Internationals Kiwis vs Tonga 2022

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Could have been. Everyone was running and diving into the corporate boxes to get out of the way.

Someone even got in with fireworks and let them off, so security was non-existent at the game.
You always get some idiots at a night time booze fest.

Should play in the day time, I know why they don't.

Shame really, this event is so wonderful with a great reputation for good vibes.
 
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Real strange watching a new generation Kiwi side I barely recognize.

As people have noted, very professional looking team.

We could finally have the best team bar none in this unit.

Apart from Kenny B there is very little of the usual Kiwi Vanilla in this side.

Full of genuine game breakers and Apex defenders.


Been far too long since a Kiwi side man handled their opponents, genuine tough guys.
 
Damn it was great having footy back here in NZ at Mt Smart. A second helping next week.

Imagine if the Panthers game went ahead as originally planned for Mt Smart we could of had 3 weeks of games in NZ with big crowds.

I know the club got a bit prickly with not having the first game in NZ but its a bit of a blessing in disguise. The club is in a slump and would of been up for a bit against the premiers but likely would of got a similar result to last week. The Kiwis give the fans a good result and then the Warriors come back against another poor club in a winnable game.

Great atmosphere there with the Tongans turning up in their colours and their flags.
The warriors were upset because they know the tigers game is barely going to be noticed as opposed to the vibe the Tongan people bought to Auckland for this game. There is no chance the warriors have fans driving around on game day with cars decked out on warriors flags, or wearing warriors colours.
 
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Wasn’t it nice to see a number 7 do his job properly, it makes you realise how far off the pace Shaun Johnson is at the moment.
I dont disagree, it was nice.

However, u had a fullback who ran over 400 metres, a winger (Rapana) who ran for 200, the other winger and both centres all running over a 100.

A forward pack containing Bromwich, Fisher Harris, Asofa Solomona, Tapine and co with post contact metres, tackle breaks and offloads

Obviously he's playing shit but i think the current popular almost default "warriors poor form is all on Johnson" theme after this performance........it should make u realise how far off the pace the WHOLE team is at the moment.
 
Been trying to work out why the new look Kiwis look so different, and why their game is a lot more Australian in its DNA.

The main difference is the way the forwards play.

Kiwi teams of the past relied heavily on one ball playing forward like McGahan, Nikau, Kearney, Lauitiiti, Pritchard, Williams and others to create their attack through 2nd phase.

The problem of course is that it brands our game as a fifty fifty risk style of football.

And this comes about because the pack struggles with parity around the ruck, largely caused by the best international packs using line speed (Australia) or Manhandling in the wrestle (England/Brittish Lions) or being backed up by heavy contact (Tonga/Samoa).

So the first thing you notice is the Kiwi forwards dominate the ruck through their no nonsense straight running, no stupid offload (the old guard Jesse Bromwich threw one and turned over possession, his expression said it all, put the dumb old Kiwis away son).

These forwards all have footwork, so they're winning a running game, a fast and more importantly mistake free ruck.

The rest is pretty obvious, you have accurate backs, a lot of speed out wide, Dylan Brown backing up, a matching world class pair at half and hooker.

Our left edge defence will need to communicate better, their numbering is suspect.

Otherwise things look rosey, you have a Kiwi side that is sporting what could be it's finest pack ever.

The I.Q. factor of our engine room was always a weakness.

They look faster in the backrow than anything I can remember.

The passing two wide of the ruck in a shaped formation is new and very Australian, no fear of standing deep, no fear of anything.

Also our spine understands the tempo.

Fast team, fast ruck, fast reactions.

Gone are the days of Shaun Johnson and Benji standing around when NZ wins possession and there is a stoppage.

One of our biggest weaknesses has been giving opponents time to reset on every breakdown.

There is nothing special in our kicking game, just simple fast and professional league.

The test will come when they are playing from behind and being constantly frustrated.

Hopefully they learned from last night that they are built for that type of test match intensity and they can pressure anyone for long periods and give themselves every chance of exploiting cracks in the opposition....Ala Australia
 
Been trying to work out why the new look Kiwis look so different, and why their game is a lot more Australian in its DNA.

The main difference is the way the forwards play.

Kiwi teams of the past relied heavily on one ball playing forward like McGahan, Nikau, Kearney, Lauitiiti, Pritchard, Williams and others to create their attack through 2nd phase.

The problem of course is that it brands our game as a fifty fifty risk style of football.

And this comes about because the pack struggles with parity around the ruck, largely caused by the best international packs using line speed (Australia) or Manhandling in the wrestle (England/Brittish Lions) or being backed up by heavy contact (Tonga/Samoa).

So the first thing you notice is the Kiwi forwards dominate the ruck through their no nonsense straight running, no stupid offload (the old guard Jesse Bromwich threw one and turned over possession, his expression said it all, put the dumb old Kiwis away son).

These forwards all have footwork, so they're winning a running game, a fast and more importantly mistake free ruck.

The rest is pretty obvious, you have accurate backs, a lot of speed out wide, Dylan Brown backing up, a matching world class pair at half and hooker.

Our left edge defence will need to communicate better, their numbering is suspect.

Otherwise things look rosey, you have a Kiwi side that is sporting what could be it's finest pack ever.

The I.Q. factor of our engine room was always a weakness.

They look faster in the backrow than anything I can remember.

The passing two wide of the ruck in a shaped formation is new and very Australian, no fear of standing deep, no fear of anything.

Also our spine understands the tempo.

Fast team, fast ruck, fast reactions.

Gone are the days of Shaun Johnson and Benji standing around when NZ wins possession and there is a stoppage.

One of our biggest weaknesses has been giving opponents time to reset on every breakdown.

There is nothing special in our kicking game, just simple fast and professional league.

The test will come when they are playing from behind and being constantly frustrated.

Hopefully they learned from last night that they are built for that type of test match intensity and they can pressure anyone for long periods and give themselves every chance of exploiting cracks in the opposition....Ala Australia
Great to see every player knowing what their job was and doing it as a team, Like night and day compared to the Warriors.
 
Early days but Mal & the Australian selectors woildve taken notice
Yeah for sure, looking like there's is not a lot they can do about it either, the team is very composed.

Madge learned a valuable lesson too, he was right to choose players on form and not past experience.

Maumalo and the small Bromwich (he played well, useful test match grinder) were the only sentimental picks.

No retarded bench use like SK or petting ergo Tommy L. type favoritism.

Future looks bright if Madge keeps going off form and club combos.
 

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I was in the lounge at MSS surrounded by Kiwi legends.
It was a great feeling to see international RL back and the likes of Ah Koui , O’Hara, Leualai , Wiki, Tamati, Nikau all present.
When you see Sir Michael Jones there excited to see of his old heroes and getting photos , you know you’re on a good place.
 
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