Internationals Kiwis World Cup Squad Named today

[edguy_old]

we have tonnes of wingers ....manu`, SKD , Perrett ,vuna , nightingale , all would be ahead of covell....hes just like halligan , goal kicker and nothing else ...
you need a winger that can score trys to beat aussie ....

 

[edguy_old]

covell didnt make the 40 man squad ?
weve lost sonny bill and roy from the 40 ....already , and most probably pritchard ...

another kiwi whos been impressing me is frasier anderson ..
hed be in my starting 13 ..

my team if picked today
1 J nightingale
2 SKD
3 Matai
4 Inu
5 manu
6 J Ropati
7 Benji
8 N Cayless
9 I Luke
10 S Rapira
11 FAnderson
12 S Mannering
13 S Sa

bench Hohaia B Matulino j lima j smith

we beat aussie in 2005 with a mobile pack , not big monsters ......thats whats id go with

 

[2big2strong_old]

Yes Fraser! He was the third person I was thinking of. He's been going great,


We're really spoilt for choice in the Second Row these days aren't we?

 

[scottyb_old]

covell didnt make the 40 man squad ?
weve lost sonny bill and roy from the 40 ....already , and most probably pritchard ...

another kiwi whos been impressing me is frasier anderson ..
hed be in my starting 13 ..

my team if picked today
1 J nightingale
2 SKD
3 Matai
4 Inu
5 manu
6 J Ropati
7 Benji
8 N Cayless
9 I Luke
10 S Rapira
11 FAnderson
12 S Mannering
13 S Sa

bench Hohaia B Matulino j lima j smith

we beat aussie in 2005 with a mobile pack , not big monsters ......thats whats id go with

Thats a good squad but i'm pretty certain both Matai and Sa are unavailable coz they need operations as soon as season ends

 

[MiXmasterreece_old]

I'd go for a 25 man squad of : (taking into account asotasi, pritchard, matai and sbw wont be available)

1 Webb
2 SKD
3 Soliola
4 Inu
5 Vatuvai
6 Sa
7 Marshall
8 N Cayless
9 Luke
10 Lima
11 Fa'alogo
12 Mannering
13 Smith

14. Iosefa
15 Matulino
16. Rapira
17. Sika Manu

18. Hohaia
19. Perret
20. Harrison
21. Paea
22. Nightengale
23. Manu
24. Rapira
25. Hauraki

 

[2big2strong_old]

I'd go for a 25 man squad of : (taking into account asotasi, pritchard, matai and sbw wont be available)

1 Webb
2 SKD
3 Soliola
4 Inu
5 Vatuvai
6 Sa
7 Marshall
8 N Cayless
9 Luke
10 Lima
11 Fa'alogo
12 Mannering
13 Smith

14. Iosefa
15 Matulino
16. Rapira
17. Sika Manu

18. Hohaia
19. Perret
20. Harrison
21. Paea
22. Nightengale
23. Manu
24. Rapira
25. Hauraki

Apparently Sa is also unavailable.

 

[playdaball_old]

I'd go for a 25 man squad of : (taking into account asotasi, pritchard, matai and sbw wont be available)

1 Webb
2 SKD
3 Soliola
4 Inu
5 Vatuvai
6 Sa
7 Marshall
8 N Cayless
9 Luke
10 Lima
11 Fa'alogo
12 Mannering
13 Smith

14. Iosefa
15 Matulino
16. Rapira
17. Sika Manu

18. Hohaia
19. Perret
20. Harrison
21. Paea
22. Nightengale
23. Manu
24. Rapira
25. Hauraki

There are a lot of names there that are not regular 1st graders or up to top international standard i.e. - Harrison, Paea, Hauraki etc. There are probably about 3 players that I would class as world class - Webb, Inu?,Cayless? Manu?Luke? Even that is stretching it.

Question - Right now how many of the Kiwis would get into the Aaussie top 25??

 

[Joe 90_old]

Question - Right now how many of the Kiwis would get into the Aaussie top 25??

Karmichael Hunt, Michael Jennings, Jonathon Thurston, Willie Mason, Carl Webb.
Sorry, just dreaming. Realistically, probably none. Mannering would probably rank the highest. Maybe Manu. Mind you, it's always been that way.

 

[Kid-Dynamite_old]

Personally I rate Luke Covell better than Shaun Kenny Dowell and Chase Stanley.
Both those players made the squad presumably for wing, although Stanley has played centre and 2nd row.

Point of my post, Luke Covell should of made the 40 man squad!

 

[playdaball_old]

Personally I rate Luke Covell better than Shaun Kenny Dowell and Chase Stanley.
Both those players made the squad presumably for wing, although Stanley has played centre and 2nd row.

Point of my post, Luke Covell should of made the 40 man squad!

i agree he is good under the high ball and dependable.

 

[Northern_Union]

SKD has a poor set of hands which is the only thing standing between him and being rated the best winger in the game behind only Garreth Rainor in my humble opinion.

 

[Taki_old]

1. Hohaia
2. Kenny Dowall
3. Inu
4. Soliola
5. Vatuvei
6. Marshall
7. Fien
8. Cayless ?
9. Halatau
10. Blair
11. Fa?alago
12. Anderson
13. Mannering

14. Luke
15. Eastwood
16. Moi Moi
17. Lima

18. Perrett
19. Ropati
20. Roberts
21. Smith
22. Tuimavave
23. Rapira
24. Harrison

That?s with no- BMW, Asotasi, Pritchard, Matai, Sa

I think Webb is done. We?re looking at him as a bit of a saviour but he was extremely unimpressive the last time he played for us. The drop in intensity is evident there and hoping that he comes back and produces big, might be too much to hope for. Hohaia has been great at 1 for our club and Perrett can make metres like no one else on kick returns. There involvement rate is also high from the back. I also have nothing against Nightingale who is a fine (if undersized) winger but I?d rather go with Manu and SKD. I didn?t see the need for another specialist winger in the squad when I get the versatility of Ropati and Perrett. Elsewhere, I?ve taken the liberty of selecting out of favour guys like Fien (a calming influence allowing Benji to play his natural game) and Moi Moi (adds some vigor off the bench)
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[playdaball_old]

1. Perrot
2. Nightingale
3. Inu
4. Soliola
5. Vatuvei
6. Webb
7. Marshall
8. Cayless ©
9. Luke
10. Lima
11. Fa’alago
12. Smith
13. Mannering

 

[Northern_Union]

Webb will be fullback, mark my words.

 

[Kid-Dynamite_old]

1. Hohaia
2. Kenny Dowall
3. Inu
4. Soliola
5. Vatuvei
6. Marshall
7. Fien
8. Cayless ©
9. Halatau
10. Blair
11. Fa’alago
12. Anderson
13. Mannering

14. Luke
15. Eastwood
16. Moi Moi
17. Lima

Interesting team mate. Especially your 1,7 and 9.

Now you said your thoughts on why Hohaia is at fullback, and Fien at halfback. What's the story behind Issac Luke on the bench? There's no doubt in my mind he is the best hooker N.Z has....do you think the same? Or are you looking for some impact coming of the bench. i.e injecting him when the opposition fowards are tired? What's the story?

 

[Taki_old]

Interesting team mate. Especially your 1,7 and 9.

Now you said your thoughts on why Hohaia is at fullback, and Fien at halfback. What's the story behind Issac Luke on the bench? There's no doubt in my mind he is the best hooker N.Z has....do you think the same? Or are you looking for some impact coming of the bench. i.e injecting him when the opposition fowards are tired? What's the story?

Yeah mate, definitely tactical. Hold him out for a bit and then inject him in. It?s the same story with Jeff Lima there. I think that the combination of Cayless and Blair starting would work better than Lima starting and Blair coming off the bench. I see Eastwood and Moi Moi as impact players off the bench. I?d probably be hesitant to start them especially Moi Moi even if there are one or two injuries to the starting props. I?m trying to take all positions into account including the bench. It could be the difference.
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[Kid-Dynamite_old]

Yeah mate, definitely tactical. Hold him out for a bit and then inject him in. It’s the same story with Jeff Lima there. I think that the combination of Cayless and Blair starting would work better than Lima starting and Blair coming off the bench. I see Eastwood and Moi Moi as impact players off the bench. I‘d probably be hesitant to start them especially Moi Moi even if there are one or two injuries to the starting props. I’m trying to take all positions into account including the bench. It could be the difference.

Yea, I like what your doing with the whole impact of the bench thing!

I mean the Rabbitohs brought Issac of the bench last week, and as soon as he came on, the Rabbitohs looked much better. Maybe it could work, if we don't let teams get to far ahead like the Rabbitohs let the Roosters last week.

Although, I think Issac could easily play the full 80. But then as you say, it's all about the impact thing. You can't really keep the intensity for the full 80, and especially in the hooker position, where you want a fairly fresh pair of legs running around, to try and capitialize on tired markers!

Personally I would go the more traditional way. Start Issac, play him until about the 60 minute mark. Give him a 5-10 minute break, and then let him loose in the final 10-15!

 

[Viking_old]

Nobody has mentioned Sam Tagatese from the Storm, is he injured or doesn't anyone here rate him as good enough?

 

[2big2strong_old]

Nobody has mentioned Sam Tagatese from the Storm, is he injured or doesn't anyone here rate him as good enough?

for the Kiwis? He's a good prospect for the future, but he's struggling to make 1st grade let alone international. He's only managed 6 games this year, all off the bench, his last game was back in Round 13.

He is probably one of the most promising Kiwi players but I think he needs to become a 1st grade regular before he gets mentioned as an International. He's also been named in the Samoan side.

 

[edguy_old]

moi moi s worst ever games was on the kiwi tour to the uk last year ..he played without passion or any flair....totally souless.... hes not a real kiwi..he once said hed play for australia or nz , whoever picked him first ....
i heard he had put his hand up for tonga , now ?

hed never make my team .. we dont want any brad thorns , or mik hunts in our team ....