. Reports of a clash between Bridges and a youth party member by link over conversion therapy suggests that there’s multiple beliefs among issues in the party. As you say to drag us back to the scummy politics we saw when Slater was around the party shows just how out of touch she is.
 

Inruin

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May 19, 2012
9,861
Auckland
I see her job now as untenable, the constant feedback is negative and she’s doing damage now. Reports of a clash between Bridges and a youth party member by link over conversion therapy suggests that there’s multiple beliefs among issues in the party. As you say to drag us back to the scummy politics we saw when Slater was around the party shows just how out of touch she is.
They missed the chance to turn things around by not voting out Goodfellow.
 

Noitall

1st Grade Fringe
Aug 21, 2019
2,326

Inruin

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May 19, 2012
9,861
Auckland
I don’t think she can help herself from the attitude she displays, and I think the media now know how to make her bite. She would be an absolute disaster with some power.
I think if they had rolled Goodfellow, attracted some new blood and Chris Luxon took over the leadership 12 months out from the election, they may have had a chance.
 

wizards rage

1st Grade Fringe
Apr 18, 2016
4,503
Tauranga

It can’t be long before the knives come out
‘The biggest insight is the enormous gender divide: the Centre-Left (Labour/Greens) are 42 per cent ahead with women but 7 per cent behind with men,” Williams wrote.

I’ve heard a few times that woman hate Collins.
 

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