Internationals KIWIS RLWC2013 Campaign

Apologies, the article I read was on yahoo.co.nz, I'm not too sure on the cut and paste stuff but the headline reads "No quarter given at Kiwis training"..pretty much just a little summary of the Kiwis upping their intensity as we head towards the semi
 
I Like the intensity I'm hearing coming from the Kiwis camp, from reading an article on stuff.co apparently Hargreaves cut Mannering in half wow! talk about drill your captain!.

We know what Tomkins brings, he has a roving commission and his try assists have been quality, we know the power of the Burgess boys and Graham but for me the key player Kiwis need to target is mr serial sledger Rangi Chase, get Sonny to smash the little hobbit, can't leave it to Isaac Luke he'd just wanna break his leg.
Sinfield is the real danger in that team, forget a bout Tomkins and Chase or any Prop, get Sinfield he is averaging over 55 touches a game and he tore us apart last time we played too..

He's a brave young lad his name must be april fool, both his arms wouldn't equal Sonny's bicep haha.
This response from JWH and Locke cracked me up, too funny..
 
Sinfield is the real danger in that team, forget a bout Tomkins and Chase or any Prop, get Sinfield he is averaging over 55 touches a game and he tore us apart last time we played too..

Yep for sure Sinfield is an experienced player, has his hands on the ball more then others and is a real threat but I still think Rangi's gonna be the architect for them in terms of attack and he knows how to get under our boys skin, a real master at the sledge game, Sinfield is more professional then to stoop to the things Chase does.
 
Rangi is bugger all IMO, the Kiwi's will be ready mentally.
Sinfield has had a hand in a massive amount of the English tries, he is definitely the onfield leader pushing their team around, whats also impressive about him is his defence, big tackle counts with few misses and not a bad kicker either..take him out of play and the English will be headless..
 
Just what we didn't need, Pritchard limps off with hamstring niggle.

League: Pritchard in doubt for World Cup semi - Sport - NZ Herald News

Frank Pritchard has thrown a scare into the Kiwis camp, hobbling off from training overnight (NZT) with a hamstring strain that puts him in doubt for Sunday morning's World Cup semifinal with England.

It comes on top of increasing doubt around winger Manu Vatuvei's involvement in the high-stakes game, with the winger still struggling with the groin strain he picked up late in the 40-4 win over Scotland last weekend.

Pritchard felt tightness in his hamstring during training on a bitterly cold London day that featured heavy rain and even hail. It wasn't known how serious the injury was, partly because he's never had a hamstring injury before, but the 30-year-old was due to go for scans later in the day.
 
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Just what we didn't need, Pritchard limps off with hamstring niggle.

League: Pritchard in doubt for World Cup semi - Sport - NZ Herald News

Frank Pritchard has thrown a scare into the Kiwis camp, hobbling off from training overnight (NZT) with a hamstring strain that puts him in doubt for Sunday morning's World Cup semifinal with England.

It comes on top of increasing doubt around winger Manu Vatuvei's involvement in the high-stakes game, with the winger still struggling with the groin strain he picked up late in the 40-4 win over Scotland last weekend.

Pritchard felt tightness in his hamstring during training on a bitterly cold London day that featured heavy rain and even hail. It wasn't known how serious the injury was, partly because he's never had a hamstring injury before, but the 30-year-old was due to go for scans later in the day.
Bugger , our best forward.

Has to be Eastwood in for Frank. Come on Kearny snap out of those Taylor ones , hasn't got a lazy eye third eye Jedi mind trick pass but he's a hard runner with some ball skills.
 
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If Pritchards out , apart from his individual dominance in our back row what does it all mean ? how would you rejig the Kiwis ?

Bare in mind we have the best Forward depth of the competition so it could have been much worse ( Foran or Luke get Injured ).

Ok so we've lost Manu and Frank from the Left , our Jab has gone from being a George Forman back you up punch to a tapping slap.

Those two players are big , they get a lot of meters , and Frank is the defacto left center in the absence of some punch on that side of the field.

The Left has looked inferior the whole tournament to the right side , especially when Pritchards not out there.

I'm assuming they Bring Taylor in for Pritchard. Whether they put Simon in Franks Boots or Taylor is an important decision.

I'm picking with the way they have used Taylor at thirteen already , and the praise he got from Iro post match for contolling the middle places him there and Mannering to the left.

It all would be a lot easier if we weren't stuck in this Elijah must play utility.

Taylor , Nghtingale , Goodwin ,

Manu , Frank , Goodwin

One of these things is not like the other , that left edge would be too small.

If it were me and I had only one suggestion that they had to use.....I'd be saying if you put Nightingale in you have to have Mannering on that side.

Or If you have to have Taylor on that left edge there Stephen Cleary.......put fooking Hoffman on that Wing.
 
I personally would do a straight swap for Alex Glenn, he is the 2nd most experienced and complete left hand second rower we have got after Frank and it means the least amount of shuffling amongst the rest of the team.

I wouldn't be opposed to bringing Eastwood in at lock and Mannering back to the right and SBW to switch to the left, this is still preferable to Elijah playing big minutes IMO.
 
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Locke v Tomkins yea buddy- excited as..

Go the Kiwi's..Smashem-Kia Kaha..
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Yes. It doesn't get any better than that aye , we couldn't have scripted a better scenario than Locke and Tomkins going head to head.
Leading into the world cup I wouldn't have imagined them picking Lock for the 24 man squad on his patchy club form.

It looked like a loser play for mine in Lockes first two outings , he was impressive against Scotland , there were electric little periods of attacking footy from him even in those earlier tests , mainly the struggling with the high ball put him behind in those games.

If Hoffman is not at Fullback and fit then this has been the only time I can remember the kiwis giving an Incumbent and a contender a genuine share of Minutes to put forward their cases.

I'd have DogZiller In My team as well , especially if Frank the Tank is out , a genuine ball playing forward.

The Kiwis want to isolate Sam Tomknis , every team does when they play England. He's already under a lot of pressure for not reaching the super freak heights of individual Try's in the ESL , English fans are demanding some of that running game against the Big Two teams.

I came across a " Sam Tomkins Needs to stand up " thread lol

Being the most expensive deal for a player in history blah blah will put pressure on him , people think of the Kiwis as an extension of the Warriors or the other way around , he's got a few mind games to navigate through.

Adding Kevin Locke to that list of Internal pressure on Tomkins is a stroke of genius. I'd be doing it , I think the Kiwis should go Locke to try to get inside Tomkins head.

We all know what Matt Elliot will be doing Sunday 0130hrs NZ time , Glued to the box LOL
 
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Kiwi fullback Kevin Locke out to show England's Sam Tomkins who's boss

KEVIN Locke has spent a lot of time thinking and talking about Sam Tomkins this year....

Tomkins has caused Locke considerable angst this year. More specifically, speculation about Tomkins' impending arrival at Mt Smart Stadium caused him grief.

It left Locke wondering where he might fit in at the Warriors, where he still has one more year left on his contract.

In fact, he's still wondering and it's one of the first things he wants to establish when he returns to New Zealand after this World Cup.

"It's been really tough," he said. "Throughout the year, it played on my mind. I never really had it explained to me and I don't know what's going on back home and what (coach) Matty Elliott and the coaching staff have in mind for me next year.

"You don't bring someone over just to challenge for a spot and not play them. I'm not that stupid. If I do everything I can to be part of that squad week in, week out, then I'm doing the right things.

"If I do that and I'm still not being picked, then I know where I stand and I know where it's leading to. I'm 24 and this is the time when you need to make decisions that are best for you. I have a family and I need to take that into account."

It's why Locke was tempted when the Warriors asked him at the end of the season if he wanted to see if he could secure something for next year.

But the window closed and he will return to the club next year.

"I have to be honest, I had a look," he said. "But it was all up in the air. When my manager told me I could get a release, I didn't know what to do.

"Matty Elliott didn't even know about it. That was the hard thing. When Matty found out about it, he called it all off and I had to accept it and move on.

"It upset me but it's done now and I'm there. I just want to focus on next year. The Warriors have been there for me from day one and I can't let this get in my way.

"Just as long as I can do everything I can next year to impress the coaches that I want to be there."

Kiwis coach Stephen Kearney rang Locke to ask him how much he wanted to be in the World Cup squad

Locke's answer came when he checked himself out of a Warriors end-of-season holiday early and returned to Auckland to train.

He had a series of solo fitness sessions before the rest of the squad joined him and it helped him earn a spot in the 24-man World Cup squad

.He was something of a surprise selection but the Kiwis wanted to take a second specialist fullback on top of Josh Hoffman.

Locke has now usurped Hoffman, and will play against England at Wembley.

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/spo...-1226765642373
 
I have a few comments to make.

I'm happy to be proven wrong and right by the selections.

Firstly I thought Kevin hadn't done enough to convince Kearney but I have a strong feeling that Kearney is trusting cleary big time in this campaign. I was happy for Locke to have the spot but I Hoffman did nothing wrong and is one of Kearneys guys. I think cleary has helped Locke get this spot and he himself has proven enough. Good luck nobby.

Left edge look

I think we're gonna obviously see less attack from the left side now that nightingale is in but I think he brings safety like no other. If frank is gone as well then I would put Alex Glenn in there to plug it up and just make it a strong defensive side. That to me means increased touches to Shaun's side which could mean more attacking raids on the right but also more errors with Shaun involved. Him sbw and Luke are gonna have to have big games if our left side has nothing but defence.

Happy to hear Kearney sees the same thing I do with kasiano instead of moa. Sam brings another look and more post contact options. It means england MUST bring 3 men in to tackle him and if he can somehow get a real quick ptb on 2 out of every 8 tackles it could mean big holes for Luke. I actually think he might score a try in this game.

As mentioned if we go all the way cleary will be the unsung hero. Bring ion Sunday!
 
I have a few comments to make.

I'm happy to be proven wrong and right by the selections.

Firstly I thought Kevin hadn't done enough to convince Kearney but I have a strong feeling that Kearney is trusting cleary big time in this campaign. I was happy for Locke to have the spot but I Hoffman did nothing wrong and is one of Kearneys guys. I think cleary has helped Locke get this spot and he himself has proven enough. Good luck nobby.
Fullback being such an important position for New Zealand , you can imagine that group of coaches wanting to make sure Kevin Locke didn't fade away back home and not be a long term option for the Kiwis.

Josh Hoffman pulled a sad over being swapped to the wing at the Broncos. I'd love to know what went down with him and Kearney when it came to picking Nightingale , perhaps nothing , perhaps a lot of club politics / conflict of interest.

From a Warriors point of view , Kevs got nothing to lose unlike his opposite lol Imagine if Kev broke Tomkins leg............
 
Fullback being such an important position for New Zealand , you can imagine that group of coaches wanting to make sure Kevin Locke didn't fade away back home and not be a long term option for the Kiwis.

Josh Hoffman pulled a sad over being swapped to the wing at the Broncos. I'd love to know what went down with him and Kearney when it came to picking Nightingale , perhaps nothing , perhaps a lot of club politics / conflict of interest.

From a Warriors point of view , Kevs got nothing to lose unlike his opposite lol Imagine if Kev broke Tomkins leg............
I would be happy if Kevin totally outplays Tomkins as he has done to Slater and Barba in the past when at his best. Hopefully that does not involve him breaking Sam's leg! :)

Locke to me is like a flawed genius. When fully fit and on form he can be incredible but he has a fair few brain explosions in him and I hope a cluster does not appear this weekend!
 
I would be happy if Kevin totally outplays Tomkins as he has done to Slater and Barba in the past when at his best. Hopefully that does not involve him breaking Sam's leg! :)

Locke to me is like a flawed genius. When fully fit and on form he can be incredible but he has a fair few brain explosions in him and I hope a cluster does not appear this weekend!
I would like to know how many games Kev has played over the last 2 years? im sure its probably around 30 odd, it seemed he was injured but more importantly lost what he had either due to injury or actually loss of ability, confidence, other teams figuring him out e.t.c i think the type of player kev is to me for him to be great the ratio of confidence to physical ability is 60/40. If he can be confident and find more form next year i have no doubt he could out do Tomkins, just stay positive Kev.