AlexM

AlexM

It‘s such a well made point, and I don’t think it’s a maybe, good sides absolutely understand this which is why there are always players moving up and numbers around the ball on attack.
Its very much like a professional kitchen imo.
Bellamy's like the Gordon ramsey who'll tear the arse out of anyone for a slighty too rare Steak when he wanted a slightly less rare steak....
Standards and being able to uphold them from the get go... success builds success .. the more your preoared to let slide the more will
 
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AlexM

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Bellamy's been lucky in the fact that he inherited a successfull team and has been ruthless and motivated enough to uphold the standards of that 3 sometimes 2 Michelin starred nrl team.
 
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Leon Black

Leon Black

I’ve been wrong about coach Brown, guy is a genius. Put his finger on our poor performances, need to catch the ball. Game plan will see us rocket toward the top 4.

Sack him, seriously guy is a dud. Need a coach who won’t be clicky with players. Todd was a disciplinarian, ditto Cleary and Anderson.

Toovey, Flanagan, anyone, wouldn’t stand the appalling execution of the is team week in week out. Why prolong the pain. George came out with big statement this week on improvement.

Talk the talk, if efforts are the same pack your shit up and walk!

 
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Its very much like a professional kitchen imo.
Bellamy's like the Gordon ramsey who'll tear the arse out of anyone for a slighty too rare Steak when he wanted a slightly less rare steak....
Standards and being able to uphold them from the get go... success builds success .. the more your preoared to let slide the more will
I heard Mannering make a similar point on Fonzies pod, obviously without the flowery language lol. ‘Success starts from the top and is driven down from there’, okay, nothing we haven’t heard before, but as I understand it things would happen around the front office that would directly impact players on gameday, well structured clubs are able to seperate their players from all the white noise, I found that to be a fundamental failure by the club.

I think he was referring to an example of standards there but also more broadly across the club as a whole. Sounded pretty blown away when he went down to Melbourne but thats a gap almost every other side in the Nrl is trying to bridge.
 
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Wellington Taniwha

Wellington Taniwha

We havnt been able to unlock Walsh yet either, that could make all the difference if he can find some attacking spark. I may be wrong but I feel like Shaun Johnson is overpaying his hand and trying to outplay Walsh.

Just been watching Shaun's passing over the last few weeks and feel like he must see what Walsh can do and is trying to do that himself? Again just an observation not accurate at all. Would love Shaun to bring Walsh into the game more.
They haven’t clicked yet. All the kicking is on Johnson and his high kicking game has never been as good as Walsh’s. Asi hardly had the ball last week - Walsh should be first/second reeiver more
 
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Cces

Cces

Bellamy's been lucky in the fact that he inherited a successfull team and has been ruthless and motivated enough to uphold the standards of that 3 sometimes 2 Michelin starred nrl team.
Bellamy inherited a 10th place team. So did Nathan Brown...
The 2 clubs are miles apart but to suggest luck played any significant part in Bellamy's success is a stretch
 
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Cces

Cces

Damn when was the last time we put more than 30 points on in a winning game?
A couple of close victories over the Raiders & Tigers last season where we hit 30. Need to look back to Round 16 2020 for a game we scored 30 & won handsomely (30-6 over the Knights) but we did also score 40 in a convincing 12 point win over Manly to finish 2020
 
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BeastMode

BeastMode

Paying SK & NB

The irony in all this is 2 assistant coaches getting 2 head coaching salaries…. Mark Robinson’s head must be spinning ..

Imagine if you had Brown + SK as assistants and a real Head coach like WB or CB….
 
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kenny44

kenny44

Chucking this in here because Justin Morgan is going to cost Nathan Brown his job if he isn't replaced.

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Justin Morgan's job should be on the line, not Browns (especially when there is no obvious replacement).

Below are the last 4 years of his defensive coaching tenure and our average points conceded per game.

Premiership winning teams average between 10-14 points conceded per game.

Average Points Conceded Per Game
2022: 26.3
2021: 26
2020: 22.9
2019: 23.9

How this guy is still our defensive coach when we have had some of the worst defence in the game for the last 4 years is mind boggling.

You just need to look at how Todd Payten has turned the Cowboys around to see that it's all about defence. They've gone from having one of the worst defences to one of the best (for the season to date at least) in one off season.

You can't win a competition by conceding 20, 30, 40, 50 points a game. It will never happen.

Stop the opposition from scoring and you'll never lose a game. Simple.
 
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Juno

Chucking this in here because Justin Morgan is going to cost Nathan Brown his job if he isn't replaced.

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Justin Morgan's job should be on the line, not Browns (especially when there is no obvious replacement).

Below are the last 4 years of his defensive coaching tenure and our average points conceded per game.

Premiership winning teams average between 10-14 points conceded per game.

Average Points Conceded Per Game
2022: 26.3
2021: 26
2020: 22.9
2019: 23.9

How this guy is still our defensive coach when we have had some of the worst defence in the game for the last 4 years is mind boggling.

You just need to look at how Todd Payten has turned the Cowboys around to see that it's all about defence. They've gone from having one of the worst defences to one of the best (for the season to date at least) in one off season.

You can't win a competition by conceding 20, 30, 40, 50 points a game. It will never happen.

Stop the opposition from scoring and you'll never lose a game. Simple.
Simple is as simple does...what if the coach has other ideas? What if assistant coaches don't have a say at the end of the day?
 
kenny44

kenny44

Simple is as simple does...what if the coach has other ideas? What if assistant coaches don't have a say at the end of the day?

I know what you're saying, but we can only take things on face value.

If that is the case and Brown is overruling Morgan, then that is absolutely on Nathan. I just don't see the point in having Morgan involved and in the box if he's not being used for his supposed expertise.
 
BeastMode

BeastMode

Chucking this in here because Justin Morgan is going to cost Nathan Brown his job if he isn't replaced.

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Justin Morgan's job should be on the line, not Browns (especially when there is no obvious replacement).

Below are the last 4 years of his defensive coaching tenure and our average points conceded per game.

Premiership winning teams average between 10-14 points conceded per game.

Average Points Conceded Per Game
2022: 26.3
2021: 26
2020: 22.9
2019: 23.9

How this guy is still our defensive coach when we have had some of the worst defence in the game for the last 4 years is mind boggling.

You just need to look at how Todd Payten has turned the Cowboys around to see that it's all about defence. They've gone from having one of the worst defences to one of the best (for the season to date at least) in one off season.

You can't win a competition by conceding 20, 30, 40, 50 points a game. It will never happen.

Stop the opposition from scoring and you'll never lose a game. Simple.

A large part of defense is also attitude, the great Simon Mannering also said that on Fonzies podcast.

Assuming Justin is a defensive genius, is it his job to get the players to like defending with the right attitude or is it the head coach?
 
kenny44

kenny44

A large part of defense is also attitude, the great Simon Mannering also said that on Fonzies podcast.

Assuming Justin is a defensive genius, is it his job to get the players to like defending with the right attitude or is it the head coach?

The players are responsible for attitude.

It's really hard to coach it. Maybe you can in certain people who need a reality check but at this level of sport it's either there or not.
 
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Tim burgess

The players are responsible for attitude.

It's really hard to coach it. Maybe you can in certain people who need a reality check but at this level of sport it's either there or not.
Attitude has to come from the individual. Like in any work place.
 

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