Internationals My concerns ahead of tomorrow night

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MiXmasterreece_old

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I have a couple of concerns heading into tomorrows night game
1. Benji's shoulder
2. Gasnier running at Toopi
3. What happens if Benji goes off and Faimu gets a breather? I wouldnt be happy with Louie coming out of Dummy HALF
4. A fired up Aussie team coming out to save face by putting us to the sword
5. Tame Tuopu, i have real concerns this guy is gonna get peppered on his wing and Im not 100% sure he will be able to handle it
6. The apparent lack of a long distance kicking game
 

Kiwi League_old

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My 5 concerns as follows:
1 / Andrew Johns
2 / Andrew Johns
3 / Darren Lockyer
4 / Andrew Johns & Darren Lockyer
5 / See above
 

missing teeth_old

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If Stacey was palying i would be alot happier.
 

AliN_old

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If is a big word and doesn't come into the equation regarding players that aren't there.

Everyone's been focusing on the inclusion of KHunt at fullback.
There are 16 other top quality players in the Roos side who would dearly love to strike revenge at the 24-0 drumming last year

Injury concerns to Marshall are all that worry me. SBW survived ok for the majority of the game against us.

The only concerns the Aussies should have is the passion the Kiwis have for the jersey. I hope Ruben is there to lead the haka.
 

Kiwi League_old

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Roos awestruck by rare pair
By Dan Koch and Brent Read
May 4, 2006

NOT many halves have been able to distract Petero Civoniceva, but the in-form Test prop concedes the sight of Darren Lockyer and Andrew Johns together on the training track stopped him dead.

"I was just awestruck," Civoniceva said.

"The forwards had just finished their work and we were walking over and Joey and Locky were there throwing these 20m cut-out passes left and right, changing angles, hitting different runners I hadn't even seen. I haven't seen anything like that on a training paddock.

"It's pretty special having those two guys fit and firing in the same team. In my mind they are pretty clearly the two best players of this generation."

It has been a rare sight in recent years to see the two champions working side-by-side at 100 percent.

Since Lockyer's switch from fullback to five-eighth, the pair have played just two Tests together. Both were in last year's Tri-Nations. The partnership was billed as the finest in the game's history but fizzled as Johns struggled with a knee injury.

While some have questioned whether the game's two most influential playmakers can gel with a meagre five-day build-up, Civoniceva was in no doubt what fans should expect.

"Just watching those two work at training and having seen, up close, what they can do on the field, I know they are capable of absolutely anything come Friday," he said.

"I guess it is up to the forwards to give them a base to work from but the thing about those two is they only need a sniff and they look after the rest.

"I know I would rather be on their side than be against them and be trying to figure a way to stop them both."
Coach Ricky Stuart and forward Willie Mason were equally effusive.

Stuart, a former halfback, worked with Johns at State of Origin level but this week has been the first time he has been involved with Lockyer.

The pair had rarely spoken before a recent meeting in Sydney, where they discussed Lockyer's role in tomorrow night's Test at Suncorp Stadium.

"I'm just really enjoying working with the both of them," Stuart said.

"They're just at an elite level. I really enjoy working with them, just the experience and what they do with the football."

Like Civoniceva, Mason was taken aback by what he saw at training.

"They were throwing the long balls and hitting blokes on the chest," Mason said.

"I was just in awe."

After arriving in Brisbane with the rest of the squad, a relaxed-looking Johns described working with Lockyer as a dream.

"It's great being on Locky's side for a change and not be trying to figure a way to shut him down," Johns said. "We have trained really well together so far. He just always seems to be in the right spot at the right time.

"We have talked a lot about how we are going to run things on Friday and I am just really looking forward to getting out there and, hopefully, putting it all together."

The halfback dismissed the suggestion that the short preparation would reduce the game to a forward slog, saying the two sides were loaded with attacking players.

"You only have to look at the backlines and backrows in each team to realise it will be a pretty fast and attacking game," Johns said. "The conditions up here at the moment are conducive to attacking football and with the talent in both teams, I think the crowd will see a pretty entertaining match."

However, Johns wasn't sure what sort of reception he would receive from the Queensland crowd in what will be his final appearance for Australia.

The Newcastle and NSW talisman has been Queensland's enemy number one in State of Origin football.

"I'm not really sure what to expect," he said. "They normally boo me. They are pretty passionate up here. The grandmas are normally out giving me the finger, so it will be interesting."

The Australian
 

Wiki_old

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Seriously, a few long passes are nothing ...

I ain't buying that one bit.

We know they are talented but "long passing hitting them in the chest" doesn't really do it for me.

It will be an awesome match but if the Kiwis hit them hard straight away, confidence will be lost almost immediately. All it takes is a few huge hits early on and it could change the frame of mind that they come to the field with. Momentum will swing our way immensely.
 

Kiwi League_old

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Could go the other way as well, that's the flipside to that coin.
Anyway, if we don't win then I'm still hoping for a very close encounter.
A touch-up from the Aussies after all the pre-game hype , chest-beating & bluster will be extremely hard to stomach for all of us - coach / players & fans. The stakes seem to be getting higher with each passing day & it will be a long time between drinks in terms of getting our own back if we get a heavy defeat on Friday. If we are confident of putting plenty of points on the aussies then they undoubtedly have the class to do the same, if they click on the night.
 

ozbash_old

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deja vu to the tri nations final. everyone wrote us off and what happened ?

24-0 happened.

i think we have the better team, some of you guys are listening to the commentators too much.

johns used to be the best,, so did locky (at fullback) if they click tomorrow night i,ll be very surprised. we also have a reasonably handy halves combo so dont go getting blinded by the joey-locky factor, i reckon they,ll flop.

jurys out on the toopi v gasnier clash. toops flogged him last time they met and if my memory serves me correctly, we had the same coach :)

i am pretty damned sure we,ll win tomorow night, and win well.
 

AliN_old

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and remember the Tri Series final wasn't the only time we beat them last year..
 

Sinbad_old

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A good thing about long passes is that they can be intercepted !!
 

da mad maori

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Even if we lose,as long as we get points on the board would be satisfaction enough. Just imagine the "whooplah" if we are whitewashed.

Now Wiki, he is worth 10 points to us. "PLUS" !!!. Just by being on the field. So I'm praying that he gets back to full fitness.

NOw those long passes. Geez, that is some pass alright. But it has to come off. Its one thing to throw long passes in training, but will it find its mark in the real thing. Benji 's pass is pretty awesome too.
And we have that famous Sonny-Bill off loads.

But I dont think we will wander too far from the Tri-Series patterns of attack. Quick runs from around the dummy, followed by a good kick-chase.

Back to Ruben, c'mon man, plenty of kava tonite and tomorrow, right as rain.
 

sebastian_old

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NO LONG KICKERS,NO PIN POINT BOMBS,NO COMPOSURE MAN,NO DECENT HALFBACK=NO STACEY,NO WIN.
 

JonB_old

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sebastian said:
NO LONG KICKERS,NO PIN POINT BOMBS,NO COMPOSURE MAN,NO DECENT HALFBACK=NO STACEY,NO WIN.

Go forward. More desire. Tons of heart. As a team. Benji Marshall. Sonny Bill Willaims. Confidence. Speed. Skill.

You must be a half empty type of guy.
 

Kiwi League_old

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It may not be the attitude, but this test is a cross-roads in the history of international football. We win, & tests overtake origin in the aussie's priorities.
But if we lose by plenty, they will say last year really was a fluke & we will be back at square one.
 

JonB_old

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sebastian said:
I do not underestamate the finess of stacey jones.

True, but I think you right the kiwis off as if it is not worth watching.
We are lacking finess you are right but, this is a one off game not a season or a series.
If we played 3 games we might win one. Why not this one? Im feeling very excited about this game.
 

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